2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

[FSTO]

An article on fake news and disinformation in this new age.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/party-leader-networth-misinformation-ai-1.7498417

brings to light “Pierre Poilievre News” being the garbage “source” I said it was.

I was having dinner with friends of my spouse (her and all her friends are Liberals, I bring reason and accountability to the group ) on Sunday. The lady of the house was adamant that PP had 25 million in assets. I had no rebuttal but I bookmarked the comment and updated her today. She replied that she "shouldn't believe everything you read on Social Media." LOL! I told her that we all get hoodwinked every once in a while

 

[OldSolduer]

I was having dinner with friends of my spouse (her and all her friends are Liberals, I bring reason and accountability to the group ) on Sunday. The lady of the house was adamant that PP had 25 million in assets. I had no rebuttal but I bookmarked the comment and updated her today. She replied that she "shouldn't believe everything you read on Social Media." LOL! I told her that we all get hoodwinked every once in a while

25 million? Not that much - lets have a look at Carney's wealth.

 

[RangerRay]

Having chatted with CFINTCOM's OSINT people, there is a list of fake news sites that are labeled as low risk that they allow to stay up to use for training purposes. Many of these sites are easy to pick up, especially when you start googling when the site was created, who created etc

A definite telltale sign is it ends in .ru like “eaglepatriotnews.ru”

 

[Remius]

25 million? Not that much - lets have a look at Carney's wealth.

Same site said 6.9 million . And Trudeau is worth 200 million apparently

 

[Lumber]

Maybe I'm wrong, IDK. However, carney, IMO, is way to close to China. Brookfield has major investments there, that he negotiated. What's good for China is what's good for Brookefield.

It would appear, that while working for trudeau and Canada, he was making deals with the Chinese, for Brookfield. Sometime in Oct-Nov 2024, he secured a $250 million loan from the Chinese bank.

"On September 9, 2024, former prime minister Justin Trudeau named Carney the chair of a task force on economic growth.

The following month, Carney met with the deputy director of the People’s Bank of China, according to Poilievre and a Chinese-language news article he cited in his post. Then, a few weeks later, Brookfield allegedly secured a $250 million loan from a Chinese state-owned bank."

There are likely good reasons he won't disclose his financials. Where there's smoke...........

Carney’s Brookfield ties to China take the spotlight

Liberal Party of Canada Leader Mark Carney can’t seem to shake his controversial past work with the investing firm Brookfield Asset Management.

www.junonews.com

Brookfield’s Deep Ties to Chinese Land, Loans, and Green Deals—And a Real Estate Tycoon With CCP Links—Raise Questions as Carney Takes Over from Trudeau

Brookfield Bet Billions on Shanghai Land as China’s Market Peaked and Secured $276 Million Bank of China Refinancing Under Mark Carney as Market Crashed

www.thebureau.news

Given the states of our things with our oh-so-reliable "partner" to the south, maybe we should eb applauding Carney and Brookfield for their sound business decision making and foresite. Maybe the answer to all of Canada's "economic woes" as many on here are apt to point out, is to grow our economic relationship with China as much as possible.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Given the states of our things with our oh-so-reliable "partner" to the south, maybe we should eb applauding Carney and Brookfield for their sound business decision making and foresite. Maybe the answer to all of Canada's "economic woes" as many on here are apt to point out, is to grow our economic relationship with China as much as possible.

Except China has little riders in their propositions.

Like, currently, they are willing to enter into free trade talks, but one of their takes is a joint Arctic Research Station in Canada's north.

No matter what China says, they are not an Arctic nation. Their interest in OUR arctic territory is purely mercenary. How many times do we need to be caught flat footed, like our stolen viruses, before we acknowledge China is not a friend and only uses us. Whether our politicians admire their system or not. You can include manipulation of our real estate system, money laundering, making us a conduit for fentanyl precursors, Chinese police stations, kidnapping and imprisonment of Canadians like the two Michaels, and most recent, friendly Chinese/Canadian politicians doing their dirty work.

They need what we have. If they can't be satisfied with a straight trade agreement, without subverting our sovereignty all the time, they might have a case. If we do trade with them, that should be the extent of our involvment with them.

 

[CBH99]

Look at the numbers the CPC is pulling in areas like Hamilton. They are gathering NDP supporters not pulling from the Liberals.
People I know from primary school down in Windsor are suddenly supporting the CPC, people who voted NDP their whole auto worker unionized life.

