The Next Canadian Government

[IKnowNothing]

I would like to know how "Bouncy Castles" are a form of intimidation? Other than Trudeau and his Government, who was "actually" intimidated?
What I saw, was a bunch of whinny Ottawa Center Liberal Riding residents offended that people actually did not agree with Trudeau's policies. Add in a "Liberal" (former Ontario Liberal MPP) Mayor and you can see how Liberal vindictiveness progressed.

I'll leave that to the posters on here that live there. I can only speak 2nd hand.

Suffice to say- it seems that if one is in agreement with the cause its easy to focus on the "block party aspects" and bouncy castles.
If it were the exact same protest, but pro-Palestinian rather than anti-Trudeau I suspect the "nutjobs with manifestos," the content of said manifesto, those trying to incite violence, those prepared for violence, the act of blockading streets for weeks on end would be far more relevant in defining the movement to some.

 

[Remius]

Verified by whom? It was actually broadcast on CTV Ottawa that the Convoy actually donated food to the Mission; not tried to take food from the Mission.

I personally know one of the responding officers. Damage control by some doesn’t negate what actually happened with others

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I personally know one of the responding officers. Damage control by some doesn’t negate what actually happened with others

It should be easy to prove then, instead of depending on hearsay. Your friend should be able to identify the places, by name, that convoy people took advantage of.

 

[Remius]

It should be easy to prove then, instead of depending on hearsay. Your friend should be able to identify the places, by name, that convoy people took advantage of.

It was also well reported.

He did and I trust him. I could care less for your thoughts on it. He was there and you were at your keyboard.

I don’t care what political side people are on. Shit in my yard and you should get dealt with.

Convoy Karens, Hamas supporters blocking shopping that Jews frequent. They all need to be dealt with when they cross the line.

Simple.

 

[Furniture]

No one said they are, and that's kind of the point. The point is to apply the concept of "The right to demonstrate cannot become a licence to intimidate” - regardless of the cause. Draw the line and stick to it.

My point, which perhaps I wasn't clear on is this:

Being loud and annoying is not necessarily intentional "intimmidation", even if some individuals may find it intimidating.

Calling for the genocide of a specific group, outside a community center for that group, is intentionally being intimidating.

That is why I find the convoy comparisons silly. The people with bouncy castles and water filled jerry cans wanted to be heard, and feel "seen". The people with their faces covered calling for genocide want to scare Jews. Intent matters.

 

[George Wallace]

I personally know one of the responding officers. Damage control by some doesn’t negate what actually happened with others

I personally know an officer, who's colleagues were tasked to come up to Ottawa to assist Ottawa Police Services, and they reported back to him that they had never seen a more peaceful protest.
There were Police liaison meetings with the organizers daily. So the organizers were doing all they could to maintain relations with the authorities. Something that I doubt any other protest group has done on such a scale.
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Also remember, that Covid had already closed down many of the businesses in the downtown core. What few that were still open, did serve the protesters as well.
Trudeau and Mayor Watson did run a smear campaign in the media to demonize the protestors. Trudeau actually froze Canadians bank accounts, and confiscated the Go Fund Me money collected for the protest.
Ottawa Police Services also replaced their Police Chief during all of this. Another indication that 'politics' was being played.
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Now I am in agreement that the protest did go on for too long and the NIMBY Liberals in that Riding were upset; but protests in that part of Ottawa are normal, and can be daily, even several at a time.

 

[suffolkowner]

My point, which perhaps I wasn't clear on is this:

Being loud and annoying is not necessarily intentional "intimmidation", even if some individuals may find it intimidating.

Calling for the genocide of a specific group, outside a community center for that group, is intentionally being intimidating.

That is why I find the convoy comparisons silly. The people with bouncy castles and water filled jerry cans wanted to be heard, and feel "seen". The people with their faces covered calling for genocide want to scare Jews. Intent matters.

that would be fine for a one or two day protest. I think its prolonged existence changed the nature

 

[Furniture]

that would be fine for a one or two day protest. I think its prolonged existence changed the nature

I can see that, but again I don't think the intent was to intimidate, rather it was to inconvenience.

I can see why some would feel intimidated though, and to be fair, I wouldn't be opposed to a by-law preventing protests on residential streets.

 

[suffolkowner]

I can see that, but again I don't think the intent was to intimidate, rather it was to inconvenience.

I can see why some would feel intimidated though, and to be fair, I wouldn't be opposed to a by-law preventing protests on residential streets.

I only saw what was on TV. I wouldnt recommend anyone doing it in front of my house

 

[dimsum]

Now that is a lot of Liberal propaganda, there. The facts don't match the Liberal fiction.
The actions taken since, by the Trudeau Government, have not been anything other than vindictiveness.

I have said this before but I lived there at the time. The media under-reported, if anything.

I would like to know how "Bouncy Castles" are a form of intimidation? Other than Trudeau and his Government, who was "actually" intimidated?
What I saw, was a bunch of whinny Ottawa Center Liberal Riding residents offended that people actually did not agree with Trudeau's policies. Add in a "Liberal" (former Ontario Liberal MPP) Mayor and you can see how Liberal vindictiveness progr

So if a riding is Liberal, that means that it’s ok to do that? Not all people in that riding voted for the LPC.

