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LPC leadership race - 2025

cough Jenni Byrne cough
Politically speaking, she’d be tougher & more ruthless than any of the enforcers on “The Sopranos,” “Goodfellas” and the entire Godfather franchise. Her tweet shaming a former party leader for wishing someone from Team Red all the best in their way out the door was a combat indicator. She strikes me very smart, dedicated & clever, but brutally cut throat in a way PP may find handy whenever he wants to take the high ground. Gerald Butts feels underhanded and sneaky, but I sense she’ll kick you in the nuts and ask the others in the room if they want some too.
So Mark Carney tried tried to deny any ties with the WEF when confronted by Alexa Lavoie of Rebel news. Not a good move, there is lots of videos of him speaking at the WEF.
Like Trump did? Even former Tory cabinet minister & currently sitting MP Michelle Rempel-Garner said she’s been to Davos & says they’re not eating babies there :)
 
Like Trump did? Even former Tory cabinet minister & currently sitting MP Michelle Rempel-Garner said she’s been to Davos & says they’re not eating babies there :)
Trump, don't care. Not my leader, I can never vote for him or not vote for him.

MRG going to Davos in the past is not a concern.

Its Carney, who has been to the WEF annual event at Davos several times (and he championed Canada's carbon tax), then trying to deny it? This is a major red flag in my books.
 
.... Its Carney, who has been to the WEF annual event at Davos several times (and he championed Canada's carbon tax), then trying to deny it? This is a major red flag in my books.
The denial IS pretty knuckle-headed, especially given the public record available, but better Canadians than Carney seem to have passed through the world domination gauntlet without being burned too badly.
 
The denial IS pretty knuckle-headed, especially given the public record available, but better Canadians than Carney seem to have passed through the world domination gauntlet without being burned too badly.
When Harper was involved, who knew what the WEF was? Like no one. MRG went two years ago (before PP banned the CPC) and admitted it, at least she is open about it.
Much of what I have heard Klaus Schwab say and what these so called global leaders say at these conferences really bothers me. When deciding policies for a nation, that needs to happen at our national parliament. If the governing party wants to exchange ideas and concepts from these elite gatherings then they should be fully transparent about it.

There is a reason many in Canadian politics don't want to touch the WEF anymore or be affiliated with it.
 
The denial IS pretty knuckle-headed, especially given the public record available, but better Canadians than Carney seem to have passed through the world domination gauntlet without being burned too badly.
Another way to put it, the WEF is a giant "good idea fairy" conference.
 
When Harper was involved, who knew what the WEF was? Like no one ...
WEF was one of the "New World Order" usual suspects well before 2014, but many who throw it out there now didn't worry so much when Harper & Co were in there participating. That said ...
Another way to put it, the WEF is a giant "good idea fairy" conference.
On that level, CANNOT disagree, and like anything from these sorts of gatherings of any stripe, should be taken with a grain of salt.
 
I am really looking forward to clearing out those folks from the PMO, but expect PP to just replace them with his own inner circle to do the same kind of shenanigans.
Yea this is a big issue in our system, these staffers are either zealots or the types that enjoy pulling the levers of power without heed of consequences. Quite a few staffers are quite mercantile and have worked across the board for whomever.
 
The denial IS pretty knuckle-headed, especially given the public record available, but better Canadians than Carney seem to have passed through the world domination gauntlet without being burned too badly.
I guess it depends what having ties is defined as. Does speaking there or being invited to speak mean one has ties to the WEF?
 
Yea this is a big issue in our system, these staffers are either zealots or the types that enjoy pulling the levers of power without heed of consequences. Quite a few staffers are quite mercantile and have worked across the board for whomever.
A certain city councillor that was running for the CPC before a DUI charge was liberal ministerial staffer before jumping into municipal politics. Sometimes people just want to be politicians and whatever wind is favouring whatever team is fine by them.
 
I guess it depends what having ties is defined as. Does speaking there or being invited to speak mean one has ties to the WEF?
More political Rorschach-ing, for sure.

