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U.S. 2012 Election

On Nov 6 Who Will Win President Obama or Mitt Romney ?

  • President Obama

    Votes: 39 61.9%
  • Mitt Romney

    Votes: 24 38.1%

  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .
I am of the opinion that the earlier a campaign goes negative, the more trouble they're in. Today was the first Obama commercial that I've seen, and it was negative. One has to ask: why does it seem you have so little good to say about yourself, that you must concentrate on the negative in others?
 
"I am not a witch". . . .  The original.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGGAgljengs&feature=youtube_gdata_player


There be some desperation in Obama's ad
 
ModlrMike said:
I am of the opinion that the earlier a campaign goes negative, the more trouble they're in. Today was the first Obama commercial that I've seen, and it was negative. One has to ask: why does it seem you have so little good to say about yourself, that you must concentrate on the negative in others?

Geez Mike, where ya been? Both sides have been running really negative for the past month. And there were hints of negative off and on since Romney became the last man standing.

And it's only going to get worse. Count your blessings that you are in Canada. I have the unfortunate pleasure of living in a "swing state", so get to see them at every commercial break. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.......... and over.

:ok:
 
cupper said:
Geez Mike, where ya been? Both sides have been running really negative for the past month. And there were hints of negative off and on since Romney became the last man standing.

And it's only going to get worse. Count your blessings that you are in Canada. I have the unfortunate pleasure of living in a "swing state", so get to see them at every commercial break. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.......... and over.

:ok:


Fire up your PVR, stock up on some decent single malt . . . My current favorite is a Bowmore  Islay 12year with a lovely smokey peaty flavour and then just enjoy the whole campaign..

The PVR allows you to skip the  ads and the single malt gets you through the news.



 
Thucydides said:
An Ad Hominem attack, several strawmen and totally avoiding the issue all in one response. Awesome job.

Well when you preface it with something so ridiculous, then it's hard to even pay much attention to anything else. The article, however, makes sweeping generalizations about Jewish political sentiments that I don't see backed with anything empirical. Are some Jewish voters unhappy with some of President Obama's first term? Perhaps. Are they going to vote against him in droves? I'm not sure. Does it, however, if one assumes the first statement to be somewhat true, make sense to make a point of highlighting the faults of the right as it relates to Jewish interests? Absolutely it does.

It is true that there were anti-semitic sentiments present in some of the Occupy mobs, but they're a fringe group and hardly can be construed as representing the interests of the Democratic Party. In cases where I've seen overt or subtle anti-semitism amongst them it's been coupled with a sentiment that the two parties are essentially the same and neither is worthy of support. The Democrats would do well to continue to marginalize those folks while pushing ahead with making clear that the GOP, especially the social conservatives amongst them, do not represent their interests.

I've never understood why Israel is such a big issue in American politics. It's labeled as America's "greatest ally" when it's done pretty much nothing that looks like that. It's a massive drain of US tax dollars (because massive amounts of foreign aid go to Israel, though most of it is really just subsidies to the defence industry), and it's treated as though it can do no wrong. Questioning Israel's approach to dealing with Palestinians gets automatically branded as "anti-semitism", even though large swathes of Israelis also don't agree with the current government there and the right wing's approach in general. It is rather than simply a disagreement over policy. Evangelicals in particular make a big deal over support for Israel. I don't see why Jews would be too happy about that - because their motives appear eschatology, focused on hastening the Second Coming, which doesn't really end well for Jews.
 
Haletown said:
My current favorite is a Bowmore  Islay 12year with a lovely smokey peaty flavour a

Well at least we can agree one something. I'm partial to Talisker as well. But I also like Dalwhinnie, a nice sweet highland, a great breakfast scotch.
 
Redeye said:
Well at least we can agree one something. I'm partial to Talisker as well. But I also like Dalwhinnie, a nice sweet highland, a great breakfast scotch.

You must take some long breakfasts ;)
 
Haletown said:
Fire up your PVR, stock up on some decent single malt . . . My current favorite is a Bowmore  Islay 12year with a lovely smokey peaty flavour and then just enjoy the whole campaign..

The PVR allows you to skip the  ads and the single malt gets you through the news.