My spouse was harassed for shock going to the grocery store on Bank / Somerset. One of my neighbours went outside with a decibel meter and it registered at “hearing damage” levels the second you stepped outside in that area. EMS didn’t even bother going in because they were pelted with rocks (I personally saw this). The Rideau Centre was going to open that Monday after Covid, and they had to shut again due to the convoy.

So yeah, the local people were intimidated.

 

[YZT580]

that would be fine for a one or two day protest. I think its prolonged existence changed the nature

Universities were blockaded for several months this spring over Gaza. Major arteries in Toronto were shutoff as well. The protesters chanted murderous slogans. Were any of their accounts frozen? The truckers asked for COVID laws to be relaxed so they could go back to living again. Seems to me that there is a huge discrepancy in motivation and malicious intent. Teens with signs aren't nearly as intimidating as a Kenworth and not near as loud as an air horn. Plus the libs seem to favour supporting the Palestinians. That is what made the difference

 

[Fishbone Jones]

My point, which perhaps I wasn't clear on is this:

Being loud and annoying is not necessarily intentional "intimmidation", even if some individuals may find it intimidating.

Calling for the genocide of a specific group, outside a community center for that group, is intentionally being intimidating.

That is why I find the convoy comparisons silly. The people with bouncy castles and water filled jerry cans wanted to be heard, and feel "seen". The people with their faces covered calling for genocide want to scare kill Jews. Intent matters.

FTFY

 

[suffolkowner]

Universities were blockaded for several months this spring over Gaza. Major arteries in Toronto were shutoff as well. The protesters chanted murderous slogans. Were any of their accounts frozen? The truckers asked for COVID laws to be relaxed so they could go back to living again. Seems to me that there is a huge discrepancy in motivation and malicious intent. Teens with signs aren't nearly as intimidating as a Kenworth and not near as loud as an air horn. Plus the libs seem to favour supporting the Palestinians. That is what made the difference

Universities are private property
repeating EMA fiasco seems like it would be a mistake
COVID trucking regulations was never on the table either way
cant say to the rest

 

[dimsum]

Universities were blockaded for several months this spring over Gaza. Major arteries in Toronto were shutoff as well. The protesters chanted murderous slogans. Were any of their accounts frozen? The truckers asked for COVID laws to be relaxed so they could go back to living again.

In case anyone forgot what started that whole mess, it was the truckers not being able to get to the US, nor to other provinces.

So they decided to protest Ottawa, because obviously the Canadian govt has a ton of leverage with the US CBP, who can let in people. This, again, was when the US wasn’t letting anyone in who wasn’t vaccinated.

And as a reminder, Canadian COVID rules were provincially based, not federally based. So they should have protested Toronto, Winnipeg, Victoria…which they figured out in the end.

 

[suffolkowner]

In case anyone forgot what started that whole mess, it was the truckers not being able to get to the US, nor to other provinces.

So they decided to protest Ottawa, because obviously the Canadian govt has a ton of leverage with the US CBP, who can let in people. This, again, was when the US wasn’t letting anyone in who wasn’t vaccinated.

And as a reminder, Canadian COVID rules were provincially based, not federally based. So they should have protested Toronto, Winnipeg, Victoria…which they figured out in the end.

we dont know our governments roles responsibilities and duties

 

[dimsum]

we dont know our governments roles responsibilities and duties

It wasn’t like all the websites, social media, etc didn’t have the provincial health authority’s letterhead or whatever.

But yes.

 

[mariomike]

I have said this before but I lived there at the time. The media under-reported, if anything.


So if a riding is Liberal, that means that it’s ok to do that? Not all people in that riding voted for the LPC.

My spouse was harassed for shock going to the grocery store on Bank / Somerset. One of my neighbours went outside with a decibel meter and it registered at “hearing damage” levels the second you stepped outside in that area. EMS didn’t even bother going in because they were pelted with rocks (I personally saw this). The Rideau Centre was going to open that Monday after Covid, and they had to shut again due to the convoy.

So yeah, the local people were intimidated.

On Monday, court will hear arguments in $290 million lawsuit against Freedom Convoy​

• October 25, 2024

On Monday, court will hear arguments in $290 million lawsuit against Freedom Convoy | Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms

TORONTO, ON: The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms announces that lawyers representing Chris Barber, Tamara Lich, and other Freedom Convoy participants will be in court to appeal the dismissal of an Anti-SLAPP motion in the lawsuit filed by Ottawa residents against the Freedom Convoy...

www.jccf.ca

 

[GK .Dundas]

we dont know our governments roles responsibilities and duties

Or apparently care either..

 

[brihard]

On Monday, court will hear arguments in $290 million lawsuit against Freedom Convoy​

• October 25, 2024

On Monday, court will hear arguments in $290 million lawsuit against Freedom Convoy | Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms

TORONTO, ON: The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms announces that lawyers representing Chris Barber, Tamara Lich, and other Freedom Convoy participants will be in court to appeal the dismissal of an Anti-SLAPP motion in the lawsuit filed by Ottawa residents against the Freedom Convoy...

www.jccf.ca

Blood from a stone… But it’ll be interesting. I imagine that particular legal action will be years yet before it concludes. I’m more curious about the outstanding criminal verdicts for the leadership figures.

 

[mariomike]

But it’ll be interesting.

I thought so too.