Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????

[Haggis]

If you currently rely on a class b for your employment start planning.

DRAP 2.0 will lead to PRECS 2021.  Given the Liberals love for anything military I don't see this ending well for the Class B world.

 

[brihard]

In another Liberal about-turn, Public Safety Minister Bill Blair today cut the CBSA's budget by $390M over two years. This comes after he announced $86M in funding for the CBSA and the RCMP to combat gun smuggling following the massive legally owned gun ban in May.

A few years back, CBSA saw a 17% raise in response to their officers becoming armed, so that bumped numbers quite a bit.

RCMP will probably see a total compensation increase somewhere on the order of 20% in the next year or two with unionization and the first collective being negotiated, so that will have to be taken into account too.

 

[PuckChaser]

Excited for the CAF's 1% pay increase ratified in 2023...

 

[brihard]

Excited for the CAF's 1% pay increase ratified in 2023...

PSAC just got 6.6% for 2018-2021. They’re a decent bellweather for CAF pay.

CBSA got a huge raise because they now have the substantially increased hazard and liability of being armed. RCMP will see a substantial increase because they lag vastly behind nearly all other police and way behind any comparable services, and now get to collectively bargain. CAF might see some bump from this too, knowing that RCMP and CBSA are attractive employers for many vets.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

PSAC just got 6.6% for 2018-2021. They’re a decent bellweather for CAF pay.

CBSA got a huge raise because they now have the substantially increased hazard and liability of being armed. RCMP will see a substantial increase because they lag vastly behind nearly all other police and way behind any comparable services, and now get to collectively bargain. CAF might see some bump from this too, knowing that RCMP and CBSA are attractive employers for many vets.

I just wonder where all the money is coming from?

 

[Brad Sallows]

Mostly income taxes, increasingly paid by people who receive generous raises.

0, 0, 2 looked good during the last recession, to people who got -5, 0, 0.

 

[YZT580]

Sober reminder:  Justin's father froze all civil service pay and also set a hard cap via legislation of 4,3% afterwards with no raises and no promotions.  Contract negotiations simply decided how the money in the contract would be divided up.  Legislation would keep the RCMP and all others right where they are regardless of bargaining rights.  There are probably 100 uses of the expression like father, like son in these web pages so...

 

[mariomike]

RCMP will see a substantial increase because they lag vastly behind nearly all other police and way behind any comparable services, and now get to collectively bargain.

Well deserved, and long overdue, Brihard.

 

[Remius]

DRAP 2.0 will lead to PRECS 2021.  Given the Liberals love for anything military I don't see this ending well for the Class B world.

Concur.  I expect deep cuts there but also in the PS. 

 

[Colin Parkinson]

When the piper comes calling, they won`t have a choice, even before I left in Apr 2019, senior managers I knew were quite worried about the long term funding for programs and people, the last thing they wanted was another Work Force Adjustment.

 

[ModlrMike]

Maybe the Libs are banking on losing the next election, so that they can blame any future belt tightening on the Cons being heartless b@stards.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Maybe the Libs are banking on losing the next election, so that they can blame any future belt tightening on the Cons being heartless b@stards.

That might be why they are continuing to portray the future as 'uncertain' so they can avoid picking a 'hill to die on':

Trudeau government’s fiscal ‘snapshot’ doubles down on uncertainty

According to the Oxford Dictionary, a snapshot is “a short description that gives you an idea of what something is like.” When the Trudeau government delivered its Economic and Fiscal Snapshot 2020 on Wednesday, it was anything but.

At 168 pages, the “Long-Winded Economic and Fiscal Update” might have been a more appropriate title. While lengthy in volume, it was unfortunately short on substance, particularly about the future of government finances and the government’s plans might tackle its $343 billion budget deficit. As such, this federal government continued its record of fuelling uncertainty.