I will keep that in mind.
 
Bill Kristol thows a flag, and questions Romney's understanding of the job.

Kristol questions Baker anecdote Romney reportedly told

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/07/kristol-questions-baker-anecdote-romney-reportedly-130034.html

William Kristol, who has been more critical of the campaign Mitt Romney is waging of late after a pause, raises a flag on a report earlier this week that the GOP hopeful has told donors a story about President Reagan and his approach to anything other than the economy in his first 100 days in office, describing the WSJ-reported anecdote as a "false and foolish tale."

His overall argument echoes that of a number of foreign policy hands who believe Romney needs to broaden his message and policy prescriptions beyond the economy. And the column comes as Romney is heading overseas today for a major trip. I've emailed the campaign but haven't heard back. Romney's team, as Kristol notes, hasn't questioned publicly the WSJ's reporting.

From the piece:

    Here's the reporting:

    Mr. Romney made that clear [that he's most focused on the economy] at a July fundraiser in Montana as he rehashed the challenges Mr. Reagan faced when he took office. He recounted how [James] Baker, a former secretary of state, held a national security meeting about Latin America during the first 100 days of Mr. Reagan’s presidency. “And after the meeting, President Reagan called me in and said, ‘I want no more national-security meetings over the next 100 days—all of our time has to be focused on getting our economy going,’” Mr. Romney recalled Mr. Baker saying.

    For one thing, as Marc Thiessen points out, the fact that Romney's recounting this anecdote doesn't reflect well on Romney's understanding of the job he's campaigning for:

    "Given the challenges a Romney administration will face – from a spiraling Syria to key decisions on the way forward in Afghanistan to dealing with Iran’s nuclear program and the threats from al Qaeda in Yemen and East Africa – it is unlikely Romney will have the luxury of ignoring foreign policy for his first 100 days....But the fact that Romney thinks it would be desirable to ignore the world for his first 100 days is troubling. Yes, the American people are focused on the economy – and understandably so. But Romney isn’t running for treasury secretary – he is running for Commander in Chief. And those responsibilities begin on Day 1 of his presidency."

    What's more, I can't believe the story is true. Or if Reagan did once say what Baker says he said, it was an expression of exasperation after one (presumably unsatisfactory) meeting that neither Reagan nor Baker followed through on. In fact, I'll buy Jim Baker a very good dinner next time he's in Washington if he or anyone else can find a 100-day stretch (or a ten-day stretch) of the Reagan presidency in which President Reagan was involved in no national security meetings. I encourage interested readers to research this eminently researchable topic, and e-mail us what you find at webeditor@weeklystandard.com. I was able to spend just a few minutes scrolling thought the Reagan Foundation's helpful account of President Reagan's daily schedule, and I see no week, let alone three months, in which President Reagan doesn't seem to have held some sort of national security and foreign policy meetings. To say nothing of the fact that he ran for the presidency highlighting national security issues, and was a historic president in large part because of his national security accomplishments

 
It looks like Mitt Romney has lost the high ground for criticizing Obama over leaks, while taking a dump on the real "special relationship"

Mitt Romney broke MI6 silence, according to reports

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/79036.html

Mitt Romney made another gaffe on his London trip Thursday by acknowledging he met with the head of Britain’s MI6 intelligence agency, according to reports.

Romney’s meeting with MI6 head Sir John Sawers was not on the Republican’s public schedule — and Romney made a major blunder by revealing it, CBS News and The Guardian reported.

“I can only say that I appreciated the insights and perspectives of the leaders of the government here and opposition here as well as the head of MI6 as we discussed Syria and the hope for a more peaceful future for that country,” Romney told reporters at a press conference Thursday.

Britain’s Foreign and Commonwealth Office told CBS News that “Sir John Sawers meets many people, but we don’t give a running commentary on any of these private meetings.”

As The Guardian pointed out, MI6 was not officially acknowledged until 1994. “For our American readership, this isn’t like bragging you just met David Petraeus. The British take on the national secret intelligence service comes with an extra-heavy dollop of the whole secret thing,” the Guardian’s Tom McCarthy
 
cupper said:
Seems that the GOP really does have an anti jobs agenda.

