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Canadian Federal Election 44 - Sep 2021


After Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made multiple policy announcements across the pond at the COP26 climate summit in Scotland, a new poll hints at how Canadians feel about those developments.

Sixty-nine per cent of respondents to an online survey by Leger and the Association for Canadian Studies say they support Canada’s announcement at the summit that it will cap and reduce pollution from the oil and gas sector toward net zero by 2050.

Some 65 per cent of respondents also say they support the government’s new policy to stop exporting coal by 2030, a move which would end the trade abroad of about 36 million tonnes of the resource, currently 60 per cent of what the country produces.
Thankfully, most Canadians seem on board with the Prime Ministers steps to reduce emissions.
 


Thankfully, most Canadians seem on board with the Prime Ministers steps to reduce emissions.
Sixty-nine per cent of respondents to an online survey by Leger and the Association for Canadian Studies say they support Canada’s announcement at the summit that it will cap and reduce pollution from the oil and gas sector toward net zero by 2050.


Yes because online polls have no inherent biases to them :rolleyes:
 
Anyone who is slightly internet savvy knows that every interest group has a forum and people will post that poll and encourage like minded to vote. tis the way of the modern world. meanwhile big named polling companies peruse the shrinking number of landline owners that will actually not hang up on them to find out how they think. so if you want to influence government policy, own a landline.
 
Sixty-nine per cent of respondents to an online survey by Leger and the Association for Canadian Studies say they support Canada’s announcement at the summit that it will cap and reduce pollution from the oil and gas sector toward net zero by 2050.


Yes because online polls have no inherent biases to them :rolleyes:
Anyone who is slightly internet savvy knows that every interest group has a forum and people will post that poll and encourage like minded to vote. tis the way of the modern world. meanwhile big named polling companies peruse the shrinking number of landline owners that will actually not hang up on them to find out how they think. so if you want to influence government policy, own a landline.

METHODOLOGY​

This web survey was conducted from November 5 to November 7, 2021, with 1,565 Canadians and 1,006 Americans, 18 years of age or older, randomly recruited from LEO’s online panel.

For comparison, a probability sample of 1,565 respondents would have a margin of error of ±2.48%, 19 times out of 20, while a probability sample of 1,006 would have a margin of error of ±3.09%, 19 times out of 20.
 

METHODOLOGY​

This web survey was conducted from November 5 to November 7, 2021, with 1,565 Canadians and 1,006 Americans, 18 years of age or older, randomly recruited from LEO’s online panel.
From their online panel
For comparison, a probability sample of 1,565 respondents would have a margin of error of ±2.48%, 19 times out of 20, while a probability sample of 1,006 would have a margin of error of ±3.09%, 19 times out of 20.
Yes but only if it was a random draw -- a random draw of a fixed populace isn't random.
That's me doing a "Radom draw" at a Rifle Range, and showing that 100% of random recruited survey respondents are pro gun...
 
From their online panel

Yes but only if it was a random draw -- a random draw of a fixed populace isn't random.
That's me doing a "Radom draw" at a Rifle Range, and showing that 100% of random recruited survey respondents are pro gun...

This is the results of their online panel taken september 14th to september 17th.

CPC 33 percent

LPC 32 percent

NDP 19 percent

Bloc 7 percent

PPC 6 percent

GRN 2 percent

Actual election results

CPC 34 percent

LPC 33 percent

NDP 18 percent

Bloc 8 percent

PPC 5 percent

GRN 2 percent

They had each party within a percentage point.

So get out of here with the "online bias" nonsense. If that were true then their online polling over the course of the election would have been out to lunch.
 

This is the results of their online panel taken september 14th to september 17th.

CPC 33 percent

LPC 32 percent

NDP 19 percent

Bloc 7 percent

PPC 6 percent

GRN 2 percent

Actual election results

CPC 34 percent

LPC 33 percent

NDP 18 percent

Bloc 8 percent

PPC 5 percent

GRN 2 percent

They had each party within a percentage point.

