Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)
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So outside that he was appointed the special advisor to the LPC on finances this past fall... You know, just before they blew past their self imposed $40 billion deficit ceiling.
So "outside" he was the governor of two G7 national banks...
I believe he's an "outsider" based on his self declaration as much as I believe Bill Clinton "did not have sexual relations with that woman"...
Got Carney to admitOH!Pierre clubbed Carney.
Sounds like a snails pace at implementing this program, especially if the government hasn't signed any agreements with the provinces OR drug companies yet.
Sounds like you'll need a bit more time than you think you will, Mr. Holland...
Pretty controversial headline in the G&M from a few days ago…
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Conveniently forgot to mention a de facto downplaying of foreign interference, but ‘other than that’, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?
IKnowNothing
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A strong underlying premise- the challenges to Canadian voters relating to inter provincial trade and housing, completely undermined by trying to use it to defend JT. The article raises discussions that need to be had, but the headline and slant are a barrier to those conversations- see below:
Not to mention trying to give driveby credit to JT for Canadian's net worth gains without mentioning that it is by and large due to paper equity gains in principal residences.
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That's an interesting take, and ironic given Team Red's coach being seen as the only thing that doesn't seem to be a problem.
Also funny how different sides either love or hate the same great big pool of voters, depending on how they're leaning. The "idiots" of one round become the "the people have spoken" of the next.
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Doesn't matter if these were systemic problems from years past.
Doesn't matter if these were inherited problems from previous governments.
Doesn't matter if the global situation fell apart around you.
JT had a mandate from the Canadian people. He was given the full power of government to do something substantial to address the issues that affect them day to day. He had 9 years of that mandate. He fucked it up and continued to fuck it up spectacularly without listening to reason or dissenting opinion.
If it were Poilievre, Harper, Singh, Trump, or Putin, I'd be saying the same thing: you wear the consequences for your (in)actions while you are Skipper.
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Speaking of leadership…or lack thereof - The Big Cod makes a fair point of how Trudeau could (should) be remembered:
nationalpost.com
Rick Hillier: Justin Trudeau abandons Canada in its hour of need
We as a nation are left leaderless and the Trump administration can divide and conquer as it pleases
nationalpost.com
Jarnhamar
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Like Trump saying America First is racist and Kinsella saying Canada First is patriotic.
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Sometimes almost that flip-floppy, yeah.
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Add the fact that the PMO and Butts are running Carney's campaign.
Reported on CBC 2 hours ago:
"Mark Carney will launch his candidacy for the Liberal Party leadership at an event in Edmonton on Thursday, according to a notice from Calgary Skyview MP George Chahal".
OldSolduer
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Which is funny because America and Canada are both diverse societies.
It does make you wonder
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You're first sentence should be all, that educated Canadians need know to run as far away and as fast as possible from Carney & Co and keep running.
OldSolduer
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Gerald Butts seems not to work for Canadians but has another agenda.....whoever could be behind him?
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I don't know OS. All I know is that whatever he touches turns into rancid shit for Canadians. I'll lump the current trudeau PMO in there also.
Halifax Tar
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I guess we could have seen this coming
I wonder what he has planned next ?
I wonder what he has planned next ?
McG
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That’s not how Canadian government works. One of the dysfunctions of Canada’s Westminster System is that we invest too much in imagining our Prime Ministers to be like US presidents to the point that we expect our members of parliament to be the sheep of their respective party leaders, and the party leader rules supreme. We absolve our MPs of responsibility & accountability because we transfer it all to the party leader.
A prime minister has never appeared on the election ballots of more than a small minority of Canadian voters. Canadians do not give them a mandate. Prime ministers get a “mandate” by achieving confidence of Parliament. We would not be in our current situation if the Liberal caucus (not the Liberal Party) had fired him and selected a replacement when they should have. Proroguing for a third of a year while selection of a PM is deferred to a political party should never be an option.
Halifax Tar
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It's my understanding that the LPC has no mechanism to get oust a lame duck leader.
It's also my understanding that Trudeau is to thank for that as he adjusted their party constitution.
Lastly it's my belief we are now at least a year behind in forming a new Gov as the current one should have fallen some time ago, but it was propped up because narcissism and the NDP.
Trudeau and Singh have put us in a very precarious position. National unity and our economic future are all in question. And while I don't think they are treasonous, I think their stupidity and arrogance needs to be punished.
McG
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It’s not just a LPC thing to transfer parliamentarian responsibilities & authorities to unelected party processes. All the parties do it, and at all levels of government. The UCP fired Kenny and selected his replacement as premier external to the legislature.
And the parties and the media feed the narrative by making their campaigns all about their leaders.
Parties should be free to pick and choose who will lead into an election, and (if that individual wins their seat) caucus should initially accept that leader. But firing and replacement of leader between elections should be entirely the prerogative and responsibility of caucus.
No party constitution should be able to override that.
And the parties and the media feed the narrative by making their campaigns all about their leaders.
Parties should be free to pick and choose who will lead into an election, and (if that individual wins their seat) caucus should initially accept that leader. But firing and replacement of leader between elections should be entirely the prerogative and responsibility of caucus.
No party constitution should be able to override that.