Boosters of the participants'll say it won't have any effect, while haters'll say it can't NOT have an effect. Depends on how much you trust the participants in question, I guess.
A certain city councillor that was running for the CPC before a DUI charge was liberal ministerial staffer before jumping into municipal politics. Sometimes people just want to be politicians and whatever wind is favouring whatever team is fine by them.
At least one local politician in my area code is well known for such bandwagoning.
 
Yea this is a big issue in our system, these staffers are either zealots or the types that enjoy pulling the levers of power without heed of consequences. Quite a few staffers are quite mercantile and have worked across the board for whomever.
In a lot of ways, they seem to be making decisions that should be made by the different Ministeries based on advice from their SMEs, which is I think part of the inappropriate general concentration of power in the PMO. On paper, cabinet ministers have a lot of authority but in practice they've been increasingly overrun by PMO minions. Maybe was always going on, and I was just too juniour to understand, but the 'kids in short pants' seemed to have popped up during Harper and gotten more prevalent during Trudeau (and expect will continue under future Govs unless the PM specifically devolves back down).

Hard to tell, but it seems like the Brits have a more ingrained expectation that Cabinet ministers have some autonomy and real authority, as it seemed like there was a lot of pushback against people like Dominic Cummings during the Brexit debacle. Maybe a function of things being quiet, so there was opportunity for pollitical manuevering among the mandarins and staffers to consolidate backroom power? During the start of COVID, things like the contracting for vaccines and equipment seemed to have been really driven by the departments with minimal interference from the PMO, and similarly during Afgh a lot of things were exercised by MND and PSPC minister to expedite contracts.
 
Look forward to the leaders debate with PP and Carney.

Bets on how Carney will come across? Or who will win?

Regardless, if PP wins the media will DEMAND immediate results and do everything to discredit the PP/CPC especially when he starts cutting funding.
 
Look forward to the leaders debate with PP and Carney.

Bets on how Carney will come across? Or who will win?
In debate? I expect PP to be annoying like he did during his leaders debate. I expect carney to be uncomfortable and inexperienced at debating. I suspect PP would win a debate.

I expect anyone that say debates don’t matter suddenly decide they do.
Regardless, if PP wins the media will DEMAND immediate results and do everything to discredit the PP/CPC especially when he starts cutting funding.
I think the demand on what he would do has started now that the election topic seems to have shifted. I think that’s why he’s starting to add a bit more than slogans to what he’s saying. Polls are only sliding slightly but that can add up with time.
 
This is about climate change - but so are Mark Carney and Michael Bloomberg


Why Climate-Change Ideology Is Dying​

Voters have concluded that the private jet-flying alarmists don’t really believe their own claims.​


I don’t call any of this “hypocrisy,” because that term properly refers to the difference between private behavior and public words, and in the case of climate alarmism there is no attempt to hide the behavior or to make it match the words. So, for instance, the Defense Innovation Board, a group sponsored by the Pentagon and chaired by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, issued two studies this month recommending the reconstitution and strengthening of America’s defense industrial base. The reports have merit. But following all their recommendations would require the procurement of vast arrays of manufactured materials produced with natural gas, petrochemicals and coal. Meanwhile, Mr. Bloomberg oversees two nonprofit organizations, Beyond Coal and Beyond Petrochemicals, whose stated aim is to end the country’s use of natural gas, petrochemicals and coal.

Mr. Bloomberg isn’t embarrassed by the contradiction. He hasn’t tried to explain it, except indirectly in a vaguely worded Washington Post op-ed, co-authored with David H. Berger. “The technology needed to make today’s advanced military supplies,” Messrs. Bloomberg and Berger write, “relies on computer chips more than blast furnaces and on research labs more than assembly lines.” Sure. But it does rely on blast furnaces and power stations of the sort Mr. Bloomberg’s activist groups want to shut down. Which will make any thinking person wonder if he believes the catastrophism emitted by his nonprofits.


Mark Carney has been appointed to lead the Bloomberg board of directors by billionaire Michael Bloomberg. Photo by Chris Young/The Canadian Press
Mark Carney and Michael Bloomberg are co-chairs of the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero (GFANZ). They are both leaders in the fight against climate change.
 
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