So get out of here with the "online bias" nonsense. If that were true then their online polling over the course of the election would have been out to lunch.
Hilarious you think these people can't/don't adjust their "methodology" for their purposes.
 
Hilarious you think these people can't/don't adjust their "methodology" for their purposes.
prove it or shut it.

Until then, Majority support Trudeau’s climate policy pitches made at COP26, poll suggests - National | Globalnews.ca

After Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made multiple policy announcements across the pond at the COP26 climate summit in Scotland, a new poll hints at how Canadians feel about those developments.

Sixty-nine per cent of respondents to an online survey by Leger and the Association for Canadian Studies say they support Canada’s announcement at the summit that it will cap and reduce pollution from the oil and gas sector toward net zero by 2050.

Some 65 per cent of respondents also say they support the government’s new policy to stop exporting coal by 2030, a move which would end the trade abroad of about 36 million tonnes of the resource, currently 60 per cent of what the country produces.
 
Good old Rex, raising a few red (and white) flags....

Rex Murphy: On flags and climate, Trudeau rules by fiat​

What gave Trudeau the right to decree that the flag shall be relegated to a position of half-mast for months?


It’s probably far too late and likely just useless anyway, given the current state of Canadian governance, but could someone question where the federal government, or Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, get the authority to do so many of the things they have lately taken to doing?

A plain question first: what gave Trudeau the right to decree that the flag shall be relegated to a position of half-mast for months? Is it within the authority of the prime minister himself, and him alone, to effect such a decision? In this particular case, when was the decision actually taken? And where? And who, other than himself, argued for the decision?

There must be a record of such a momentous verdict. A grave matter such as this surely would not be decided on carelessly, would it? A nation’s flag is its highest symbol, representing all its citizens, the honour of its military, the alluring totem to those who chose to immigrate here, the most cherished of all emblems.

So tell us when and who made the decision to leave the Maple Leaf in supplicant mode for five months. Was it made in the Prime Minister’s Office? Did the Liberal caucus have some say in it? Did cabinet get to vote?

This is not a trivial matter, as the flag has been hanging at half-mast and disrespected for five whole months, while the prime minister has been jetting off to international meetings with the leaders of countries whose flags are flying high. Nor can I believe there is not some protocol, some governing precedents, for when, and for how long, this country’s flag can be put in the cupboard as a political gesture.

Similar questions could be raised about all the lofty statements our prime minister has made with such relish of self-satisfaction to the grandees at COP26. Particularly his comments concerning Canada’s energy industry. Because, all western Canadians must know, what happens in Glasgow, doesn’t stay in Glasgow. It lands in Calgary.

Only weeks out from an election call that gave him less than 33 per cent of the national vote, he swept — rather flew, by government jet — into Glasgow, with a series of announcements declaring that Canada was at the front of the line for getting off oil and gas, and thereby determined to purge Alberta of its primary industry.

This was a big decision, affecting one province (for now, at least — Newfoundland is next). My question is: how much was this decision discussed with the full cabinet? Did Trudeau make even some effort to check on the feelings of the province that was targeted by his decision? Did he not think that the people who stand to lose their livelihoods due to this decision should have some say over it?

I cannot ask whether he had debated the idea in Parliament, since, somewhat in accord with his treatment of the Canadian flag, the Canadian Parliament is almost perpetually vacant these days.

Parliament is bypassed and the flag is down. The country is masked and a minority government leader is stirring great turbulence in Confederation with what appears to be a minimum of discussion and debate. And he’s doing so with an inexplicable, shameful absence of comment or protest from the opposition parties. In particular, the Conservatives, of whom we may ask: where have you gone?

These are very serious questions. Who is making these decisions? Is it just a cadre of the PMO influencers chanting “we agree” when Trudeau outlines his grand choices? Is there never any real argument? Does he really have the authority, or the jurisdictional competence, to rewrite the national agenda?

This is a much stranger time than many realize. It appears to be a time when the preferences, fixations and whims of one man are reordering the nature of the federation, and simultaneously diminishing the prestige and character of the nation’s sacred symbols.

