The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

[ballz]

I think I need a lawyer to interpret it, but I think Bill C-71 has built into it that if you own a restricted firearm and it is changed to prohibited, you are then eligible for a prohibited PAL.

"Grandfathered individuals — regulations
(9) An individual is eligible to hold a licence authorizing the individual to possess prohibited firearms of a prescribed class if the individual
(a) possesses one or more firearms of that class on a day that is prescribed with respect to that class;
(b) holds a registration certificate for one or more firearms of that class in the circumstances prescribed with respect to that class; and
(c) was continuously the holder of a registration certificate for one or more firearms of that class beginning on the day that is prescribed — or that is determined under the regulations — with respect to that class."

Tricksy Liberals, they aren't just using an OIC because they've ran out of time / are desperate, banning firearms by OIC was always their plan.....

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I wonder if this will create a new class of prohibs? Their original idea for prohibs was to class a number of poodle shooter pistols and their owners to 12.6. The idea was that in a couple of generations, they'd be done with prohibs by default death of the holders. If everyone that has AR types, get that 12.6 designation, they've just expanded the prohib base by thousands of people and guns....and years. The legal traffic/ market in prohibs will expand accordingly.

If they give out 12.6 that is.

If all they do, is switch the designation to 12.6, it'll make no difference to the owner. They'll still be able to take them to the range, etc just as now. Maybe they just want to be seen as tough, but it's all a word game. Prohibited 12.6 or restricted carry the same rules for transport and use, just a different class name. They get their publicity and they don't end up in a big confiscation fight with taxpayers.

 

[Cloud Cover]

The anti-gun lobby will see right through that, and hoist Trudeau by the nuts.

 

[BurnDoctor]

The anti-gun lobby will see right through that, and hoist Trudeau by the nuts.

The mention of a specific hoist point makes an assumption that may not be accurate.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Lol!!

 

[RocketRichard]

The anti-gun lobby will see right through that, and hoist Trudeau by the nuts.

Classy comment.


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[Jarnhamar]

RCMP Slows Printing Gun Licences, Fuelling Speculation of Bans

15 May 2019

TheGunBlog.ca — Canada’s federal agency in charge of gun licensing everyone from hunters and farmers to Olympic shooters said it slowed printing the permits because of “technical circumstances,” fuelling speculation new firearm bans are imminent.

“Due to technical circumstances, the Canadian Firearms Program (CFP) is producing firearms licence cards in a limited capacity between March 11 and June 7, 2019,” a spokeswoman for the Ottawa-based Royal Canadian Mounted Police told TheGunBlog.ca today by e-mail in response to questions.

https://thegunblog.ca/2019/05/15/rcmp-slows-printing-gun-licences-fuelling-speculation-of-bans/



The RCMP will "fix" their technical difficulties one day after the
Women Deliver conference that the Liberals are rumored to announce sweeping changes to firearm laws and ownership in Canada.

I'm sure its a coincidence.

 

[Jarnhamar]

 

[Loachman]

Link to original...?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Link to original...?

There is a link on the graphic.

 

[Lumber]

Jesus what did John Tory do? The spike started at almost the exact moment he got elected!  :cold:

 

[QV]

John Tory ended "carding", and he reduced the number of cops.  Seems like an appropriate result.


https://nationalpost.com/news/toronto/toronto-mayor-john-tory-announces-plans-to-permanently-end-carding

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/06/15/mayor-tory-rejects-idea-carding-ban-led-gun-violence/

 

[Jarnhamar]

Link to original...?

Thieved it from another site. OP is pretty solid with this stuff

 

[Cloud Cover]

Time to ban bananas...

 

[Haggis]

Bill C-71 just passed third reading in the Senate a few minutes ago.  It will receive Royal Assent tomorrow.

 

[Jarnhamar]

What's the worst fallout from C-71?

 

[Haggis]

What's the worst fallout from C-71?

The Liberals win a majority in October as a result of "making Canada safer".

 

[Jarnhamar]

https://globalnews.ca/news/5335558/feds-guns-clamp-down-hunt-people/


Forget for a minute that Bill Blair is telling us the RCMP and other police forces use guns "designed to hunt people", check out the blatant attempt at identity politics. Specifically, who he's trying to drum up support from.

“These weapons are for use in the battlefield, but too often they have been brought into our communities and used to target and kill law enforcement, women, members of the LGBTQ2S community, religious observers and children doing nothing more than attending class.

What garbage.

 

[Haggis]

What garbage.

Not garbage.  Strategy.  The Liberals control the narrative on gun control and are using the MSM to shape the battlespace in support of their ban(s).  The harsher the precursor condemnation of "weapons of war in our neighbourhoods in civilian hands" the harsher the ban(s) will be.  My prediction is that this will be so well sold that by mid-month they will be polling back in minority territory in most urban areas.

 

[Journeyman]

Strategy.  The Liberals control the narrative on gun control and are using the MSM to shape the battlespace...

And with every news story about a school/religious shooting in the US, the people most disposed to proclaim that Canadians are superior to Americans will buy in that 'something must be done' here.  Actual legal and statistical comparisons between the two countries are irrelevant.