Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[daftandbarmy]

Do we not think Mark Carneys opening on whatever American talk show it is is a bit of an own goal as well?

I wonder what hourly rate he charged them

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Focused on four major crises-the Global Financial Crisis, the Global Health Crisis, Climate Change and the Fourth Industrial Revolution– Mark Carney shares his insights into lessons learned and economic opportunities that put people and planet first.

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[suffolkowner]

Say what now?

hes on john stewart

https://twitter.com/x/status/1879031076536070203

 

[suffolkowner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1879023962237382696

the full interview

 

[CBH99]

So I do admit, he is a lot more charismatic & charming than I expected. I hadn't seen him in a casual interview setting before.

But Trudeau was quite charismatic & likeable too, and look how he's turned out...


Bottom line - Carney is a huge champion of the carbon tax, opposes pipelines being built, openly states in the interview with Jon Stewart that he's basically against the oil & gas industry, and is a huge proponent of The Fourth Industrial Revolution (a very anti-human agenda first published by no other than the world's most high profile Nazi, Klaus Shwabb)

He's a high ranking member of the WEF, is connected to Chrystia Freeland in some pretty close ways (Godfather to her kids I believe?) and is basically a WEF globalist hack who will continue the path that Trudeau & Freeland have sent us down.

......

Remember folks, within 48 hours of being appointed to lead an economic task force (in which he is the only person on the task force) he promptly arranged for a $2 billion dollar loan to his buddy who owns Telesat.

He also suggested the country pay him $10 billion to run our pension funds for us.

 

[Maxman1]

Apparently he debated Poilievre in 2021.

 

[suffolkowner]

Apparently he debated Poilievre in 2021.

clubbed him like a baby seal

 

[ArmyRick]

clubbed him like a baby seal

Who clubbed who from your point of view?

 

[suffolkowner]

Who clubbed who from your point of view?

OH! Pierre clubbed Carney.

 

[Remius]

Apparently he debated Poilievre in 2021.

Not really a debate. You don’t debate when called to committee, you answer questions.

But I don’t think Carmey is going to be very good in any real debate.

 

[Czech_pivo]

So I do admit, he is a lot more charismatic & charming than I expected. I hadn't seen him in a casual interview setting before.

But Trudeau was quite charismatic & likeable too, and look how he's turned out...


Bottom line - Carney is a huge champion of the carbon tax, opposes pipelines being built, openly states in the interview with Jon Stewart that he's basically against the oil & gas industry, and is a huge proponent of The Fourth Industrial Revolution (a very anti-human agenda first published by no other than the world's most high profile Nazi, Klaus Shwabb)

He's a high ranking member of the WEF, is connected to Chrystia Freeland in some pretty close ways (Godfather to her kids I believe?) and is basically a WEF globalist hack who will continue the path that Trudeau & Freeland have sent us down.

......

Remember folks, within 48 hours of being appointed to lead an economic task force (in which he is the only person on the task force) he promptly arranged for a $2 billion dollar loan to his buddy who owns Telesat.

He also suggested the country pay him $10 billion to run our pension funds for us.

I think calling Klaus Schwabb a Nazi is a bit much. The mans' been awarded a prestigious prize by Israel in the past. What information made you come up with that label for him? If you are referring to his father - how is this different than Freeland and her Grandfather? Its been pointed out here that a child should not be held accountable for the sins of their father/grandfather. While I'm not overly 'happy' about Freeland's grandfather and his prior actions in WWII, I don't label her a Nazi or Nazi collaborator.

As for Telesat, its close to being the ONLY significantly large high tech firm that this country has left and I personally am not adverse to it receiving state sponsored support if it means that Canada has at least 1 remaining globally significant high tech company, especially in the field of space.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Not really a debate. You don’t debate when called to committee, you answer questions.

But I don’t think Carmey is going to be very good in any real debate.

Did you see him with John Stewart last night?

I think he will do fine in a debate. A debate is very different than a formulaic Q Period tit for tat.

There is also the fact that he has held actual positions of responsibility and authority, and run very large institutions.....

 

[Good2Golf]

As for Telesat, its close to being the ONLY significantly large high tech firm that this country has left and I personally am not adverse to it receiving state sponsored support if it means that Canada has at least 1 remaining globally significant high tech company, especially in the field of space.

