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The Khadr Thread

He's using a typical "4th Generation Warfare" tactic of using our weakness against us - he is playing on Western fears by trying to promote the belief that we're "putting people on the rack and ripping their finger nails out" in order to undermine our resolve.  Piss on him (and his unprincipled lawyers), I say.

That i can totally agree with.  I hope this case goes no where but i bet he wins the lottery. 
 
Glorified Ape said:
Why? Would you suggest I obey an illegal order or issue such orders to my men? Because that's what I would be doing if I participated in or ordered the practices we're discussing here. I'd say we need fewer people in the forces willing to do that kind of tripe, not more.

I have no problem with employing the dirtiest tactics possible within the boundaries set for me by the CF but little "exceptions" tend to snowball into general practice if they're not nipped in the bud.

Well said...

T
 
yea, when hes free hes a terriost when hes in jail hes a Canadian citizen askin for a free ticket out...
 
Infanteer said:
That being said, I'm willing to bet that Khadr wasn't tortured, he was only interrogated and perhaps, considering who he is, handled roughly.   He's using a typical "4th Generation Warfare" tactic of using our weakness against us - he is playing on Western fears by trying to promote the belief that we're "putting people on the rack and ripping their finger nails out" in order to undermine our resolve.   Piss on him (and his unprincipled lawyers), I say.

Well said and straight to the mark!
 
Armymedic said:
If he's one of Canada's children, why is he overseas learning the ways of those who wish to destroy the ways of life in the western Christian Democratic countries. (just because your born here doesn't automatically mean you are Canadian)


wow i completely agree with you.

patty said:
yea, when hes free hes a terriost when hes in jail hes a Canadian citizen askin for a free ticket out...

and wow i completely agree with you to. unfortunately that happens allot
 
Them being tortured is bad, but not as bad as them cuttin captured soldier's heads off!
 
JasonH said:
Fully agree!
Fully agree! Too! To the media the way they showed this story is bais and the U.S. gov't has many good reasons to do arrest Khadr that the media can't know because it's top serect that type of thing.
Frankly I don't think Khadr was tortured and I don't think the U.S. tortures people.
 
Mounties uncover 'Al Qaeda' cache
Plans, tapes diaries seized at Pearson
Zaynab Khadr denies they belong to her

MICHELLE SHEPHARD
STAFF REPORTER

OTTAWAâ ”The RCMP and Canadian military believe they've discovered a vital cache of information on Al Qaeda that includes the whereabouts of wanted members and details of attacks on coalition forces in Afghanistan.

The information is allegedly contained in a laptop, dozens of DVDs, audiocassettes and the pages of diaries, seized by the RCMP officers who met Zaynab Khadr at Pearson airport with a search warrant as she arrived back in Canada in February, court documents state.

Khadr is the eldest daughter of a family that has admitted close ties to Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and whose patriarch was once believed to be the highest-ranking Canadian member of Al Qaeda. Her younger brother, Omar, is currently Canada's only known detainee in the American camp in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

With the three-month time limit allotted to the federal police force to hold the items having now expired, the RCMP must go to a Toronto court this Friday to persuade a judge to allow them to continue doing a forensic evaluation of the seized materials. But Khadr's lawyer Dennis Edney says the Mounties are on nothing more than a "fishing expedition," and will argue that Khadr is entitled to her possessions.

Khadr, 25, said in an interview yesterday that anything found on the laptop, except personal pictures and a few "cartoons" that she downloaded, are not hers. She says she bought her laptop second-hand about seven months before coming to Canada. The audiocassettes, described in court documents as providing "significant information regarding `after-battle action reports' of Al Qaeda and Taliban insurgents" involved in attacking coalition forces in Afghanistan, were found among her father's possessions after he was killed in 2003, Khadr said.

"I think it's my right to bring what I want since I'm not breaking any laws, so I decided to bring them," she said. "Although I don't know what's on them, I still thought I'd bring them."

Khadr has not been charged in Canada or Pakistan, where she lived with her young daughter and sister before returning to Scarborough to be with her mother and brothers.

The court documents state there are "still a number of steps" to be taken in the investigation, that cannot be disclosed, but that her written records are being studied by the RCMP's behavioural sciences unit for a "psychological analysis" and to determine if she is a "threat to society."

Among her possessions, the RCMP allege, are downloaded clips of bin Laden's voice and songs â ” one titled "I am a Terrorist" â ” which contain excerpts from speeches calling for the killing of Americans. There is also allegedly a video clip of a 2003 attack on a compound used by Westerners in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and cassettes about insurgent attacks in Afghanistan. Canada has troops stationed in Afghanistan.

"(T)hey provide insights into the tactics, techniques and procedures by these insurgent groups," the documents allege. "They (also) provide time and place information regarding activities of key Al Qaeda and Taliban personalities who are presently at large and operating against coalition troops."

The seven-page affidavit by RCMP Sgt. Konrad Shourie, filed last month in the Ontario Court of Justice, provides rarely revealed details about the terrorism investigation.

The Khadr family has created its share of controversy. Khadr's father, Egyptian-born and Canadian citizen Ahmed Said Khadr, generated enough public pressure in 1996 to convince prime minister Jean Chrétien to intervene when he was facing charges in Pakistan in connection with the bombing of the Egyptian embassy in Islamabad. He died in a battle in Pakistan in October 2003. After the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks he was put on a list of suspected Al Qaeda terrorists. His family's connections to bin Laden were confirmed three years later with a documentary where his son, Abdurahman, admitted to growing up in an "Al Qaeda family."
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1118700615668
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Goddamn Khadr's, when in the name of blue hell do we get off the PC f*cking pot and deport these b*stards, grrrr. It's not mine, some terrorist guy just happened to leave Al Qaeda tactics et al on the laptop I purchased.  ::) Jimmy Hoffa dissapeared but these f*ckers are still here, give me a break.
 
"Someone else put that stuff on my laptop!  I didn't even know it was there!"
"I didn't know what was on the tapes...I just decided to haul them around the world for fun!"

C'mon, give me a break!  ::)  Pack them off!  :rage:
 
Gee...

in a time where airport security is tight and anything Al Qaeda
will be red flagged, she decided to just brings stuff into Canada
of this nature and didn't think anything of it?!  Right...

Jail
 
She lives in Scarborough too eh, if only I can find out where.  >:D I would like to personally see what those tapes and such contain.
 
qor556 said:
She lives in Scarborough too eh, if only I can find out where.   >:D I would like to personally see what those tapes and such contain.

Eglinton and Midland area.  When they came back to Canada, they showed the house and mentioned the last name of the grandmother who owns the house, and well a quick search on canada411.ca, presto I found the address and yes it was the place the showed on tv.  Unfortunately it has been some time since i searched, so I no longer remember the name or exact address, just the general area.
 
Now Now, be nice or you will be branded a racist.  Remember they have more rights under the charter, than we do.  Heaven forbid if we violate these "rites". (spelling changed to change meaning of word)
 
I hope to God that the judge who is reviewing the warrant is not some pc clown with strong ties to the Lieberal party...Cause if he is you know what's going to happen!
 
Sounds like the Khadr family is still in the game despite their father being killed, their brother being jailed in Gitmo, another brother being killed in Afghanistan and a third one being paralyzed there fighting the Americans.

Is there anything they can do that will get them deported?
 
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