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CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

Perhaps of Canada hadn’t spread its legs so wide for China, President Trump wouldn’t think you’d be so open to taking it…

Now I think the US approach is stupid and hurtful to both nations, but I’m surprised it took this to make Canada wake up, and frankly the angst should be focused on a number of folks not just DJT.
Trump should clean up his own yard before telling others how to clean up theirs.
Lots of open sources on China and its attempted and or influence on US politics, media and trade.

U.S. goods imports from China in 2024 totaled $438.9 billion
U.S. goods exports to China in 2024 were $143.5 billion


Canada Imports US goods in 2022 $356.5 billion 17.3 percent of total U.S. goods exports. Largest share of their exports.

Pretty good safe trade partner with Canada.
Trump wants Canada's minerals, water and skilled labor for himself. Nothing more.
This has little to do with actual physical security and Military/ border security.
If it did then the United States Military would immediately ground their US fleets of all equipment with Chinese processors and micro chips. Which is the vast majority of their equipment. Again open source on supply of these.

We shall see, if Canada makes better trade deals and agreements with friendlier nations, where that will leave Canada US trade deals. If we can source goods elsewhere and sell good elsewhere the US will be looking for somewhere else to sell their repurposed foreign goods.
 
Trump should clean up his own yard before telling others how to clean up theirs.
Lots of open sources on China and its attempted and or influence on US politics, media and trade.

U.S. goods imports from China in 2024 totaled $438.9 billion
U.S. goods exports to China in 2024 were $143.5 billion


Canada Imports US goods in 2022 $356.5 billion 17.3 percent of total U.S. goods exports. Largest share of their exports.

Pretty good safe trade partner with Canada.
Trump wants Canada's minerals, water and skilled labor for himself. Nothing more.
This has little to do with actual physical security and Military/ border security.
If it did then the United States Military would immediately ground their US fleets of all equipment with Chinese processors and micro chips. Which is the vast majority of their equipment. Again open source on supply of these.

We shall see, if Canada makes better trade deals and agreements with friendlier nations, where that will leave Canada US trade deals. If we can source goods elsewhere and sell good elsewhere the US will be looking for somewhere else to sell their repurposed foreign goods.
Don’t confuse Taiwan with China for processors and chips.

You can get a waiver on some material (like Titanium) for country of origin, but you can’t get waivers for electronics.
 
And that circles me right back to asking the same question as before... Why hasn't that happened yet?
Speaking entirely hypothetically- if it had, that doesn’t mean the public would know. I don’t think I’ve ever obtained a production order (most recently was four days ago) that didn’t include a non disclosure order, and Informations to Obtain are routinely sealed from the public. Many investigative steps only become publicly known if a charge is laid and materials are unsealed for disclosure.
 
Brian Lilley in Washington trailing the Premiers and interviewing Steve Bannon.

The Premiers were not wasting their time.
Dave Eby screwed the pooch.

Three words: China, China, China.


This isn't Trump with a hair up his butt. This is not Trump and Xi measuring attributes. This is Xi's predecessor, Hu Jin Tao, in 2010 telling Steven Harper he wanted a seat on the Arctic Council and that China is an Arctic nation. Followed by ....




 
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I think this is the reason why Trump doesn't want Russia humiliated and right now Vlad is Russia. If Russia were to go the way of the USSR and Yugoslavia then that would open the Siberian Arctic to Chinese influence.

Europe and Ukraine not being at the table gives Trump a cutout. Kind of like when you are buying a new car and the salesman says he will have to go talk to his manager. You have no way of knowing what that conversation was about or even if it happened.
 
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Brian Lilley in Washington trailing the Premiers and interviewing Steve Bannon.

The Premiers were not wasting their time.
Dave Eby screwed the pooch.

Three words: China, China, China.


This isn't Trump with a hair up his butt. This is not Trump and Xi measuring attributes. This is Xi's predecessor in 2010 telling Steven Harper he wanted a seat on the Arctic Council and that China is an Arctic nation. Followed by ....






