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High school students flunk O Canada

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High school students flunk O Canada

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When it comes to Canada's national anthem, only 67 per cent of Canadian high school students know the words — and even fewer can hum along, suggests a survey done by the University of Victoria.

The survey found more than 30 per cent of teens do not know the lyrics to O Canada, while only 46 per cent could sing it with fewer than two melodic errors, according to study author Mary Kennedy.

Kennedy, who is an associate professor of music education at the University of Victoria, said the findings are particularly troubling because the students in the sample were all members of school choirs.

"It's very discouraging. These results are all the more disturbing due to the fact that students in the sample were enrolled in secondary choral classes where they received regular instruction in singing and had more opportunity than others to perform the anthem at various events," said Kennedy.

"What might this say of other students who do not sing in school choirs?" she asked in a statement released by the university on Wednesday.

Kennedy suggests there are many reasons for the poor results, including the limited number of opportunities students now have to learn and sing the anthem.

"Many high schools no longer play or teach the anthem. It's sad when the only exposure Canadian children have to the anthem is at hockey games, where the anthem is usually sung by a soloist.

"It's also plausible that the lack of consistent musical training guided by specialist teachers could also be a factor in the students' inability to sing the anthem with proficiency."

Kennedy said many students mangle the words, changing "thee" to "the," swapping "thy" for "our," and in some cases even paying homage to "our home and nature land" instead of "native land."

Newfoundland high school choir students were the stars of the national study, while Quebec students hit a real sour note.

Kennedy completed the study just prior to the 2010 Vancouver Olympics, which she believes gave Canadians a new sense of pride in their national identity. She said she is now eager to re-test the students to see if their knowledge has improved as a result of hearing the anthem so many times during the Games.

The study involved a cross-Canada sampling of 275 high school choral students representing 12 schools in six provinces. Here's how they rated:

Lyrics ratings:

    * Newfoundland, 87%
    * Alberta, 83%
    * British Columbia, 76%
    * Ontario, 65%
    * Manitoba, 57%
    * Quebec, 36%

Melody ratings:

    * Manitoba, 62%
    * Newfoundland, 60%
    * Ontario, 50%
    * Alberta, 39%
    * Quebec, 28%
    * British Columbia, 27%

 
That is pretty sad; what even sadder is that some parents want to ban national anthem in schools
 
That's very sad. 

When I was in elementary school we HAD to sing every morning when they played the anthem before the announcements.  I remember one particular teacher one year who, if she saw that you were not singing, would make you sing by yourself in front of the rest of the class after the announcements. 

And even still, in French class we also HAD to learn the lyrics en francais.  Kids today  ::) 
 
Now is this the weird Bilingual version where they switch languages for each verse (like in hockey games) or just unilingual depending on location (french in Quebec, english in Newfoundland etc.) Cause I'll admit, while I accurately sing O Canada in english, I don't know the french words. So I can see it if they are doing the bilingual version and kids are muddling through the verse thats not their language. (though from reading the article that may not be the case as they seem to be messing english words and messing up the melody I cannot understand at all. Its a fairly simple melody)
 
cn said:
That's very sad. 

When I was in elementary school we HAD to sing every morning when they played the anthem before the announcements.  I remember one particular teacher one year who, if she saw that you were not singing, would make you sing by yourself in front of the rest of the class after the announcements. 

And even still, in French class we also HAD to learn the lyrics en francais.  Kids today  ::)

This reminded of when I first came to Canada. I was a little 13 years old french girl from France... didn't know a word of English but my parents wanted me to be in an English school.
When arriving in the first class of the day, every single morning, we stood up and with the right hand on the heart, had to sing the O Canada...

This is were my Canadian roots started to grow in this wonderful country's soil  :nod:

Alea
 
It's changed so many times in the last few decades that I cannot remember what the official words are, either. I've given up. A lot of them don't apply to me in any case - it's not my "native land" for one.
 
DexOlesa said:
Now is this the weird Bilingual version where they switch languages for each verse (like in hockey games) or just unilingual depending on location (french in Quebec, english in Newfoundland etc.) Cause I'll admit, while I accurately sing O Canada in english, I don't know the french words. So I can see it if they are doing the bilingual version and kids are muddling through the verse thats not their language. (though from reading the article that may not be the case as they seem to be messing english words and messing up the melody I cannot understand at all. Its a fairly simple melody)

It would be interesting to know exactly "which" version they polled on.

Growing up in New Brunswick, of course, we stood and sung (NB slang for sang  ;)) the bilingual version each morning. I note that they still stand and sing it there - but seems they weren't one of the 6 "chosen" poll spots.
 
NB myself. While I stood and sung every morning, it was the english version. When I was in Choir is middle and High school we sang the english version too. Now I'm from Saint John, much more anglophones than Francophones. It very well could differ depending on where in NB as we are the only officially bilingual province.
 
