Karel Doorman
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And more news,builder for the 12 new MCM ships is known(replacement "tripartite-class),sorry for the "google" translation. :-X
Thanks to an unbeatable financial proposal, Naval Group would take the rope to extract from STX / Thales a € 2 billion contract for the supply of twelve minehunters to Belgium and the Netherlands. The naval group would also have benefited from a boost from Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian. What the Quai d'Orsay denies.
Atmosphere, atmosphere. Between STX, Thales and Naval Group, the atmosphere will soon be very, very explosive. The new Belgian Minister of Defense and Foreign Affairs, Didier Reynders, was supposed to award, on Friday after a restricted interdepartmental council, a contract for the purchase of twelve minesweepers by the Belgian navy (six vessels ) and the Netherlands (six others) for approximately € 2 billion. However, the decision could be postponed, according to concordant sources. Belgium has in principle until the end of the month to decide, the legislative elections are scheduled for May 26. Brussels is not at its first postponement.
"The contract award for demining vessels has been slightly delayed for two to three months, partly because of the complexity of the procurement file," Defense Minister Didier Reynders said on Wednesday. Why: "In order to give bidders the maximum opportunity to submit compliant and optimized offers, it was necessary to extend the negotiation period by a few weeks".
The Belgian choice should generate strong explanations between the three groups which are closely linked to each other: STX is 15% owned by Naval Group, which itself has a stake in Thales (35%). For its part, the State has participations in the three groups. A little more consistency would have made the position of France more healthy situation. The consortium STX / Thales, backed by France, and Naval Group have engaged a fierce competition, too fierce ... which could be ultimately disastrous for both groups. An umpteenth Franco-French export war, which should never have taken place. Initially, the Directorate General of Armament (DGA) had asked the Naval Group not to compete but the group finally forced the door after the departure of the delegate general for weapons, Laurent Collet-Billon. The Hôtel de Brienne is delighted with a possible French victory in Belgium, explains one in the entourage of Florence Parly.
Three consortia submitted bids deemed credible by the Belgian Directorate General of Material Resources (DGMR), which has already eliminated the Spanish shipyard Navantia: the Dutch group Damen Schelde, associated with the company IMTECH België; a consortium called Sea Naval Solutions, bringing together the Thales shipyards, including Thales Belgium, STX France, Socarenam and the Antwerp firm Engine Deck Repair (EDR); and, finally, a consortium between Naval Group and ECA Robotics called Naval & Robotics.
Naval Group winner?
According to Belgian sources, it is Naval Group, who would hold the rope the day before (?) The award of contract in front of favorite STX / Thales, who was still the race in the lead in recent weeks. The naval group would have made an unbeatable financial proposal to win this market, which could not, it seems, not escape technologically and politically to the electronics group, one of the world champions, otherwise the champion anti-submarine warfare. Because sonar acoustic performance is the key to detecting mines and systems. "Between Thales and ECA, there are several divisions of difference in this area," ensures a very good knowledge of the case.
Thales, which has developed a CAPTAS 4 sonar of excellence for French multi-mission frigates (FREMM), is also working on a new-generation sonar for future nuclear launching submarines (SNLE). State-of-the-art technologies that meet the needs of the Belgian navy, a reference in NATO for mine warfare. This capacity is important for Belgium in a context of renewed international tensions, particularly with Russia, which tests Western defenses in the air and under the sea. "Belgium is the pilot country for a project on the future development of autonomous systems of mine action," said Wednesday the Belgian Defense Minister before the Defense Committee.
For example, last August, during an exercise off the coast of Norway, NATO's SNMCMG 1 mine-control fleet was under Belgian command, the command and support vessel being the Godetia. Every year, Belgian minesweepers take part in a NATO demining campaign carried out by an international squadron from the Baltic coast to the Mediterranean. According to the Belgian Ministry of Defense, stalking
Thanks to an unbeatable financial proposal, Naval Group would take the rope to extract from STX / Thales a € 2 billion contract for the supply of twelve minehunters to Belgium and the Netherlands. The naval group would also have benefited from a boost from Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian. What the Quai d'Orsay denies.
Atmosphere, atmosphere. