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CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

I have seen lots of conveniently timed scandals in recent years. YMMV.

If you read Smith's response on X, pay particular attention to the last part. This is the massive hurdle for reforming the provincial health system.
 
Does Canada need something like the Logan Act? Do we need stump party leader giving personal, independent policy intentions outside the government message on US station's.

Yes, I have lots of problems with our government's plan to retaliate about the tariffs, but having Singh, on US television spouting his nonsense just shows how splintered and unorganized we are. All to the advantage of Trump.

I place much of the blame on the liberals for pushing their agenda without the consideration of and input from the other parties. Our response should be from the whole of government, not just the ones we are about to banish to the wilderness. The same ones who's ruinous policies have brought us down the path of poverty and despair. If trudeau truly intends to wreck Canada, should we be letting him negotiate for us?

 
Business and finance are two different things. Experience and "credentials" are not readily transferable between them.

The fundamentals of prudent trade policy can be easily understood. Advanced education is not a requirement. Tariffs and embargoes are self-inflicted damage; the lower you go on inputs to the value chain (eg. steel and aluminum), the more you cripple yourself.

Our best CoA is to weather the storm without taking an axe to our own ship. It should be obvious that this is a "Trump" problem, not an "America" problem, and that plenty of other stakeholders in the US are aware of the folly and working to oppose it. Give them time; stop calling them names; don't make their situation (and ours) worse than it is.
 
Our best CoA is to weather the storm without taking an axe to our own ship. It should be obvious that this is a "Trump" problem, not an "America" problem, and that plenty of other stakeholders in the US are aware of the folly and working to oppose it. Give them time; stop calling them names; don't make their situation (and ours) worse than it is.
You're being that voice of reason again. Aren't torches and pitchforks with cries of "burn the witch" more effective? ;)

Angry Black Friday GIF by Buyout Footage
 


The bloody bastard just doesn’t stop. And I fear, we ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Today Canada, tomorrow the world. Sieg Trump!??

Welcome to the new "-ism"....

Trumpism (also referred to as the Make America Great Again movement or MAGA for short) is a political movement in the United States that comprises the political ideologies associated with U.S. President Donald Trump and his political base. It incorporates ideologies such as right-wing populism, right-wing antiglobalism, national conservatism, and neo-nationalism, and features significant illiberal and authoritarian beliefs.

 


The bloody bastard just doesn’t stop. And I fear, we ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Today Canada, tomorrow the world. Sieg Trump!??
This is dumb AF; if you get hit with tariffs where ever you are, why not just build everything outside north america and just pay the import duties once in the supply chain? I think this would be counter productive and actually move production off shore completely, instead of bringing it back to america.
 
We didn't steal anything automotive from the US


Ontario is the largest manufacturer of vehicles in North America.
Windsor (Walkerville) started building cars, large scale, in 1904

Facts about the automotive industry in Canada:

Economic Contribution

Auto manufacturing contributes over $18 billion to Canadian GDP.
Manufacturing sales of motor vehicles and parts were $62.1 billion in 2023, accounting for 7% of total sales ($862.8 billion).

Trade
Vehicles are the second largest Canadian export by value at $51 billion in 2023 of which 93% was exported to the U.S.
Autos are Ontario’s top export at 28.9% of all exports (2023).
In 2023, the North American trade bloc produced 16,166,628 vehicles (a 1.1% increase from 2022). The trade bloc represents approximately 17.3% of global production.
Given the highly integrated nature of the auto industry, parts and components may cross Canadian-U.S.-Mexican borders as many as 8 times before being installed in a final assembly.1
The Detroit-Windsor crossing represents the highest number of loaded truck container crossings annually. In 2023, there were over 2.5 million truck crossings on the Ambassador Bridge – a significant percentage of these would be auto manufacturing related.

Employment
Auto manufacturing accounts for 128,000 direct jobs in Canada. The majority of these jobs – at least 100,000 – are located in Ontario. The auto industry is responsible for over 550,000 direct and indirect jobs across Canada.
For every one auto assembly job, approximately ten other jobs are created in upstream and downstream activities

Production
1,537,111 vehicles were produced in Canada in 2023.
Canada is the 11th leading vehicle producer in the world.
Canada contributes approximately 10% of all vehicles produced in North America.
Canada is dependent on exporting outside of its own borders, with domestic consumption of just 7.7% of the vehicles it manufactures within its borders.

Canadian Vehicle Fleet
Canadian light and medium-duty vehicle registrations = 24,795,901.
There are 100 EV models available in Canada. (Ref. NRCan FCR Tool, 2024 MY Vehicles).

A list of auto manufactures, based mostly in Windsor, throught the years. Starting over a century ago. (Too long to post)


GM no longer has a presence in Windsor.

Moving auto manufacturing back to the States would cost stakeholders multiple billions of dollars. Stakeholders who are currently not flush with cash to make it happen. They would lose multiple billions more during transition. And billions more in pensions and buyouts of the Canadian UNIFOR workers.

Boastful threats that don't take costs into consideration, designed to create panic and artificial urgency, for negotiation purposes.
 
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Huh. Don’t know much about him, but he’s done some stuff.


 
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