Aha! I had a feeling I was reading that differently than what was meant - cheers

I'm glad they are pulling from the NDP to be honest. After Jagmeet sold out his voters to support the LPC long enough for him to claim his pension, regardless of what is supporters thought, is good grounds to look elsewhere.

If a party that I supported continually used it's political weight to keep a corrupt & damaging party in power time & again just so our party leader could claim a pension despite already being wealthy - I'd be looking elsewhere also...

"Yeah, yay! Discounted dental work for all! And free drugs via pharmacare for all!" certainly wouldn't be enough to distract me from the fact that the party leader supported the government in some truly detrimental legislation to the country long term.

(May as well have promised us all ponies while they were at it!)



I've caught a bit of this & that from Pierre's recent Ontario rallies, and saw some photos on Instagram from Jagmeet's rally......yikes!!

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Union members have been ignoring their local executives endorsements for about a decade down here. They have been voting for who they want. In fact, many get pissed when they are told who to vote for by the union.

 

[MilEME09]

Union members have been ignoring their local executives endorsements for about a decade down here. They have been voting for who they want. In fact, many get pissed when they are told who to vote for by the union.

So a few pages ago you made a big deal of the boiler worker union endorsing poilievre, but now your saying union endorsements don't matter?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

"Yeah, yay! Discounted dental work for all!

The Brits have a national dental plan.

 

[MilEME09]

Conservatives drop second election candidate in one day

Conservatives drop second election candidate in one day

The Conservatives have dropped a second candidate in the election race, in a single day.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Jarnhamar]

So a few pages ago you made a big deal of the boiler worker union endorsing poilievre, but now your saying union endorsements don't matter?

Yes and no.

Unions spend a lot of money donating. Unifor spent over a million dollars in 2019 on anti-Conservative ads.

 

[brihard]

Conservatives drop second election candidate in one day

Conservatives drop second election candidate in one day

The Conservatives have dropped a second candidate in the election race, in a single day.

www.ctvnews.ca

Looks like basically for generalized batshittery. Probably a good call. They’re likely looking for any toxic candidates who slipped through vetting. I respect their discipline on it.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

So a few pages ago you made a big deal of the boiler worker union endorsing poilievre, but now your saying union endorsements don't matter?

You're trying to put words in my mouth. Show me where I said union endorsements don't matter. What I just said is members don’t blindly follow the executives orders anymore. I'll guarantee not all members of the boilermakers union will vote CPC.

Nice try.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Carney will not repeal C-69 (anti pipeline legislation). He won't commit to a pipeline corridor and has said we need to leave half of our petroleum in the ground.

 

[Remius]

Conservatives drop second election candidate in one day

The Conservatives have dropped a second candidate in the election race, in a single day.

www.ctvnews.ca

And a second CPC candidate dropped…

 

[MilEME09]

Carney will not repeal C-69 (anti pipeline legislation). He won't commit to a pipeline corridor and has said we need to leave half of our petroleum in the ground.

That's literally the opposite of what he said at the first ministers meeting before the writ dropped. Conservatives are spreading a lot of hysteria that Carney is anti oil but carneys statements and actions say otherwise. It really shows how outnof touch the CPC campaign plan is, as it's all about character assassination on Carney.

Take defense for example, the CPC is the only major party that hasn't committed to 2% GDP, and other then the base in Iqualiut, we have no idea what their defense platform is, or how they will deal with the deal challenges of the CAF like retention or procurement.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Take defense for example, the CPC is the only major party that hasn't committed to 2% GDP,

Being committed to 2% GDP hasn't helped the Liberals materialize that promise in the last 10 years.

Why do you think they mean it after the 4th or 5th time promising it?

 

[MilEME09]

Being committed to 2% GDP hasn't helped the Liberals materialize that promise in the last 10 years.

Why do you think they mean it after the 4th or 5th time promising it?

This is the first time its been committed in an election however, and again the CPC have been very quiet on defense

 

[Jarnhamar]

This is the first time its been committed in an election however, and again the CPC have been very quiet on defense

Who cares when it's promised though? A promise is a promise.

Beaides the Liberal party is hardly averse to breaking election promises.

Why hold the CPC's feet to the fire for not promising when the guys you're thinking of voting for broke that promise over and over again?



Not to badger you bro, I guess I just don't understand the reasoning why people hang on election promises so much. Past behavior seems like the best indicator of future behavior.