Has this trial been approved yet? My understanding is that names of potential propects are being collected to determine the interest, then the decision on the trial will be made. The specific academic entry standards of academic math and one science will be deferred. But eventually before the NE course begins the applicant will receive the required courses so that the pre-requisites are met.
NCM Subsidized Education Plan (NCM SEP)
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As it stands right now they have lowered the education standards for entry into the NET trade. It is now grade 10 general math or higher and grade physics or higher. However, you must still score high enough on the CFAT. The reason we are tracking the applicants is to see if the lower standards are going to be acceptable for the trade. Nothing has been deferred.
Well my son has landed on the rock and was sworn in on Wed in HFX. They put the singles in a 2 bedroom apartment in a local hotel. Easy living for the young one I would think. Since it was all rush rush, my son won't get basic traing til the spring/summer, so he's doing a mini boot camp, if you will, for the next two weeks then flying home for two weeks and then school starts.
Unfortanatley he's out of luck on getting a military flight home, so he's gonna have to buck up and pay his own way back. He seems very happy with all that's happened so far and seems to be embracing the military, guess that comes from growing up in a military town, eh?
Unfortanatley he's out of luck on getting a military flight home, so he's gonna have to buck up and pay his own way back. He seems very happy with all that's happened so far and seems to be embracing the military, guess that comes from growing up in a military town, eh?
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Your son should be eligible for LTA (Leave Travel Assistance) to help defray costs associated with travel between his place of duty and the place of his next-of-kin (once per fiscal year, 1 Apr - 31 Mar). There are other conditions, but it's worth inquiring about. Where are you located?
Hello, I recently graduated from the Electronics Engineering Technician course (at a civilian approved college.)
I never signed up for NCM-SEP but I was interested in becoming a NET.
I have talked to four different recruiters, three of them gave me different answers and one could not answer me.
The recruiter at my college said I would get a $10k signing bonus and promotion when I signed up (as per the job description on forces.ca.) I've talked to this recruiter twice and he said the same thing.
The recruiter at the closest recruiting centre said that those numbers from the college recruiter were wrong and I'd have to start where all the regular NCMs start. I've talked to this recruiter twice, and it was the same thing.
The recruiter that I met with on a ship when it passed through for tours said that I'd be reimbursed my tuition and possibly get a promotion.
So my question is what kind of incentives are there for graduates of one of these programs already? Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction so I won't have to keep getting the run around from these recruiters.
I never signed up for NCM-SEP but I was interested in becoming a NET.
I have talked to four different recruiters, three of them gave me different answers and one could not answer me.
The recruiter at my college said I would get a $10k signing bonus and promotion when I signed up (as per the job description on forces.ca.) I've talked to this recruiter twice and he said the same thing.
The recruiter at the closest recruiting centre said that those numbers from the college recruiter were wrong and I'd have to start where all the regular NCMs start. I've talked to this recruiter twice, and it was the same thing.
The recruiter that I met with on a ship when it passed through for tours said that I'd be reimbursed my tuition and possibly get a promotion.
So my question is what kind of incentives are there for graduates of one of these programs already? Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction so I won't have to keep getting the run around from these recruiters.
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You MAY be entitled to a recruiting bonus. They are paid on completion of BMQ. If you have the education you get 10k if you have military skills in that trade you get 10k. If you have both you get 20k. 10k is paid on completion of BMQ and 10k on your one year mark.
What we do is we take all your diplomas and transcripts and send them to the Occupation Manager. They will decide what you get in the way of promotion and pay incentives. USUALLY if you come in with the same education that you would get if you went NCMSEP you would be enrolled as an Ordinary Seaman. After BMQ you NORMALLY get promoted to Leading Seaman and do trades training and environmental training. The CF will NOT reimburse your education. The 10k and promotion is to entice you to join. Once you are Tech qualified you will receive tech pay which is about $500 a month more that base pay.
Note the key words. It all depends on the Occupation Manager and what he decides.
What we do is we take all your diplomas and transcripts and send them to the Occupation Manager. They will decide what you get in the way of promotion and pay incentives. USUALLY if you come in with the same education that you would get if you went NCMSEP you would be enrolled as an Ordinary Seaman. After BMQ you NORMALLY get promoted to Leading Seaman and do trades training and environmental training. The CF will NOT reimburse your education. The 10k and promotion is to entice you to join. Once you are Tech qualified you will receive tech pay which is about $500 a month more that base pay.
Note the key words. It all depends on the Occupation Manager and what he decides.
I currently have a Bachelor of Arts degree as well as an Electronic Engineering Technician diploma from NSCC. Does anyone know in which trades I might qualify for a promotion after BMQ? I want to join the military, but to be honest, having to start out as a private at roughly $30000/year is not much of an incentive. I know the military isn't all about the money, and money is not the main reason I want to join, but my wife and I will be having a baby soon and I have to be realistic about this.
Any suggestions anyone?
Any suggestions anyone?
Hi, posting this to hopefully get some information. Thanks to anyone who replies!!
I am interested in applying to Algonquin College in Ottawa, for the Geomatics Technician program. I would prefer not to do the basic training this summer but still start school in September. Is that possible? If so when should I apply and if I do apply now, is there a chance I do go to basic training this summer? If so, when is the latest I could apply and still attend school in September. Also, I have smoked pot recently and was wondering what the drug testing is like and when it does occur. I have stopped smoking but it has only been a week. Any information on this would be great and thanks again for any replies.
