Originally posted by combat_medic:
[qb] I hold little respect for them because they aren‘t held up to any standard, other than the couple weekends of training that any trained monkey could pass.
As for myself, I don‘t expect respect from anyone. I EARN it (heaven forbid).
BTW, I did walk into a cadet unit and a cadet camp for an entire summer, and figured out your so-called "intricacies" in about 10 minutes. Also, if they were held to the same standard as the Reserve;
1. They wouldn‘t be eligible for tuition reimbursement as they would require a post secondary degree before even applying.
2. There would be SIGNIFICANTLY less CIC officers, as the majority would not pass the written test, physical, medical, background checks and interview. Not to mention being required to pass all the courses.
3. No officer outside the reg force is guaranteed employment.
4. They may be trained with "relevant information" as far as you and the cadet world are concerned, but learning to write a memo, do BASIC drill, and not sexually harass children does not make them contributing members of the CF, nor make them worthy of a commission, in my humble opinion.
But, despite all this, the CIC will continue to amble along on its merry way, expecting to command the respect of CF members, when all they are is boy scout leaders with a bar on their shoulders.
Have I mentioned yet that respect needs to be earned? [/qb]
Of course, respect should be earned by the individual. You‘re belittling an entire component of the CF. HUGE difference.
But let‘s go over your points:
1. I called up CFRC, and as long as I have a University Acceptence in my hand, I can start the enrollment process (as an officer), and be given $2000/year towards tuition. Ergo, any CIC Officer attending university (as I said in my post) would be eligable, if they were to be held to the same standard.
2. Um, incase you didn‘t know they have to have an interview, conducted at CFRC and all that good stuff. Background check? Of course! Apparently, when you work with minors, parents like to be assured that the guys in charge have a background check done.
I live with someone who processes CIC applications for a living, and she confirms it all
Apparently there‘s some part that contains some writing now.
As for the physical portion, they have to be in decent health (although I suppose that‘s subjective, and people let themselves go occassionally). But again I go back to the pool of these recruits, and the amount of it in their job.
3. My mistake. But it would seem that there is a higher percentage of reservists on course during the summer than CIC Employment.
4. I don‘t even know how to respond to this comment. I don‘t know whether you didn‘t research RCIS or what....I haven‘t quite figured it out yet. Go research all the courses, the course material they need to know (and APPLY right away, with no time to really OJT), and the time in which they learn it. And then go back, and think AGAIN who some of these people are. I‘m just shocked by the level of disrespect, and what looks like ignorance (Maybe it isn‘t) towards an entire branch of the forces.
As for you figuring out the intricacies in about 10 minutes, well, I commend you. You must be far more intelligent than, well most everyone in the system. I know people who have worked at HQ a good 20 years, and still have new issues pop up. I very much doubt that you understand the cadet system to it‘s fullest. Seeing how things run, and knowing how the entire system, it‘s funding, it‘s supply, admin, camp selection, working with HQ, etc, well, takes most people a good 10 years.
