Sooo When do I get to Jump out of a perfectly good Airplane!
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two points:
1) after you complete your trade training, prove your determination & capability to your chain of command, an opening for your Reserve unit becomes available, and they choose to give that opening to you.
2) there's no such thing as
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The odds of you jumping are not so good. In fac, cadets have more openinigs for airborne (personnal experience)
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You can jump out of a perfectly good airplane anytime you want - just look for parachuting school in the yellow pages. ;D
Focus on completing BMQ/SQ/BIQ before thinking of becoming a reserve superninjaparachutesniper. It's rare for reservists to be loaded on the basic para course, and any CO worth his appointment will take time in and performance as part of the criteria for recommending a course loading.
Focus on completing BMQ/SQ/BIQ before thinking of becoming a reserve superninjaparachutesniper. It's rare for reservists to be loaded on the basic para course, and any CO worth his appointment will take time in and performance as part of the criteria for recommending a course loading.
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Horse_Soldier said:
There is actually a Jump Course open to the Res this Fall, so it's not that rare. But yeah, talking about Jump courses before completing BMQ is putting the cart before the horse. Do your job, work hard, stay fit, and you'll likely get a shot at a position sometime in the future.
Good luck on course.
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Sounds familiar. At least the German ones came with an automatic ejection system, i.e. the JM's hand shoving you out the doorTCBF said:
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Sivad, as an ex-paratrooper I will try to be gentle.
First thing see if you even pass your BMQ first.
Second thing, try to maintain your fitness and achieve a level of professionalism that surpasses all the other young privates in your unit.
Third thing, IF, I say again IF you find yourself nominated for a basic para course crank up your personal PT a notch or two. Think cardio and upper body strength!
Fourth thing, pay attention to your instructors.(What they say could save your life!)
Last thing, if you make it this far, you still have to exit the plane. Watched one guy on my basic para who was in the running for top candidate and then froze in the door. Top candidate to RTU in record time.
While it's good to look to the future you have a few steps to go before boldly declaring yourself a paratrooper!
Any jumpers out there who feel I might have missed a step or two feel free to step up and add to this list!
First thing see if you even pass your BMQ first.
Second thing, try to maintain your fitness and achieve a level of professionalism that surpasses all the other young privates in your unit.
Third thing, IF, I say again IF you find yourself nominated for a basic para course crank up your personal PT a notch or two. Think cardio and upper body strength!
Fourth thing, pay attention to your instructors.(What they say could save your life!)
Last thing, if you make it this far, you still have to exit the plane. Watched one guy on my basic para who was in the running for top candidate and then froze in the door. Top candidate to RTU in record time.
While it's good to look to the future you have a few steps to go before boldly declaring yourself a paratrooper!
Any jumpers out there who feel I might have missed a step or two feel free to step up and add to this list!
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I would add only a couple of things to 2 Cdo's post:
Whilst maintaining yourself at a superior fitness level, try being a superior soldier. In YOUR case, you'll be a Private. Do what you're told cheerfully, to the best of your abilities ALWAYS, volunteer for lousy jobs CHEERFULLY. Forget the word "WHY", and the phrase "HOW COME" (unless seeking clarification regarding a procedure). Learn your trade THOROUGHLY, be proficient at ALL aspects of it, not just those that turn your crank.
I don't know how it works in the Reserve world, but a pretty safe bet is that any available vacancies are loaded by your unit on a merit basis - this means being a superbly fit thudf**k won't cut it.
Good luck - never lose sight of the end objective, but on a daily basis, deal with the smaller tactical bounds placed in front of you - one at a time, BMQ, SQ, etc, etc.
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Whilst maintaining yourself at a superior fitness level, try being a superior soldier. In YOUR case, you'll be a Private. Do what you're told cheerfully, to the best of your abilities ALWAYS, volunteer for lousy jobs CHEERFULLY. Forget the word "WHY", and the phrase "HOW COME" (unless seeking clarification regarding a procedure). Learn your trade THOROUGHLY, be proficient at ALL aspects of it, not just those that turn your crank.
I don't know how it works in the Reserve world, but a pretty safe bet is that any available vacancies are loaded by your unit on a merit basis - this means being a superbly fit thudf**k won't cut it.
Good luck - never lose sight of the end objective, but on a daily basis, deal with the smaller tactical bounds placed in front of you - one at a time, BMQ, SQ, etc, etc.
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I think you are not correct on that one. There are plenty jump qualified young troops in the 48th, as well as the other regiments in 32 BG, so the chances are good to get on one.
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In BW as well. However, tell me why everyone wants to do all these "commando" sort of like. The youth right now thinks that it's easy to get all these courses.