Nick
I am interested in applying to Algonquin College in Ottawa, for the Geomatics Technician program. I would prefer not to do the basic training this summer but still start school in September. Is that possible? If so when should I apply and if I do apply now, is there a chance I do go to basic training this summer? If so, when is the latest I could apply and still attend school in September. Also, I have smoked pot recently and was wondering what the drug testing is like and when it does occur. I have stopped smoking but it has only been a week. Any information on this would be great and thanks again for any replies.
Nick
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I REALLY hope this is a misguided April Fool's joke ...
For the record, I'm PRETTY sure there IS no NCM SEP for Geo Tech, and if you smoke pot a week before applying to the Forces (or even a month before) we're going to make you go away and come back to apply later (I can't remember if it's six months or a year).
For the record, I'm PRETTY sure there IS no NCM SEP for Geo Tech, and if you smoke pot a week before applying to the Forces (or even a month before) we're going to make you go away and come back to apply later (I can't remember if it's six months or a year).
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Wait, what? You tell here in public that you smoked a blunt and wondering if you will get caught?
You're messed-up, man. Be serious about joining and stop taking that thing.
And good luck for your process... If it ain't a joke like the one above said it could be
You're messed-up, man. Be serious about joining and stop taking that thing.
And good luck for your process... If it ain't a joke like the one above said it could be
Alright, first of all, yes the geomatics program is subsidized as I have already spoken with a recruiter. About the pot, I didn't come here to be lectured on it. I guess neither of the two posters read that I have stopped. I am sure many members have smoked it at some point before they were enlisted. I also never stated I would continue smoking. I just want to know when the test is so I can apply soon and not fail the test.
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OK Nick, I'm going to say this as politely as I can ...
I AM a Recruiter. In fact, I am the Recruiter that keeps the paperwork up to date for all of the OTHER recruiters at CFRC Toronto.
I JUST finished updating the approved NCM-SEP course list last week, based on the March 2010 NCM SEP occupations list produced by CFRG (For anyone else who wants to know, Algonquin College and Conestoga have been added as approved programs for LCIS and ATIS) and if I were smarter I'd figure out how to attach it to this post ... but I'm not, so I can't. In any case ...
GEOMATICS TECHNICIAN does NOT have an approved NCM-SEP program. Maybe you've gotten the name of the trade wrong, maybe you've got the wrong program, maybe you've been talking to someone that wasn't actually a trained Recruiter or misunderstood something that's been told to you, but I guarantee we are not sending you to college if you join the CF as a Geo Tech.
As for your other rant, yes, I did read that you had stopped. I ALSO read where you said you smoked it RECENTLY. I did not lecture you about it in any way, I gave you the answer to your question ... if you come in, you tell us you smoked pot "recently" ... we're going to send you away for a set period of time.
You could lie and say you haven't, but we're going to find out, THEN you'll have a record for lying on your application to the CF.
Now, HERE's your lecture ... in the future, avoid bitching at the people trying to HELP you, or you won't GET any help after that ...
I AM a Recruiter. In fact, I am the Recruiter that keeps the paperwork up to date for all of the OTHER recruiters at CFRC Toronto.
I JUST finished updating the approved NCM-SEP course list last week, based on the March 2010 NCM SEP occupations list produced by CFRG (For anyone else who wants to know, Algonquin College and Conestoga have been added as approved programs for LCIS and ATIS) and if I were smarter I'd figure out how to attach it to this post ... but I'm not, so I can't. In any case ...
GEOMATICS TECHNICIAN does NOT have an approved NCM-SEP program. Maybe you've gotten the name of the trade wrong, maybe you've got the wrong program, maybe you've been talking to someone that wasn't actually a trained Recruiter or misunderstood something that's been told to you, but I guarantee we are not sending you to college if you join the CF as a Geo Tech.
As for your other rant, yes, I did read that you had stopped. I ALSO read where you said you smoked it RECENTLY. I did not lecture you about it in any way, I gave you the answer to your question ... if you come in, you tell us you smoked pot "recently" ... we're going to send you away for a set period of time.
You could lie and say you haven't, but we're going to find out, THEN you'll have a record for lying on your application to the CF.
Now, HERE's your lecture ... in the future, avoid bitching at the people trying to HELP you, or you won't GET any help after that ...
Ok, I may have been wrong however I do have a couple of links that I would like clarification on regarding this program.
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/pub/cfp-bpf/9-07/cfacpgtp-fccapcpt-eng.asp
http://www.algonquincollege.com/sat/cf/
If these are wrong, could you please let me know which programs they do offer at algonquin college?
Thanks for any info.
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/pub/cfp-bpf/9-07/cfacpgtp-fccapcpt-eng.asp
http://www.algonquincollege.com/sat/cf/
If these are wrong, could you please let me know which programs they do offer at algonquin college?
Thanks for any info.
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That page is from 2 years ago.
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On a related tangent to the original post, this is mainly directed to Otis, or anyone else in the know. I'm curious about the details behind "...or all apprenticeship requirements in a civilian trade."
If an applicant already is a civilian geomatics specialist, does that statement mean he could qualify for direct entry to GEO TECH?
In this instance I'd assume, probably naively, that beyond BMQ there is more army training eventually leading to geomatics training that would focus on context within the CF, on-the-job at the unit level. Algonquin's geomatics program seems to cover CF-specific content that you could not get elsewhere, so I'm curious...
If an applicant already is a civilian geomatics specialist, does that statement mean he could qualify for direct entry to GEO TECH?
In this instance I'd assume, probably naively, that beyond BMQ there is more army training eventually leading to geomatics training that would focus on context within the CF, on-the-job at the unit level. Algonquin's geomatics program seems to cover CF-specific content that you could not get elsewhere, so I'm curious...
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