Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Czech_pivo]

“…22 year-old CF-104 Starfighter jets are rolled out on their way to the weekly bombing exercise, the old fleet is racked with maintenance problems…”

41-year old CF-18: “There, there, kiddo…ya done good! Take a well-earned rest now…”

55-year old CH-124 chimes in from the rocking chair - 'Eh, did you say something, I thought I heard someone speaking....'

 

[daftandbarmy]

55-year old CH-124 chimes in from the rocking chair - 'Eh, did you say something, I thought I heard someone speaking....'

Meanwhile, the 65+, and 75+ year old machine guns enter the chat

FN MAG - Wikipedia

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M2 Browning - Wikipedia

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[MilEME09]

Meanwhile, the 65+, and 75+ year old machine guns enter the chat

FN MAG - Wikipedia

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M2 Browning - Wikipedia

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Find me a weapon that does what the .50 does better. We tried with the C16 GMG, that's a dud so they brought the 50 back.

 

[OldSolduer]

Find me a weapon that does what the .50 does better. We tried with the C16 GMG, that's a dud so they brought the 50 back.

It was a toss up between the C6 SF and the .50 HMG for me. I thoroughly enjoyed firing and controlling the fire of both.

The sound of a well maintained, head spaced and timed .50 is absolutely awesome!!!

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Find me a weapon that does what the .50 does better. We tried with the C16 GMG, that's a dud so they brought the 50 back.

This?

 

[Kirkhill]

A 2% FLOOR......

2.5 to 3% Target.

The price of admission.

“Prior to the the invasion [of Ukraine] we were approximately spending 1.35 percent of our GDP on defense but this year we will reach 2 percent,” said Aastrup Jensen. “In a very short amount of time we have reached the floor, because we are fully agreeing that this should be the floor not the ceiling. If NATO and allies agree [at the Vilnius Summit] a higher target of 2.5 or 3 percent we have already stated that we will also reach that as soon as possible.”

Denmark considering military submarines after almost 20 year gap: Danish lawmaker​

The Scandinavian nation divested of submarines in 2004 but lawmakers are actively considering whether to acquire them again.​

By TIM MARTINon June 12, 2023 at 2:31 PM


BELFAST — Denmark could be on the way to procuring new submarines as it looks to bolster maritime capabilities and deter Baltic Sea expeditions by Moscow.

The Scandinavian nation divested its fleet of submarines in 2004 but lawmakers are actively considering whether to acquire them again or rely on “close cooperation” with “friends” to deliver such capability, according to Michael Aastrup Jensen, chair of Denmark’s foreign policy committee.
He said during a Hudson Institute event today in Washington that the submarine discussions are happening “right now” as part of a wider political examination of future Danish defense requirements.

“Denmark is very strategic, meaning that all Russian Navy vessels have to sail through our waters if they come out from St. Petersburg or Kaliningrad and therefore we need to beef up our defense in depth, which is a completely new awakening for us,” said Aastrup Jensen.
In 2022, Copenhagen pledged investment of 40 billion Kroner ($58 million) for new naval ships to be built “within the coming years” and at the same time committed to developing a stronger “security of supply” with national maritime suppliers.

The latest submarine discussions coincide with the Royal Danish Navy close to announcing a replacement for ocean patrol vessels under the Thetis‐class frigate replacement program. A decision is expected imminently as part of Denmark’s most recent Defence Agreement — a document setting out a list of capabilities to be acquired over a ten year period.

The war in Ukraine has triggered a wide range of changes in Denmark’s defense posture, not least a June 2022 referendum ending the country’s European Union opt-out clause from security and military matters. Efforts to increase defense spending have been significant too.

“Prior to the the invasion [of Ukraine] we were approximately spending 1.35 percent of our GDP on defense but this year we will reach 2 percent,” said Aastrup Jensen. “In a very short amount of time we have reached the floor, because we are fully agreeing that this should be the floor not the ceiling. If NATO and allies agree [at the Vilnius Summit] a higher target of 2.5 or 3 percent we have already stated that we will also reach that as soon as possible.”

Copenhagen is also part of the European Leopard main battle tank coalition and has agreed to donate 19 Caesar artillery systems to Ukraine. More recently it has backed plans for F-16 fighter jets to be sent to Kyiv.

Aastrup Jensen said that surplus F-16s belonging to the Danish Air Force would be available to send to Ukraine once F-35A deliveries begin this fall, but he argued that it had taken far too long for the Biden administration to approve a decision allowing allies to train Ukrainian troops on the fourth generation jet.

