King Charles III Coronation Medal

[PrairieFella]

You have to remember, that a military person, who has made it a career, will go on dozens, perhaps hundreds, of deployments as part of their "job". No one has the chest to accommodate the medals you are suggesting.

On the Civilian side, there are Provincial Awards. There are also National Awards, as well. Police, Corrections and Fire Services also have their Awards. All of these are medals. Civilians can also earn UN medals, as you mention later.


Yes. Unfortunately, you are correct there. At the same time, they are getting a 'higher' award that is meeting criteria that lower ranks may not meet.

If you are wondering about the criteria set for Canadian Honours, Medals and Awards, here are a couple Government of Canada links, and you may find that some of your concerns about creating awards, those criteria have already been created:

Medals and awards - Canada.ca

Canadian military honours and recognition, orders, decorations, medals, insignia, departmental awards and memorials.

www.canada.ca

Canadian Medals Chart - Canada.ca

This chart shows the sequence to wear modern Canadian orders, decorations and medals.

www.canada.ca

I have no idea in which world it's possible for a soldier to do hundreds of deployments. I get serving since Centurion was a rank not a tank but man, we both know that's impossible.

 

[foresterab]

Was curious as I know few folks who received the Queen's Diamond Jubilee in recognition for service. All had at least 40 years active and in one case 50 years with half still active and then in turn received theirs through provincial nomination processes. So looked around to see what other areas were doing.

Australia awarded 10 King Charles Coronation Medals - all to holders of the VC or Cross of Valor

King Charles III Coronation Medal Presentation

King Charles III Coronation Medal Presentation on the Government House Queensland website.

www.govhouse.qld.gov.au

New Zealand had some personal involved with Coronation ceremony but permission to wear the medal awarded needs permission as it's considered a foreign award due to being British.

Canada has some who will be awarded the British medal due to participation in the Coronation ceremony....I did however read over 7,000 people were involved including police/fire/armed forces.

And then the bulk of the 400,000 medals issued in the UK to :

1. The medal is also due to be given to serving frontline members of the Armed Forces, police, fire, emergency services and prison services who have completed five full calendar years of service.
2. Living individual recipients of the George Cross or of the Victoria Cross will also be recognised.
3. It appears military veterans with enough years of service are also eligible to apply (not automatic issuance)

Of additional interest it appears the UK issued 120,000 medals to commemorate the Coronation of Queen Elizabeth in 1952.

 

[Maxman1]

No reason ribbons couldn't be worn on street operations with the uniform we used to wear, if they felt the need to do so...

So just like Commissionaires.

 

[mariomike]

So just like Commissionaires.

Right.

Especially if one considers Canadian Corps of Commisionaires security guards "just like" municipal emergency services.

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[Maxman1]

Right.

Especially if one considers Canadian Corps of Commisionaires security guards "just like" municipal emergency services.

Bump off, you know what I mean.

 

[CountDC]

Now, I don't agree with that. That, in my opinion is going way overboard. After all, that is what the CD is. You have just reduced the time, to create a redundant award, and a "Gimme". I even have a bit of a problem with what is now considered a Veteran that includes people, who in extreme cases, "signed on the "Dotted Line" and quite two days later".

Don't know where that definition of veteran is from. VAC requires completion of basic training to be considered a vet. legion used to require 1 year of service before they would certify a member as a vet eligible to obtain the vet license plate - has that changed?

"Still On PAT" bar for SSM..."Spent my whole career in CFRG...As a Recruit" bar to the CD, with say a different coloured ribbon?

I knew of a mbr that had a CD and only completed basic training. Never completed a trade course.

Without being convicted.

Thank you - I point this out every time someone mentions I went with undetected crimes. Sometimes things are detected but members are not charged or convicted.

Military Combat/Valor recognition. My only knock on these is that Canada seems to recognize general staff/SNCO's disproportionally to enlisted personelle

To be a bit picky SNCO's are enlisted members that are the rank of Sgt.

You have to remember, that a military person, who has made it a career, will go on dozens, perhaps hundreds, of deployments as part of their "job". No one has the chest to accommodate the medals you are suggesting.

Ummm - I have volunteered for deployments but the CAF has always decided my services were needed else where. Closest I got to a deployment was when they offered a 1 year unaccompanied when I was no longer looking for one of them and applied for a 4 year accompanied outcan. Politely replied that the 1 years were no longer my thing and that they should have taken me up on them during the 30 years I had volunteered.

I have to admit I am a bit torn on the short service medal idea considering I was already jaded some on the CD. If you do the match on a CD a member of the regular force will do 4380 to get it while a reservist by regulations that are not enforced only needs 144 half days (with the way some units operate you could get away with a lot less). Perhaps a Short Service Medal with something to distinguish between reserve and regular? Colour or bar with RES/REG?

