Our North - SSE Policy Update Megathread

[Blackadder1916]

PS - UxVs

How about UxPs? Uncrewed Plants?

If we expect cars, planes and ships to operate autonomously, or under remote supervision, why don't we expect the same from all of our distributed infrastructure? Pipelines and pumping stations commonly operate uncrewed. Supervision is remote. Maintenance is dispatched.

SCADA - Wikipedia

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Are you suggesting this as a solution to infrastructure deficiencies in Northern communities (particularly First Nations)?

Is the problem that there are no competent operators/maintainers* to manage the systems, or that there is no "system" as we in the south would recognize? If I want to put the kettle on for a cuppa or to take a shower or shave, all I have to do is turn a tap. If after that cuppa I have to take a leak or before the shower and shave I have need of the other "s" all I have to do is figuratively "pull the chain". While we may not have any personal connection to those who deliver our water or collect our excreta, the majority of Northerners in small communities still rely on a (hopefully more sophisticated) "honey wagon" to collect their piss and poo. How do you "uncrew" that?


* Or maybe they are scarce

https://www.gov.nu.ca/en/waterwastewater-systems-manager-re-advertised/14-508253

https://www.gov.nu.ca/en/wastewater-systems-operator-re-advertised/14-508106

 

[Kirkhill]

Are you suggesting this as a solution to infrastructure deficiencies in Northern communities (particularly First Nations)?

Is the problem that there are no competent operators/maintainers* to manage the systems, or that there is no "system" as we in the south would recognize? If I want to put the kettle on for a cuppa or to take a shower or shave, all I have to do is turn a tap. If after that cuppa I have to take a leak or before the shower and shave I have need of the other "s" all I have to do is figuratively "pull the chain". While we may not have any personal connection to those who deliver our water or collect our excreta, the majority of Northerners in small communities still rely on a (hopefully more sophisticated) "honey wagon" to collect their piss and poo. How do you "uncrew" that?


* Or maybe they are scarce

https://www.gov.nu.ca/en/waterwastewater-systems-manager-re-advertised/14-508253

https://www.gov.nu.ca/en/wastewater-systems-operator-re-advertised/14-508106

I'm suggesting that I installed complex systems in Alaska that were locally controlled by transient foreign labour. When problems arose remote supervision and troubleshooting were provided from Denmark.

No production time lost.

 

[YZT580]

I'm suggesting that I installed complex systems in Alaska that were locally controlled by transient foreign labour. When problems arose remote supervision and troubleshooting were provided from Denmark.

No production time lost.

I just did a quick google search of Nunavut. IMHO here is the problem in a nutshell. The Feds have invested almost 4 million dollars in studies of 6 communities in Nunavut. This was in 2024. I would be willing to bet that there are several previously commissioned reports and studies in a cabinet somewhere in OW. What this country desperately needs is someone to actually do something.

When the old hospital in Oakville built a new emergency services wing, one of the office managers called in maintenance about a paint job. The closet in the office hadn't been painted. the plant manager arrived with a painter to discuss the issue with the executive who had complained and pointed out to him that it wasn't part of the contract. They spent the next 15 or 20 minutes in discussion regarding whose budget would cover the costs only to be interrupted by the painter asking what was next as he had finished painting the closet.

Almost every problem brought up on this site could be solved if someone, who has the authority, would just get on with doing the job. Simplistic maybe but we would save a lot of money and aggravation in the long run

 

[quadrapiper]

Thoughts on a Canadian iteration of the USACE, with their first tasking being to the north?

 

[Kirkhill]

Thomas P. Barnett on Trump's new Monroe Doctrine

It is a long read. And worth it. Very much to the point re the Arctic, Alberta, Tariffs, the EU and Latin America.

An Expert in Grand Strategy Thinks Trump Is on to Something​

Do you want a future in which Canada defects to the EU, Russia rules the Arctic and China runs Latin America? That’s the default outcome of non-action.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/16/logic-trump-global-ambitions-canada-europe-greenland-00198656

 

[Kirkhill]

And just in case you missed the EU offer....

2 January 2025.

Why Canada should join the EU

Europe needs space and resources, Canada needs people. Let’s deal

www.economist.com

By the way. I distinguish between the JEF EU and the Brussels EU. Italy currently bends towards the JEF EU.

 

[Kirkhill]

If Barnett is right and both Trump and the EU want us then that is no bad thing.

I think I could make a business case for East West trade links if North South trade becomes too expensive.

How fast can we get a floating LNG terminal into Hudson's Bay?

How quickly can we get some nuclear reactors into the Uranium fields of Northern Saskatchewan to power data centers locally?

 

[CountDC]

with our government? 20 plus years to study and another 20 to start action. 100 years we can have it completed.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

with our government? 20 plus years to study and another 20 to start action. 100 years we can have it completed.

2012 from proposal submission to 2015 EA approval. FID 2018 and 2025 startup of the terminal. That's to build the terminal, LNG trains and pipeline LNG Canada - Wikipedia