Loachman said:
It's changed so many times in the last few decades that I cannot remember what the official words are, either.

And there are still people pushing to change it yet again...Actually, I remember some controversy about the current "official anthem" version being adopted by Parliament without a quorum (which would technically invalidate any action voted at that time), but have never actually seen proof of that.
 
DexOlesa said:
NB myself. While I stood and sung every morning, it was the english version. When I was in Choir is middle and High school we sang the english version too. Now I'm from Saint John, much more anglophones than Francophones. It very well could differ depending on where in NB as we are the only officially bilingual province.

Newcastle and Oromocto for me.
 
I started school in Ottawa - I actually learned "O Canada" in French before I learned it in English - and we sang it every morning before class.  I've lost track of how many times I've had to relearn lyrics in English...oddly enough, the French lyrics haven't changed any in the past 40 odd years, and IIRC, not at all since they were written.  Incidentally, I've heard they're trying to make the words to "The Maple Leaf Forever" more politically correct or better perhaps, less politically volatile.

MM
 
Could the issue be, especially in the major cities, the fact that a lot of the students or their parents are not originally born here so they never had a chance to grow up with the Anthem like those who were born here? Because we are not allowed to show patriotism a lot of our youth today have no idea what it is. It's a sad state of affairs when it's against the law to be patriotic!
 
The fault really does not lay with todays kids, they don't know because they are NOT being taught it, afterall they are only products of their own environment, and the education they recieve at school and at home for that matter. Their parents politcal stance, the lefty do-gooders, and the PC way of doing things of todays forever dysfunctional society.

Our days as kids ( I was born in '59) with God Save the Queen, and O' Canada, plus the Lord's Prayer, and the 'strap' in school are long long gone for good.

Oh, the good ole days.

I know a woman in New Hampsire who teaches 2nd grade in a private school. There the kids are taught the US Star Spangled Banner, their oath of allegiance, and the Lord's Prayer. No ACLU BS being pumped into that school. There is nothing wrong with being a patriot, or at least thats how I see it.

My 2 bob.

OWDU
 
I'm with Loachman.  They've changed it (the English version at any rate) too often.  To tell the truth, I'm not sure I know what the "official" version is now, either.  I do, however, know the "old" version in both English and French.  :cdn:
 
What makes me wonder is this part of the survey (U of V release attached) - highlights mine:
Canadians sang the national anthem with pride during the Vancouver Olympics. However, a study by the University of Victoria shows more than half of Canadian high school choral students still don’t know the melody to “O Canada,” while fewer than 70 per cent know the lyrics.

The “O Canada Project” - conducted by Dr. Mary Kennedy, associate professor of music education in UVic’s Faculty of Education - represents a cross-Canada sampling of 275 high school choral students representing 12 schools in six provinces. The study found that few students could sing the national anthem perfectly. Only 67 per cent of the students tested were judged proficient in lyrics, making an average of two errors or less. More alarming were the results for melodic proficiency, where only 46 per cent of students made an average of two melodic errors or less. Newfoundland youth displayed the highest overall proficiency while Quebecers displayed the lowest ....
If 2/3 high school students who SING on a regular basis know the words, and less than 1/2 get the tune right, I'm guessing high school students who aren't in the choir would only do worse.

For me, not singing/hearing O'Canada in school on a daily basis = not knowing it.
 
Overwatch Downunder said:
OD, I fail to see the link b/w patriotism and The Lord's Prayer. I am as patriotic as they come yet I would pull out my child from any school that forces the Lord's Prayer upon them. The Oath and the Anthem, ah well then!
 
PMedMoe said:
I'm with Loachman.  They've changed it (the English version at any rate) too often.

It's part of my overall personal efficiency system.

I ignore change as much as possible, as whatever's changed will eventually change back.

If anybody complains that I'm not doing something the right way, I simply respond "They changed that? When?" and carry on. Sometimes this actually makes me ahead of everybody else, and sometimes by many years.

In the meantime, I stand silently at attention when the anthem's played, whether in uniform or not. Minimizing behavioural modes is another personal efficiency measure.
 
In southern Ontario going to school in the 1980s I had to sing the Anthem plus say the Lord's Prayer every morning.  The latter I knew had been dropped, but I did not know the Anthem had.

Even in high school 90-95 we still had to stand up for the anthem and teens being teens most people probably just stood up and twirled their hair and looked out the window, but at least it was still played over the PA.

Sadly, it is now those people who are the teachers and they'll just be even more slack about it.

My 2c on the bilingual version is that it is ghey.  I have nothing at all against the French version, and I am all for the French version played in French areas.  Those French people have the right to not hear the full song in their own language, the same way an English person has the right to hear their full version (as Vern pointed out, NB is kind of an oddball here).
 
I quizzed my kids on this just the other day. Apparently, here in MB they only play the anthem once weekly in their high school. When we were in AB, they sang it every day.
 
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