Fully support a DOMOPS medal especially with the governments at all levels continuously leaning more and more on the military for assistance for them instead of properly funding other agencies that should be in place to deal with them.

For commemorative medals they absolutely should be given to everyone serving on the day of the event it is for.

 

[PrairieFella]

Don't know where that definition of veteran is from. VAC requires completion of basic training to be considered a vet. legion used to require 1 year of service before they would certify a member as a vet eligible to obtain the vet license plate - has that changed?

I knew of a mbr that had a CD and only completed basic training. Never completed a trade course.


Thank you - I point this out every time someone mentions I went with undetected crimes. Sometimes things are detected but members are not charged or convicted.

To be a bit picky SNCO's are enlisted members that are the rank of Sgt.

Ummm - I have volunteered for deployments but the CAF has always decided my services were needed else where. Closest I got to a deployment was when they offered a 1 year unaccompanied when I was no longer looking for one of them and applied for a 4 year accompanied outcan. Politely replied that the 1 years were no longer my thing and that they should have taken me up on them during the 30 years I had volunteered.

I have to admit I am a bit torn on the short service medal idea considering I was already jaded some on the CD. If you do the match on a CD a member of the regular force will do 4380 to get it while a reservist by regulations that are not enforced only needs 144 half days (with the way some units operate you could get away with a lot less). Perhaps a Short Service Medal with something to distinguish between reserve and regular? Colour or bar with RES/REG?

Fully support a DOMOPS medal especially with the governments at all levels continuously leaning more and more on the military for assistance for them instead of properly funding other agencies that should be in place to deal with them.

For commemorative medals they absolutely should be given to everyone serving on the day of the event it is for.

Different recognition for the Reg and Res is fine and dandy until you have to look a long-term reservist with several combat tours in Afghanistan in the face and tell him his service is worth less than the Reg purple trade dude with zero deployments and that his awards should reflect that fact for all to see.

Exaggeration sure, but you get my point.

 

[CountDC]

Different recognition for the Reg and Res is fine and dandy until you have to look a long-term reservist with several combat tours in Afghanistan in the face and tell him his service is worth less than the Reg purple trade dude with zero deployments and that his awards should reflect that fact for all to see.

Exaggeration sure, but you get my point.

Except he will have the medal and bars recognizing him for the combat tours which the reg guy doesn't have and the CD doesn't recognize him for.

 

[Remius]

Just don’t have a reserve or a regular force version and just make it time based and create a shorter term service medal that gets replaced when you qualify for a CD.

 

[medicineman]

Just don’t have a reserve or a regular force version and just make it time based and create a shorter term service medal that gets replaced when you qualify for a CD.

But...but...that might mean fewer gongs for those whose egos depend on them though .

[sarcasm]

 

[Remius]

Or even better. Change the current requirements for the CD to 5 years of paid service and put the 1st bar when you get to 12 years.

0 cost except the staff work to change the eligibility.

 

[dapaterson]

Better yet, stop the stupid dick swinging contests, stop thinking that eating dirt for six months makes you better than someone whose career kept you paid, fed and equipped, and grow up.

 

[PrairieFella]

Better yet, stop the stupid dick swinging contests, stop thinking that eating dirt for six months makes you better than someone whose career kept you paid, fed and equipped, and grow up.

I don't think anyone here is saying anything along those lines?

 

[dapaterson]

I don't think anyone here is saying anything along those lines?

Different recognition for the Reg and Res is fine and dandy until you have to look a long-term reservist with several combat tours in Afghanistan in the face and tell him his service is worth less than the Reg purple trade dude with zero deployments and that his awards should reflect that fact for all to see.

Exaggeration sure, but you get my point.

 

[PrairieFella]

I think if you reread my comment you'll see I'm actually agreeing with the spirit of your comment lol. Ie it's not a dick-measuring contest, I was highlighting that a reservist's service is just as valuable as a reg's and that perhaps it would be poor optics to have reservists arbitrarily wearing different awards and decorations for the simple fact that they're a reservist. It's a bit of an exaggeration on my part but I still have about a dozen combat vets in my reserve unit, so only a bit of an exaggeration.

I touched a nerve on this one lol.

 

[Remius]

I think if you reread my comment you'll see I'm actually agreeing with the spirit of your comment lol. Ie it's not a dick-measuring contest, I was highlighting that a reservist's service is just as valuable as a reg's and that perhaps it would be poor optics to have reservists arbitrarily wearing different awards and decorations for the simple fact that they're a reservist. It's a bit of an exaggeration on my part but I still have about a dozen combat vets in my reserve unit, so only a bit of an exaggeration.

I touched a nerve on this one lol.

Interestingly enough a lot of reg force guys would be able to wear reservist bling if it was a thing.