In difficult times, workers, businesses, investors and entrepreneurs crave certainty, particularly with respect to government policy. With a deficit of $343 billion this year (which follows $89.1 billion in total deficits since 2015), there’s a real risk of higher taxes in the immediate future. Without a plan of how the government will deal with the state of federal finances, workers, investors, businesses and entrepreneurs are left guessing about whether taxes might be raised, and by how much. This uncertainty means that investments that might look profitable today might not be so in a near future with higher taxes. This kind of uncertainty means that workers, businesses, investors and entrepreneurs will take a wait-and-see attitude towards potential investments.

Again, this government has a record of creating policy uncertainty. Even prior to the COVID-induced recession, deficits created uncertainty about future taxes, aiding rumours of potential increases to capital gains taxes and limits on interest-deductibility for business. New subjective regulations for major projects created massive uncertainty about how and if new infrastructure projects would be approved. And earlier this year, the government’s indecisive handling of the #ShutDownCanada movement and ensuing rail blockades created yet more uncertainty, not to mention significant economic damage.

Nick Bloom, professor of economics at Stanford University, and Steven Davis, professor of economics at the University of Chicago, developed the first rigorous analytical framework for measuring the extent and impact of policy uncertainty. Data for Canada show an increasing trend of policy uncertainty over the past five years, with many periods of uncertainty eclipsing that of the 2008/09 recession. Currently, policy uncertainty is at an all-time 35-year high in Canada.

To be fair, federal Finance Minister Bill Morneau clearly understands that we live in uncertain times. During his “snapshot” speech, which to his credit was actually quite short, the minister noted that “Businesses of all sizes are still facing uncertainty.” The actual snapshot document, which mentions “uncertain” or “uncertainty” 35 times, also notes that “Businesses drastically reduced investment… in response to large revenue losses and high uncertainty.”

Unfortunately, the Trudeau government seems oblivious to how it creates policy uncertainty rather than reducing it.

The need for increased certainty is why during the during the Great Recession of 2008/09, the then-Conservative federal government produced an Update of Economic and Fiscal Projections (which by the way was only 24 pages long) and included updated forecasts for revenues, spending and the deficit for the current year and the following five-year period. Canadians could see the government had a plan to get the budget, which was $56 billion in deficit, back to near balance, and that tax increases would not be required.

Clarity and certainty are critically important, now more than ever. With its snapshot, the Trudeau government missed an opportunity to reassure workers, businesses, investors and entrepreneurs that an attack on capital through tax increases was not coming. It missed an opportunity to show it would return to budget balance, or at least close to it, without massive tax increases. And it missed an opportunity to end long-running rumours of capital gains tax increases, limits on interest-deductibility and additional taxes on stock options.

If this government is serious about Canada’s economic recovery, it would prioritize key reforms central to economic growth including a robust plan to reduce the deficit and balance the budget, improving tax competitiveness for individuals and businesses, and easing the regulatory burden to get the conditions right for investment and entrepreneurship. For our economy to thrive, for Canadians to benefit from the fruits of investment, economic activity and job creation, the government must send strong signals that it has a viable plan.

But instead, the government doubled down on its pattern of fuelling more uncertainty in this very uncertain time.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/trudeau-governments-fiscal-snapshot-doubles-down-on-uncertainty

 

[Haggis]

CBSA got a huge raise because they now have the substantially increased hazard and liability of being armed.

CBSA actually received two better-than-average raises over about ten years which appeared huge because of four years of retroactivity. Arming was only part of the reason.  Another was because the front line BSOs were pretty much the lowest paid federal law enforcement officers in Canada.  In the second contract, the front-line BSOs were well looked after but those officers above and below that classification were largely ignored. That's understandable, as the front-line BSOs make up the lion's share of the union.

TANGENT ALERT

.....knowing that RCMP and CBSA are attractive employers for many vets.

CBSA has been actively courting vets for the last few years now.  However, the number of vets actually making it through the recruiting and selection process to the CBSA College has remained pretty constant and disappointingly low.  It could be partly because vets are shying away from the CBSA once they find out that, unlike the RCMP, CBSA recruits are not hired prior to training and are not paid AND that attendance at the CBSA College is not (yet) eligible for the Education and Training Benefit though VAC.  CBSA recruits receive free room and board, an allowance of $125/week and receive their probationary letters of offer right before graduation.

