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Good luck with that. Jim “The-Dim-Apprentice” Prentice as he is known by First Nations is neither liked or respected. They think he is looking for a few Indians who want a large payout to give the project some press credibility. It is a PR campaign and changes nothing.

Baird will eventually be hamstrung because of his lifestyle. It would be cool if Canada was progressive enough that the right wing party could choose a gay leader, but I don't think we are there yet.

McKay is hands down the smartest, but he can't keep a promise to save his life. That is what will keep him out of the leaders chair. If he does get it he has the best chances of forming a government.

Kenny does not have the charisma to win a federal election. He may be the win the leadership, but only because everyone else is carrying too much baggage.
 
>They think he is looking for a few Indians who want a large payout to give the project some press credibility.

It'll be more than "a few", but basically the payout is the only thing holding up approval.
 
Brad Sallows said:
>They think he is looking for a few Indians who want a large payout to give the project some press credibility.

It'll be more than "a few", but basically the payout is the only thing holding up approval.


I'm inclined to agree ...

I'm afraid that, in my view, anyway, First Nations' leadership is weak and venal ~ I know there are notable exceptions, many of them, but broadly and generally: weak and venal.

I'm guessing that Mr Prentice has to do two things:

    1. Find out the price of the weak, venal leaders; and

    2. Produce a package that addresses the legitimate concerns of the strong, honest leaders.

If he does that he is Captain Canada, given the potential for people avoiding Quebec like the plague for a few years.
 
Not directly related to the leadership, except in the sense that it will be interesting to soo who Prime Minister harper picks to head Finance and what the impact of that might be on someone's leadership aspirations, but, the media is reproting that Finance Minister Jim Flaherty is resigning from the federal cabinet. The effective date is not clear, but I am assuming it is immediate.

His full statement is:

Yesterday, I informed the Prime Minister that I am resigning from Cabinet. This was a decision I made with my family earlier this year, as I will be returning to the private sector.

I am grateful to Prime Minister Stephen Harper for providing me with the opportunity and responsibility to serve Canadians as their Minister of Finance since 2006, one of the longest serving Finance Ministers in Canadian history. As a government, we achieved great things for Canada and I could never have accomplished what I have as Finance Minister without the full support of Prime Minister Harper.

As I reflect on my almost two decades in politics, I am proud of the accomplishments of the governments I was part of, provincial and federal.

In my time as Finance Minister, I am proud of the work I have done to help manage the deepest economic challenge to face Canada since the depression of the 1930s and ensure Canada emerged stronger and as a recognized economic leader on the international stage.

Along with managing Canada’s performance during the global economic crisis, I am pleased our government brought forward positive measures to make Canada one of the world’s best places to do business.  I am proud to be part of a government that:
    [o] reduced Canada’s business taxes to the lowest level in the G-7;
    [o] reduced other taxes 160 times;
    [o] introduced the Tax-Free Savings Account (TFSA) and the Working Income Tax Benefit (WITB)
    [o] took action on four separate occasions to protect Canada’s housing market; and
    [o] took historical steps to strengthen Canada’s securities regulation regime.
I also made it a priority to help improve the well-being of people with disabilities. Our government has worked hard to ensure our country benefits from the talents and abilities of Canadians with disabilities. We improved accessibility through the Enabling Accessibility Fund, provided new investments for people with disabilities to join and contribute to the workforce, and helped improve access to financial independence through programs such as the Registered Disabilities Savings Plan (RDSP).

My goal was always to get Canada back on track to a balanced budget after the large deficit we agreed was necessary in Budget 2009 to combat the Great Recession and protect Canadian jobs. As outlined in Budget 2014, I followed through on that commitment. There is no doubt that Canada’s budget will be balanced in 2015.  Canada’s fiscal position is the envy of the developed world.  All Canadians can be proud of the country’s performance.

Now, I will focus on life beyond politics as I return to the private sector. I believe that I have served my country, province and constituents of Whitby-Oshawa to the best of my abilities and thank them for their continued trust and support for almost two decades. It has been an honour to serve Canadians with the Prime Minister, Cabinet and caucus colleagues and all Members of Parliament in the House of Commons.

As many of you know, I faced a health issue over this past year. I have received much support and good wishes from Canadians across the country and for that, I am thankful.  I am happy to report that I am on the road to a full recovery and the decision to leave politics was not related in any way to my health. This decision was made because it is the right one for me and my family at this time.

I would also like to thank all Canadians who expressed their support and encouragement over my years in public service. I have often said that public service is a noble calling and have encouraged young people, including my own children, to consider it as a worthy career choice.  I believe a career in the public service is the most satisfying and personally enriching career you will ever find.

I want to thank my wife Christine and our three sons for their unwavering support during my time in public office. I am lucky to have such a wonderful family.

As I begin another chapter in my life, I leave feeling fulfilled with what we have accomplished as a government and a country during one of the most challenging economic periods in our country’s history.

We live in the greatest country in the world, and I want Canadians to know that it has been my honour and my privilege to serve them.

Thank you.

Jim Flaherty
 
The speculation begins: Jason Kenney; James Moore and Lisa Raitt are all being mentioned as potential Finance Ministers; ditto Joe Oliver, who has a lot a Bay Street experience, and Tony Clement, anothet veteran of the Mike Harris cabinet. Although some journalists have said John Baird, I doubt he's in play.