“It is my intention and I think with broad support in parliament, that we can start up the training of F-16 teams, and thereafter a supply of F-16s to Ukraine,” added Aastrup Jensen. “Ukrainians have so much courage … but they need air power.”

 

[KevinB]

A 2% FLOOR......

2.5 to 3% Target.

The price of admission.

It was always the floor, but prior to the Russian Invasion of Ukraine it wasn’t realy followed through with.

Canada better buckle up.

 

[Good2Golf]

It was always the floor, but prior to the Russian Invasion of Ukraine it wasn’t realy followed through with.

Canada better buckle up.

Well, there’s at least that $15B that Canada currently says is too hard for the thousands of newly-hired CRA public servants to recover from unqualified CERB recipients…

 

[Kirkhill]

Well, there’s at least that $15B that Canada currently says is too hard for the thousands of newly-hired CRA public servants to recover from unqualified CERB recipients…

I have always been fascinated by hay - as in the amount of hay eaten by the horses that hauled the hay for the horses at the front to eat.

 

[OldSolduer]

It was always the floor, but prior to the Russian Invasion of Ukraine it wasn’t realy followed through with.

Canada better buckle up.

But we have soooo many social programs to fund!!!

And colourful socks of course. And a smug look.

 

[Dana381]

I have always been fascinated by hay - as in the amount of hay eaten by the horses that hauled the hay for the horses at the front to eat.

That reminds me of the operation Black buck refueling plan https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe....svg/800px-Refuelling.plan.black.buck.svg.png

 

[Czech_pivo]

NATO/ Sekretarz generalny Stoltenberg: oczekuję, że podczas szczytu w Wilnie sojusznicy zobowiążą się do podwyższenia wydatków na obronę#PAPInformacje

Basically translates to be: 'The expectations are for allies to commit to an increase in defence spending at the Vilna Summit.'

Let's see how Trudeau and team manages to deflect and ignore this call yet again.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Israel says it has a European customer for their Merkava 3, to replace tanks donated to Ukraine. So some of our serving members might get a good close up look at these.

 

[Czech_pivo]

NATO/ Sekretarz generalny Stoltenberg: oczekuję, że podczas szczytu w Wilnie sojusznicy zobowiążą się do podwyższenia wydatków na obronę#PAPInformacje

Basically translates to be: 'The expectations are for allies to commit to an increase in defence spending at the Vilna Summit.'

Let's see how Trudeau and team manages to deflect and ignore this call yet again.

And cue Trudeau prepping for the NATO meeting in Vilna.

Canada to add 15 Leopard tanks, 130 troops to NATO battlegroup in Latvia​

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12 month timeframe to ship over 15 tanks, associated maintenance vehicles and 130 people, unreal, pathetic.

 

[OldSolduer]

12 month timeframe to ship over 15 tanks, associated maintenance vehicles and 130 people, unreal, pathetic.

It is pathetic. How long would it take to ship 15 tanks IF the CAF was properly staffed and equipped?

I'm guessing maybe a month.

 

[Maxman1]

A Mistral class amphibious assault ship can carry 40 Leclerc tanks, but they have transported M1 Abrams in the past.

 

[WLSC]

12 month timeframe to ship over 15 tanks, associated maintenance vehicles and 130 people, unreal, pathetic

How long did it take to prepare and 10 tanks for Ukraine?

 

[FJAG]

It is pathetic. How long would it take to ship 15 tanks IF the CAF was properly staffed and equipped?

I'm guessing maybe a month.

For Afghanistan the request was made early in September 2006. The government approved the deployment of a 15 tank squadron and an armoured engineer troop on the 15th of September. The first tank arrived in theatre on the 3rd of October. The tanks were originally ready to forward deploy in November but the Dutch commander of ISAF RC(S) held that up until Lavoie, coming back from HTLA, convinced him that a 105mm round from a tank was a kinder and gentler way of dealing with strongpoints than a 155mm HE or a 500 lb bomb. With ISAF approval granted, the tanks forward deployed on 2 Dec 2006.

 

[markppcli]

I was going to post this in the Ukraine war thread as the YouTube video that linked it stated this is what the Ukraine's will be facing when they start their Offensive.

But IMHO, thought the video may be more appropriate here.

Think the CAF could do this? Dream on.

We literally validate doing this all the time

 

[daftandbarmy]

We literally validate doing this all the time

And it's f*cking impressive to watch ....