These are matters calling for deep reflection, and spurring justifiable anxiety about our country’s future.

 
Outrage over an airline CEO not speaking french. Love that politicans are getting involved.


C'est terrible

Well, when Air Canada takes money from the (arrogant, messicanic, hubris infused Liberal) government, you might expect some preaching:

Air Canada, Canadian government reach agreement in $5.9-billion 'liquidity program'​


OTTAWA -- Air Canada and the federal government have reached an agreement on a $5.9-billion aid package that the company says will speed up customer refunds, protect industry jobs and return service to some communities that were shuttered due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

In a news release, Air Canada said the $5.879-billion liquidity agreement is provided through the government’s Large Employer Emergency Financing Facility (LEEFF) program and includes $4 billion in loans, a $500-million investment in Air Canada stock and a separate $1.4-billion loan to help facilitate customer refunds.

“I'm confident this agreement sets a standard for how such interventions should be designed with the interests of Canadians and workers coming first,” Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland told reporters in French on Monday evening. “This is a good and fair deal for Canada and Canadians.”

 
Well, when Air Canada takes money from the (arrogant, messicanic, hubris infused Liberal) government, you might expect some preaching:

Air Canada, Canadian government reach agreement in $5.9-billion 'liquidity program'​


OTTAWA -- Air Canada and the federal government have reached an agreement on a $5.9-billion aid package that the company says will speed up customer refunds, protect industry jobs and return service to some communities that were shuttered due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

In a news release, Air Canada said the $5.879-billion liquidity agreement is provided through the government’s Large Employer Emergency Financing Facility (LEEFF) program and includes $4 billion in loans, a $500-million investment in Air Canada stock and a separate $1.4-billion loan to help facilitate customer refunds.

“I'm confident this agreement sets a standard for how such interventions should be designed with the interests of Canadians and workers coming first,” Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland told reporters in French on Monday evening. “This is a good and fair deal for Canada and Canadians.”



OTTAWA - Today, the NDP called for the resignation of Air Canada's CEO Michael Rousseau following his contemptuous remarks to a reporter regarding the French language on Wednesday night.

"Mr. Rousseau is spitting in the face of Quebecers and all members of French-speaking communities across the country," said NDP Deputy Leader Alexandre Boulerice. "The French fact is threatened, and here we have the CEO of a federal company, subject to the Official Languages Act, who boasts of having a French-speaking mother and wife, but who has never lifted a finger to learn a word in French! You should do it! He should be ashamed. He should never have been put in that position.
 
They had each party within a percentage point.

Means nothing. I follow a lot of election results in Canada and the US, and there are often at least a couple of polls which manage to predict the final result in a race closely. If all a person sees is that, he might think the pollsters are awesome. But if he sees beyond that, he realizes there are a lot of darts, only a few land near the bullseye, and those aren't consistently from the same players.
 
Any bets on where Air Canada will relocate their HQ to? It's like a flashback to the 80s when overnight dozens of HQs and billions in assets moved out of Montreal because the PQ was talking about taxing companies on international revenues if they had an HQ in QC (and why I grew up in Ontario instead).
 
Any bets on where Air Canada will relocate their HQ to? It's like a flashback to the 80s when overnight dozens of HQs and billions in assets moved out of Montreal because the PQ was talking about taxing companies on international revenues if they had an HQ in QC (and why I grew up in Ontario instead).

Always welcome out west.

 
Any bets on where Air Canada will relocate their HQ to? It's like a flashback to the 80s when overnight dozens of HQs and billions in assets moved out of Montreal because the PQ was talking about taxing companies on international revenues if they had an HQ in QC (and why I grew up in Ontario instead).
They can't move their HQ, in the Air Canada Public Participation Act it states "(e) provisions specifying that the head office of the Corporation is to be situated in the Montreal Urban Community". Air Canada Public Participation Act
 
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Whatever the politics, we are happy my son-in-law is back at Air Canada after the pandemic layoff.
 
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