I don’t disagree with the sentiment to some degree, but any state investment in private industry needs to be 100% transparently verified as not having any linkage whatsoever to adversarial influence. It can’t look like a good idea on the surface and have ties back through a chain of discrete paths to another state intent on controlling Canadian industrial expertise. I think there is reasonable enough grounds in the cases of *Nortel and RIM, that Canadians are justified in not being so quick to celebrate statements of intent to invest/increase influence of key industrial/technological elements of Canadian business.

 

[Quirky]

Did you see him with John Stewart last night?

I think he will do fine in a debate. A debate is very different than a formulaic Q Period tit for tat.

There is also the fact that he has held actual positions of responsibility and authority, and run very large institutions.....

There is one thing - he's a more capable human than any of the other Liberal front runners. Now onto what really matters, his policies...

 

[Remius]

Did you see him with John Stewart last night?

I haven’t yet but plan to.

I think he will do fine in a debate. A debate is very different than a formulaic Q Period tit for tat.

Agreed that it isn’t like QP. Remains to be seen though and open to the idea he could do ok. We’ll see in the leadership run what that could look like.

There is also the fact that he has held actual positions of responsibility and authority, and run very large institutions.....

I don’t question his credentials. I think he’s quite capable and to be honest might be the only real shot (albeit long) among the LPC contenders in a general election.

 

[Remius]

There is one thing - he's a more capable human than any of the other Liberal front runners. Now onto what really matters, his policies...

We’ll start seeing that in the leadership run. But unless he does a massive re-set on a lot of policy planks it will be a bigger hurdle to convince Canadians that he is the guy.

 

[daftandbarmy]

There is one thing - he's a more capable human than any of the other Liberal front runners. Now onto what really matters, his policies French ...

There, FTFY

Liberal officials say it’s ‘essential’ their next party leader is bilingual - National | Globalnews.ca

Current and former Liberal party officials, both French and English speakers, say the next Liberal leader replacing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau should be bilingual.

globalnews.ca

 

[dimsum]

Since Trudeau has officially resigned and there will be a leadership race soon, maybe the thread title isn’t that relevant anymore?

It’s probably a good time to close this thread and move on to the LPC Leadership Race thread?

Why yes, I created that thread

 

[Quirky]

There, FTFY

Liberal officials say it’s ‘essential’ their next party leader is bilingual - National | Globalnews.ca

Current and former Liberal party officials, both French and English speakers, say the next Liberal leader replacing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau should be bilingual.

globalnews.ca

Should be bilingual...not shall.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I don’t disagree with the sentiment to some degree, but any state investment in private industry needs to be 100% transparently verified as not having any linkage whatsoever to adversarial influence. It can’t look like a good idea on the surface and have ties back through a chain of discrete paths to another state intent on controlling Canadian industrial expertise. I think there is reasonable enough grounds in the cases of Norte and RIM, that Canadians are justified in not being so quick to celebrate statements of intent to invest/increase influence of key industrial/technological elements of Canadian business.

In the case of Nortel, they might still be around today if the Canadian government had taken a bit less of a 'hands off' approach with them and the ultimate Chinese role in their demise. Many, many a European/Asian and yes, American government have intervened in championing national firms and their economic wellbeing. It goes against ALOT of my business sense in saying that, but sometimes the 'state' needs to ensure that their various champions live to fight another day.

 

[IKnowNothing]

I think calling Klaus Schwabb a Nazi is a bit much. The mans' been awarded a prestigious prize by Israel in the past. What information made you come up with that label for him? If you are referring to his father - how is this different than Freeland and her Grandfather? Its been pointed out here that a child should not be held accountable for the sins of their father/grandfather.

The same sources that have taken a book identifying that the 4th industrial revolution was happening/about to happen, dispassionately discussing some of the potential societal impacts (good and bad) and advocating for whole of society involvement to try and shape things so that we don't get swept away and left with the bad outweighing the good and re-framed it for the gullible as an "anti-human" agenda initiated by a Nazi- aka the people that don't want the discussion happening.

There's a laundry list of reasons to be critical of WEF as an organization, but the transparent disinformation campaign aimed specifically at demonizing what amounts to someone waiving a yellow flag about where tech may take society is another -very concerning- thing entirely.