TANGENT ALERT ENDS.

 

[Dale Denton]

CBSA has been actively courting vets for the last few years now.  However, the number of vets actually making it through the recruiting and selection process to the CBSA College has remained pretty constant and disappointingly low.  It could be partly because vets are shying away from the CBSA once they find out that, unlike the RCMP, CBSA recruits are not hired prior to training and are not paid AND that attendance at the CBSA College is not (yet) eligible for the Education and Training Benefit though VAC.  CBSA recruits receive free room and board, an allowance of $125/week and receive their probationary letters of offer right before graduation.

This does not work.

If the CBSA is 'aiming' at early-mid 20somethings to join straight from Uni/College, then this allowance would work in that specific demographic. If the CBSA want recruits with more life experience and maturity (a tad older generally speaking), then these policies serve to dissuade an applicant.

For ex, a late 20something applicant with a decent paying civy job, a new parent, or someone with a mortgage would be dissuaded from joining as they would suffer during the training as you can't feed a kid, pay a mortgage, or service any debt with $150/week. Unless they 'hope' you have a partner that will cover you entirely during training, or you sign up for EI.

Lower the standard (and accept all the risk that comes with it), or increase the standard of living at training (and accept the cost of doing business like police services).

 

[Remius]

The RCMP had that problem when they made Depot a non paying thing Some years ago.  They also had to absorb a lot of incidental costs.  Luckily they saw the light.  It changed sometime in 2008.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

This does not work.

If the CBSA is 'aiming' at early-mid 20somethings to join straight from Uni/College, then this allowance would work in that specific demographic. If the CBSA want recruits with more life experience and maturity (a tad older generally speaking), then these policies serve to dissuade an applicant.

For ex, a late 20something applicant with a decent paying civy job, a new parent, or someone with a mortgage would be dissuaded from joining as they would suffer during the training as you can't feed a kid, pay a mortgage, or service any debt with $150/week. Unless they 'hope' you have a partner that will cover you entirely during training, or you sign up for EI.

Lower the standard (and accept all the risk that comes with it), or increase the standard of living at training (and accept the cost of doing business like police services).

From what i seen i wonder if the senior management there wants malleable and not to bright people so they can manipulate them. The downside of that is you get officers who seem to think viewing childporn on a work computer was a good idea(they were fired, used as a case study for my management course). Not to mention borrow a boat from another federal agency and then return it without reporting the damage you did to it or offer to pay for repairs.
Now instead hire vets who have seen to many gong shows already and many know what professionalism is about and you might get a lot of push back on dumb ideas.

 

[ModlrMike]

For the win:

"Maybe if we offer Justin Trudeau a speaking fee we can convince him to testify at Finance Committee on the WE scandal. - Pierre Poilievre

 

[Jarnhamar]

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-we-charity-listed-real-estate-holdings-worth-43-7-m-in-2018

Over $40 million in real estate, wonder if that's all in Toronto.



And weird how that $19 million the WE "could" have been paid from the liberals jumped to "could be $43 million".
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-we-charity-could-have-received-up-to-435-million-minister-tells-mps/


And finally someone's tweet

This would have been to cover a second 20K students. But this makes ZERO sense. With only 40k participants, max the program could have cost was $240M (40K x $5000 in payments to students + 40M admin to WE and partners). How was the other $670M to be spent?

Classic lol

 

[Haggis]

Now instead hire vets who have seen to many gong shows already and many know what professionalism is about and you might get a lot of push back on dumb ideas.

CBSA has a significant number of vets working in the training system, many of whom are used to dealing with the type of recruits the CAF has had over the past decade or so. There are also some quite senior managers there now who are vets so things are getting better.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Good, they were highly unimpressive bunch to work with, back in the 90's. i am a bit biased as one dam near got us killed by not listening.