 
Only one is qualified to be a finance minister. Strange that Flaherty would abandon ship right now. Any speculation?

Jason Kenney- Philosophy degree
James Moore- Community college for business administration
Lisa Raitt- Masters in Chemistry
Joe Oliver- MBA Harvard Business School
 
Nemo888 said:
Only one is qualified to be a finance minister. Strange that Flaherty would abandon ship right now. Any speculation?

Jason Kenney- Philosophy degree
James Moore- Community college for business administration
Lisa Raitt- Masters in Chemistry
Joe Oliver- MBA Harvard Business School

Now that is credentialism if I've ever seen it...

Surely you do not need a Harvard MBA to realize that if you are spending more than you are making, you end up going into debt...
 
Why on earth would we need someone with more than a community college certificate to run a G20 economy? Perhaps because we would want the most qualified individual.

Harper is an economist and has ballooned annual expenditures by 31.4% since 2006 while cutting taxes.(7% pop growth in that time) You argue tax and spend is bad, so what do you think of cutting revenues while increasing spending?
 
Nemo888 said:
Why on earth would we need someone with more than a community college certificate to run a G20 economy? Perhaps because we would want the most qualified individual.

Harper is an economist and has ballooned annual expenditures by 31.4% since 2006 while cutting taxes.(7% pop growth in that time) You argue tax and spend is bad, so what do you think of cutting revenues while increasing spending?

Actually, what I pointed out is that listing the candidates by their formal education (which you didn't even get right) and basically saying that "the best candidate is the one with the best piece of paper" is called credentialism.

By the argument you've presented, we don't even need to have political campaigns, press conferences, etc. Whoever holds a PhD from the most prestigious Ivy League School should just be handed the keys to 24 Sussex, let's skip all the other nonsense.
 
Jim Flaherty, arguably a good, solid Finance Minister is a lawyer; ditto Ralph Goodale, John Manley and Paul Martin. Michael Wilson, who was Finance Minister in the 1980s, was a Bay Street type. Good ministers are good, tough, brave leader/managers ... the qualifications are human rather than academic.
 
ballz said:
Actually, what I pointed out is that listing the candidates by their formal education (which you didn't even get right) and basically saying that "the best candidate is the one with the best piece of paper" is called credentialism.

By the argument you've presented, we don't even need to have political campaigns, press conferences, etc. Whoever holds a PhD from the most prestigious Ivy League School should just be handed the keys to 24 Sussex, let's skip all the other nonsense.

Careful ballz, careful, you'll find it hard to escape ;D
 
This is not Minister of State for Multiculturalism or Minister of Canadian Heritage. It's Finance. I would prefer an MBA with at least a decade of experience as a CFO. If they have run their own company or firm for a few decades that would be alright as well.
 
That's nice.

Besides the fact that his MBA is 44 years old (how relevent is it to today's economy / business environment?) and that Finance is not exactly a hard science (is his MBA even focused on Finance?), I would like to know/hear more about/from these people and hear what they think and what their ideas are going forward before I decide that a Harvard MBA is some sort of God-card that trumps everything.
 
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>Only one is qualified to be a finance minister.

The only "qualification" is appointment by the G-G.  Believe it or not, there are federal civil servants to provide the day-to-day expertise.  I suggest you get some fresh air.
 
Joe Oliver to replace Jim Flaherty as finance minister.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/joe-oliver-to-replace-jim-flaherty-as-finance-minister-1.2577648
 
The rumoured appointment of Joe Oliver takes pressure off the likely leadership candidates.

Minister Oliver is a good choice: known and respected on Bay Street and in the caucus and cabinet; he holds Eglington-Lawrence, a urban Toronto riding, as close to downtown TO as the CPC can get; he has no leadership ambitions.

It's not clear that, at age 73 now, he intends to run again in 2015 but he strikes me as being physically and mentally fit.
 
Does anyone but me think there's an even chance that Mr Flaherty's departure gives him ample time to clear the decks and marshal his forces in time for a leadership run after the 2015 election?
 
ModlrMike said:
Does anyone but me think there's an even chance that Mr Flaherty's departure gives him ample time to clear the decks and marshal his forces in time for a leadership run after the 2015 election?


No, I don't think so.

I think Jim Flaherty has two ambitions:

    1. Earn a few big, corporate pay cheques, because he needs to earn some big money to address some family health problems (one of his sons); and

    2. Help his wife, Christine Elliot, become Premier of Ontario, because many (most?) people think Tim Hudak cannot win.
 
ModlrMike said:
Does anyone but me think there's an even chance that Mr Flaherty's departure gives him ample time to clear the decks and marshal his forces in time for a leadership run after the 2015 election?

Doubtful.  He's 65.  If PM Harper runs (all indications is that he will), he'll stay for at least two years if not the full term.  That would put Flaherty at close to 70 and possibly 72 depending on the scenario.  While he states that health wasn't a factor, he likely won't be healthier then.

Not impossible but highly improbable.    Unless you think the CPC will lose in 2015 and Harper steps down.  But then why leave now if that were the case?
 
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