Muslims Allege Racial Profiling for 2010 Olympic Security Positions

[krustyrl]

Here we go, curious to see what sort of thoughts and opinions are out there.  I think that if forever they failed any screening process they should in fact be denied this postion.
Especially in this day and age and also the fact that it is a Global Event and all the worlds eyes will be on Vancouver during this time.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/01/18/bc-olympic-security-profiling-allegations.html#socialcomments

 

[Edward Campbell]

The 2010 Olympics will be a target for some terrorist group or another, probably for several. Security matters. I sincerely hope that the RCMP's Integrated Security Unit is doing whatever is necessary to ensure that people in 'security' positions are trustworthy.

Being found 'not trustworthy for this position' is not the same as being declared an enemy - it is likely that many recent immigrants cannot, quickly, be cleared for sensitive jobs. A 1% rejection rate seems 'mild' to me; it suggests that 99% of the people who applied for jobs at the Olympics - many low paid and, therefore, attractive to newcomers - are 'trustworthy;' I think that number (99%) might be high.

 

[Rifleman62]

"Both men immigrants"

Welcome to Canada. How quickly they learn how things work here.

 

[krustyrl]

It's just that it irritates me to no end when the "trump-card" gets pulled in order to try and get what some want.
Moreso in this case.!

 

[OldSolduer]

Here's my take. This may take a while, so bear with me.
A couple of weeks ago, my wife and I went to the USA. Security procedures are stringent in Vancouver Airport when boarding a flight for the the US. Your belt comes off, all pockets emptied and EVERYONE is patted down, no exceptions.
My wife is 56, she is a grandmother and she got patted down like a terrorist. There were people much older than I being patted down as well. That offends me. :rage:
What ticks me off is that in the race to be "politically correct" or "inclusive" COMMON SENSE has been EXCLUDED! As for this person being denied employment at the Olympic Games, too freakin bad.
I think its high time we racially profiled. 56 year old grannies and 75 year old greatgrandads do not pose a threat.

My two cents.

I note that one of the whiners is from Somalia and spent time in Yemen as a child. The last guy who tried to blow up a plane spent time in Yemen

 

[Dean22]

Here's my take. This may take a while, so bear with me.
A couple of weeks ago, my wife and I went to the USA. Security procedures are stringent in Vancouver Airport when boarding a flight for the the US. Your belt comes off, all pockets emptied and EVERYONE is patted down, no exceptions.
My wife is 56, she is a grandmother and she got patted down like a terrorist. There were people much older than I being patted down as well. That offends me. :rage:
What ticks me off is that in the race to be "politically correct" or "inclusive" COMMON SENSE has been EXCLUDED! As for this person being denied employment at the Olympic Games, too freakin bad.
I think its high time we racially profiled. 56 year old grannies and 75 year old greatgrandads do not pose a threat.

My two cents.

I note that one of the whiners is from Somalia and spent time in Yemen as a child. The last guy who tried to blow up a plane spent time in Yemen

Are you serious? Religous/Racial/Age profiling is shooting yourself in the foot. Especially as a country with security concerns.

What about the U.S. terrorist attack by white muslims?
What about the rising white terrorists in the U.K.?

http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/AlQaeda39s-white-army-of-terror.3667425.jp

"HUNDREDS of British non-Muslims have been recruited by al-Qaeda to wage war against the West, senior security sources warned last night.
As many as 1,500 white Britons are believed to have converted to Islam for the purpose of funding, planning and carrying out surprise terror attacks inside the UK, according to one MI5 source."


Sure, let the 80 year old woman go pass she's old and a woman. There's no way she'll blow herself up.

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/article-1G1-160805247/female-suicide-bombers-global.html

 

[OldSolduer]

I'm sick and tired of these whiners, that's all. Common sense has taken a back seat to "political correctness". That's why the 80 year old grandparents get searched along with the twentysomethings. Its ridiculous. It serves no purpose other than the airlines and those who are responsible for the security to say "we are doing something".

 

[Edward Campbell]

Here's my take. This may take a while, so bear with me.
A couple of weeks ago, my wife and I went to the USA. Security procedures are stringent in Vancouver Airport when boarding a flight for the the US. Your belt comes off, all pockets emptied and EVERYONE is patted down, no exceptions.
My wife is 56, she is a grandmother and she got patted down like a terrorist. There were people much older than I being patted down as well. That offends me. :rage:
What ticks me off is that in the race to be "politically correct" or "inclusive" COMMON SENSE has been EXCLUDED! As for this person being denied employment at the Olympic Games, too freakin bad.
I think its high time we racially profiled. 56 year old grannies and 75 year old greatgrandads do not pose a threat.

My two cents.

I note that one of the whiners is from Somalia and spent time in Yemen as a child. The last guy who tried to blow up a plane spent time in Yemen

I have to disagree Big Silverback. Like you, I recently traveled to the USA; I was patted down and my (one, small) carry on bag was searched - thoroughly in both cases and I was gratified with the attention.

I am pushing 70 years of age but I do not doubt, for a second, that there are some neat, tidy, well dressed, Caucasian senior citizens out there who are enemies of the American led West and who are inclined to and, if we relax our total watch, will undertake the task of bombing an aircraft. I expect our security people to screen all of us, carefully and thoroughly and then go an extra mile with those who, by virtue of their profile, might be a tiny bit more suspicious.  The 'trick,' I think, is to be thorough and complete in every case and then be a bit more thorough with a few folks.

 

[mariomike]

My wife is 56, she is a grandmother and she got patted down like a terrorist. There were people much older than I being patted down as well. That offends me. :rage:

A Silver Cross Mother should be flying Air Canada for free in First Class. Same goes for Via Rail.

