Future Armour

[markppcli]

Even if you do need a heavy there is no reason why it cant have light escorts.

Talk to the Navy.

You mean like the lighter vehicles conducting reconnaissance and carrying the infantry? So in other words…. What we were talking about.

I don’t know where you intend to go with the navy analogy. Modern naval combat is about escorting carriers with air defence and ASW ships. Not really the same as effecting a breach of a defensive position.

@PrairieFella makes a reasonable point about the next gen of MBTs getting lighter, I don’t know that we need heavier recce vehicles and I’m not really a fan of medium cavalry, to me lav’s are light and G Wagon / TAPVs aren’t cavalry vehicles.

 

[PrairieFella]

You mean like the lighter vehicles conducting reconnaissance and carrying the infantry? So in other words…. What we were talking about.

I don’t know where you intend to go with the navy analogy. Modern naval combat is about escorting carriers with air defence and ASW ships. Not really the same as effecting a breach of a defensive position.

@PrairieFella makes a reasonable point about the next gen of MBTs getting lighter, I don’t know that we need heavier recce vehicles and I’m not really a fan of medium cavalry, to me lav’s are light and G Wagon / TAPVs aren’t cavalry vehicles.

RE TAPV and LUVW, they aren't cavalry vehicles in RCAC doctrine. We've been using them as such for lack of platform but they're considered PMV (protected mobility vehicles) for rear area tasks. Med cav would bring some more significant firepower to bear than a LAV (I envision 30mm-40mm with an ATGM system) and is significantly smaller - no need for all that dismount room. Fixing, shaping, raiding, recce by force, delays, etc. That's the role med cav will need to fill. Light Cav has a real hard time with those more kinetic tasks.

 

[markppcli]

RE TAPV and LUVW, they aren't cavalry vehicles in RCAC doctrine. We've been using them as such for lack of platform but they're considered PMV (protected mobility vehicles) for rear area tasks. Med cav would bring some more significant firepower to bear than a LAV (I envision 30mm-40mm with an ATGM system) and is significantly smaller - no need for all that dismount room. Fixing, shaping, raiding, recce by force, delays, etc. That's the role med cav will need to fill. Light Cav has a real hard time with those more kinetic tasks.

Well I mean we can say that, but every light cav Sqn in the country features tapv prominently.

Ref back space - agree it’s not ideal, but having dismounted gobs is never a bad thing for recce, and a common chaos is good for sustainment.