Typo in House jobs bill leaves 'un' out of 'unemployment'

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78928.html

BUSTED! ;D

Turns out that they even screwed up the correction.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/79013.html
 
>It looks like Mitt Romney has lost the high ground for criticizing Obama over leaks, while taking a dump on the real "special relationship"

And as the article spells out in excruciating detail, the leak was clearly not accidental.  Correct?
 
cupper said:
Turns out that they even screwed up the correction.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/79013.html

Right back at ya . . .  Obama can't spell Americans

"An executive order signed by President Barack Obama left some scratching their heads over its implications and a misspelling of “America.”

Obama, with Rev. Al Sharpton and other black leaders looking on, signed the executive order on Thursday, which created a special new federal office aimed at improving education for African Americans. The order also created a panel to foster “a positive school climate that does not rely on methods that result in disparate use of disciplinary tools.”

The order, titled “White House Initiative On Educational Excellence,” said, “African Americans lack equal access to highly effective teachers and principals, safe schools, and challenging college-preparatory classes, and they disproportionately experience school discipline and referrals to special education. African American student achievement not only lags behind that of their domestic peers by an average of two grade levels, but also behind students in almost every other developed nation.”

In announcing the initiative, the White House’s social media team misspelled the word “Americans” in a Facebook post, according to the New York Daily News. “Earlier today, President Obama signed an Executive Order establishing the White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Amerericans (sic),” the initial post said, according to the Daily News.

Read more on Newsmax.com: Misspelling, Questions Plague Obama Education Initiative
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http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-african-american-education/2012/07/27/id/446788


But he does know how to pronounce "Corpse man" because they are in all 57 States.


Now,  back to regular programming where President Obama's economic policies continue to devastate the American economy.


 
President Obama's needs a bigger bus . . .

"Obama, in fact, has never won an important political contest without aid of a decisive financial advantage, and in all his contests, that advantage came from Jews. Take Chicago billionaire Penny Pritzker, who with her cousins runs the family empire (Hyatt Hotels and casinos, among other enterprises). “Without Penny Pritzker, it is unlikely that Barack Obama ever would have been elected to the United States Senate or the presidency,” The New York Times states matter-of-factly, adding that the Pritzkers and the Obamas became close friends as well as political allies, spending weekends together at her summer home. Thanks to Pritzker’s endorsement, her connections in the Democratic Party, and her ability to raise funds from her Jewish circle and beyond, an unlikely candidate named Barack Obama became Senator Obama in 2004. Thanks to an all-out fundraising push by Pritzker, national finance chairwoman of Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, Obama catapulted ahead of Clinton in early 2008 and of McCain in late 2008.



Then, almost immediately after Election Day, she discovered that her wealth and her businesses made her dispensable — she was, in effect, Obama’s first victim among what would become known as the 1%. Obama wouldn’t appoint her Commerce Secretary, as she had expected, because he didn’t want to be seen appointing a fat cat. Obama’s union friends, who long reviled her hotel chain as an exploiter of housekeeping staff, renewed their attacks with extra gusto and in a personal way after Obama became president — they had gone easy on her prior to Obama’s election, following 2007 phone calls in which he warned them that she would be heading his fundraising team. To add insult to injury, Obama also dropped her from his inner circle of friends.

Pritzker — and numerous others in the Jewish elite that she had enlisted to bankroll Obama — also recoiled at his vilification of the 1% and at his high-handed, even rude, treatment of Israel and its prime minister, whom he pointedly disrespected."

Well maybe just space under the bus . . .

http://opinion.financialpost.com/2012/07/27/lawrence-solomon-romneys-israel-card/




 
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Election 'debates': making the Recruiting threads seem insightful.  ;D
 
The quote.

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America 's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies.

Increasing America 's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that,"the buck stops here.'

Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren.

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better.”

Who said it:

Mitt Romney, July 2012

Barack Obama  March 2006.
 
That goes well with Dick Cheney pointing out how because of Ronald Reagan deficits don't matter anymore. Maybe that has something to do with why I assign zero credibility to so-called conservatives. And little more to anyone else.
 
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