 

[OldSolduer]

A Silver Cross Mother should be flying Air Canada for free in First Class. Same goes for Via Rail.

Thank you.

 

[VIChris]

From the article:

If the two men want to know why they were rejected, they must send a letter to the RCMP's access to information co-ordinator in Ottawa, Cote said.

So the real reason is available, but rather than wait for it, the two guys jump to conclusions and make a stink in the press. Seems like the kind of level headed judgement we'd want in security screeners...

And who the hell would write an article without all the facts? I know, dumb question, my bad.

 

[Snakedoc]

A Silver Cross Mother should be flying Air Canada for free in First Class. Same goes for Via Rail.

I definitely wouldn't be opposed to this, however...

I think its high time we racially profiled.

Where's the common-sense in this?  Unless profiling is done with solid evidence, this is a slippery slope and exactly what the enemy wants from us.  They've disrupted travel and trade (through the sometimes ridiculous but increasingly necessary security measures we put up), and if we continue with things like racial profiling, thats an attack on our core values and the very make-up our country is built on.  The more of ourselves that we lose the more we become like them.... Unless I missed the tone of sarcasm in your comment, this is an area we need to tread very carefully in...

 

[Rifleman62]

Definition of Politically Correct
The following is the 2007 winning entry from an annual contest at Texas A&M University calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term.

The 2007 term was ‘Political Correctness”.

The winner wrote:

"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Big Silverback, I also totally disagree with you. Next time I get on a plane they can strip me and everyone else butt naked for all I care.
You do one, you do all.

I just wanna land.

 

[OldSolduer]

Big Silverback, I also totally disagree with you. Next time I get on a plane they can strip me and everyone else butt naked for all I care.
You do one, you do all.

I just wanna land.

I hear you Bruce, but resepctfully disagree. I want to land as well, but what is the purpose of the "no fly lists"? Apparently none as the Nigerian chap was on  it, but was allowed to board anyways.
I think the whole situation is absurd.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

I think you made my point about "do one, do all", as 'no fly lists' are certainly a joke.

Gee, I wanna risk my life on that none of those nasty folk know how to make fake ID......

 

[Nauticus]

Here's my take. This may take a while, so bear with me.
A couple of weeks ago, my wife and I went to the USA. Security procedures are stringent in Vancouver Airport when boarding a flight for the the US. Your belt comes off, all pockets emptied and EVERYONE is patted down, no exceptions.
My wife is 56, she is a grandmother and she got patted down like a terrorist. There were people much older than I being patted down as well. That offends me. :rage:
What ticks me off is that in the race to be "politically correct" or "inclusive" COMMON SENSE has been EXCLUDED! As for this person being denied employment at the Olympic Games, too freakin bad.
I think its high time we racially profiled. 56 year old grannies and 75 year old greatgrandads do not pose a threat.

My two cents.

I note that one of the whiners is from Somalia and spent time in Yemen as a child. The last guy who tried to blow up a plane spent time in Yemen

I disagree. Just because a former terrorist was from Yemen, doesn't mean you can start discriminating against all people from Yemen.

To be honest, I'm all for patting down everybody. Regardless of age, gender, race, etc, checking EVERYONE should in theory be more safe and more accurate than checking only randomly selected people. And if there's one thing we've learned, it's that you cannot be too safe when it comes to air travel.

 

[1feral1]

I think its high time we racially profiled.

I agree, enough of being PC, we know how how Israel's airline operates. EDITed to say, I too flew out of the USA on 4 Jan (just 9 or 10 days after the underwear bomber) from Logan in Boston. I was patted down and searched in detail, which I fully supported. All must be searched, but those racially proflied should have particular attention payed to them. A person's body language goes a long way.

I will conclude by saying, we are only as strong as our weakest link, whether its at an airport, or the Olympics. Many people in Canada feel Canada is loved worldwide by everyone, and no one would ever think of hurting us. We know this is wrong, but in the upcoming weeks, should an attempt of an attack take place or worse one be carried out, perhaps then will Canada as a whole come to terms with the reality of this war, and stop worrying about offending a minority. In my view the only ones concerned, are the ones with something to hide.

For the first time ever in my life, I was concerned for my flying safety.

OWDU

 

[Jarnhamar]

Everyone should be searched (hopefully by someone getting paid more than minimum wage).

People need to realize that if 9 out of 10 of the last airplane terrorist bombers were white males that surprise white males are bound to get the most attention.  Sure that 1 out of 10 might be a female asian but when you do the math bets are on the white males.

As respectful as I am to a 75 year old flying it's not acceptable to give them a free pass through security- They need to fall under the same security umbrella as everyone else.  At the same time people who's background falls in that 9 out of 10 merit extra attention.

"But that's racial profiling!"  It probably is but how offended would you be if that extra attention saved you your family and a few hundred others from getting blown out of the air?

If someone from the 9 out of 10 group doesn't like it they need to turn around and make more of an effort to sort out the bad apples and improve the name for themselves.

 

[FastEddy]

First of all, for our Home Grown Terrorist, any person regardless of Age, Race, Sex or Appearance is capable of Terrorist Acts, and for you unacquainted or involved with detection, may I point out that the Bomber is useally the most nondescript, Innocent looking person in the crowd, until he/she screams out "DEATH TO AMERICA.

You B***h and Complain if Security was not carried out or enforced.
You B***h and Complain if it is.

For those concerned about Racial or Religious Profiling just remember.

Not All Muslims are Terrorists.

But all Terrorists are Muslim.