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paracowboy said:
Funny .... made me laugh.
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Every body wants to do it because they hear all the cool stories. They don't hear about the thump until it's too late. Then they learn about parts they never thought they owned as they do the count.
They probably don't hear about the guy ahead on the ramp that had 1 too many barleys the night before.
Amd if they are really lucky they won't find out what the Angel Walk is.
Cheers
They probably don't hear about the guy ahead on the ramp that had 1 too many barleys the night before.
Amd if they are really lucky they won't find out what the Angel Walk is.
Cheers
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1 Sgt. did,
that was over ten years ago.
The rest applied and got on the course, as did many other within the brigade.
Are you questioning me? Please elaborate your info, are you gaining this from valid information or old assumptions?
I will follow up shortly with stats from my regiment, please do the same.
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Vigilant said:
You are mistaken to think that only Cpls/PLQ qual'd troops get the Jump Course. Rank is not a requirement. The CO of the members unit has to recommend the member, and it is a competition, but there is NO REQUIREMENT TO BE A CPL OR ABOVE. Quit spreading wrong info - you don't know what you are talking about. I personally encouraged all my troops (some just barely out of BIQ) to ask for the course, and I bet some will get it. Why are you trying to discourage young troops with BS? Plus, haven't you ever heard of 'Don't ask, don't get'?
In the last few years, we have had around 5 or 6 guys go on the course, of those 2 or 3 of them were privates at the time.
To any Pte who wants the jump Course - ask for it, and keep asking for it. That, and follow the advice of those that have posted here that have some TI, especially those that actually are Para or Para qual'd (not me BTW), not some Medic from TO with 2 years in.
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I don't think I've been clear on my point and I would like to clarify.
First of all I'm not challenging anyone. I understand you guys have been in for a long time and I respect that.
That being said, I'm very interested in the jump course myself and have spoken to numerous people with wings, both from the QOR and other Regiments. This is from Privates up to Warrants.
Cpl is not a requirement for the course, nor is PLQ. However, from my discusions I have come to the understanding that your chances are not good if you are just a Private, untested and unknown. Most likely the position will go to someone who has been in for several years and taken more courses. They will most likely be a Cpl, and demonstrated commitment to the CF and the Unit through time served. They have most likely have been identified for their future potential and leadership for younger troops. The jump course has become like a reward to those who are keen and do well. This is due to the limited number of spots available.
Sometimes you get lucky and you do end up on top of the merit list. Even as a Reservist Private out of BIQ with 1 year in.
It has been insinuated and stated in other topics that it is easier to get on a jump course than as a Reservist. Having never been a cadet, I don't know that for a fact. Since the 48th have an active Cadet squad I wondered how many of the Privates in the 48th got their jump wings through that avenue.
I respect those who seek to test and better themselves and I especially understand how badly some people want to take the jump course. My posts have been in regard to the questions asked by a young member who has just been sworn in and wants to become a superJTF2sniperninja. I am support the statements that others have made, and fully agree that it is much better to focus on making yourself a better soldier and deserving of a course than asking "When is it going to be my turn".
I am not spreading wrong info, and I do know what I am talking about. I think this has just been a misunderstanding, and I hope that my point has been properly communicated.
First of all I'm not challenging anyone. I understand you guys have been in for a long time and I respect that.
That being said, I'm very interested in the jump course myself and have spoken to numerous people with wings, both from the QOR and other Regiments. This is from Privates up to Warrants.
Cpl is not a requirement for the course, nor is PLQ. However, from my discusions I have come to the understanding that your chances are not good if you are just a Private, untested and unknown. Most likely the position will go to someone who has been in for several years and taken more courses. They will most likely be a Cpl, and demonstrated commitment to the CF and the Unit through time served. They have most likely have been identified for their future potential and leadership for younger troops. The jump course has become like a reward to those who are keen and do well. This is due to the limited number of spots available.
Sometimes you get lucky and you do end up on top of the merit list. Even as a Reservist Private out of BIQ with 1 year in.
It has been insinuated and stated in other topics that it is easier to get on a jump course than as a Reservist. Having never been a cadet, I don't know that for a fact. Since the 48th have an active Cadet squad I wondered how many of the Privates in the 48th got their jump wings through that avenue.
I respect those who seek to test and better themselves and I especially understand how badly some people want to take the jump course. My posts have been in regard to the questions asked by a young member who has just been sworn in and wants to become a superJTF2sniperninja. I am support the statements that others have made, and fully agree that it is much better to focus on making yourself a better soldier and deserving of a course than asking "When is it going to be my turn".
I am not spreading wrong info, and I do know what I am talking about. I think this has just been a misunderstanding, and I hope that my point has been properly communicated.