Something, something, I told you so, keep bouncing around in my skull.

It may already be too late, but you can't give China the slightest toe hold in any country, without long term damage to said country.

Plain and simple, their long game is world domination and sole ownership of all resources. WEF are amateurs, comparably, when it comes to installing friendly officials in foreign governments. Even though the goals appear the same.

We have had enough espionage, smuggling, political interference, coercion and theft of intellectual property, by Beijing to justify a complete severance from them. If we can't buy back what they now own here, we should nationalize it and squeeze them out.

We should help them go green and make them start using all the wind generators and solar panels they export by stopping our coal shipments to them.
 
Enbridge weighs in...

Enbridge CEO Calls for "National Interest" Designation for Major Pipelines in Canada

Enbridge Inc. CEO Greg Ebel said Canada must designate major pipeline projects as being "in the national interest" before companies will reinvest in them.

Speaking Friday during a quarterly earnings conference call, Ebel outlined several conditions necessary for Enbridge to consider future major oil pipeline projects similar to the company's cancelled Northern Gateway pipeline project.

Ebel said such a designation would require legislative changes at both the federal and provincial levels. He cited the need for permitting reforms and the repeal of federal legislation like Bill C-69, which altered the process for federal reviews of major projects.

He also emphasized the importance of increased Indigenous consultation and loan guarantees for Indigenous groups seeking equity stakes in these projects.

Ebel criticized federal environmental policies, including Bill C-59's greenwashing regulations and the oil and gas emissions cap, arguing that government policies should support energy production rather than curtail it.

Enbridge CEO Calls for "National Interest" Designation for Major Pipelines in Canada | Pipeline Technology Journal
 
'National interest' needs to include protection from foreign and domestic interference from environmental and special interest groups. Charges laid and sentences given need to reflect the seriousness of our resolve to get this done.

It also needs to legislate a cure to future interference from another special interest government like our current one.
 
Something, something, I told you so, keep bouncing around in my skull.

It may already be too late, but you can't give China the slightest toe hold in any country, without long term damage to said country.

Plain and simple, their long game is world domination and sole ownership of all resources. WEF are amateurs, comparably, when it comes to installing friendly officials in foreign governments. Even though the goals appear the same.

We have had enough espionage, smuggling, political interference, coercion and theft of intellectual property, by Beijing to justify a complete severance from them. If we can't buy back what they now own here, we should nationalize it and squeeze them out.

We should help them go green and make them start using all the wind generators and solar panels they export by stopping our coal shipments to them.
Coal, and wheat/grains also.

A billion + mouths to feed surely isn't easy, and humans start to act irrational and dangerous when they start to go hungry.

I imagine food shipments (or certain key ingredients such as wheat, grains, etc) are our secret weapon against China, in addition to coal.



I don't know if China and the WEF share the same goals, at least not in a competitive sense.

China wants to dominate the world, and plays the long game to see that it happens. I don't know if they want to eliminate all of the nations of the world, but they certainly do want to influence their politics and control their resources.

The WEF on the other hand seems more interested in the destruction of the idea of the nation state, the elimination of borders, the elimination of unique & rich cultures in favour of a mass migration "meh" culture shared world wide, and the systematic elimination of humans.

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I agree with you. China does make the WEF globalists look like amateurs by comparison.
China still practices statemanship, in it's own form. They want other countries to turn to China for their economic needs, and they want other countries to allow them to build infrastructure there for future use - so they try to maintain good relations, because its more economically beneficial to both parties.

The WEF has gotten sloppy in terms of their political interference, most likely due to just sheer arrogance. They've corrupted and disrupted the proper functioning of all levels of government in so many western countries, they certainly seem a lot less concerned about the spotlight being shown on them or their plans.

I would also agree with you that China does long term damage to whatever countries they focus on. I would just suggest that the WEF does also, and to an equal degree
 
Ah yes, the WEF.


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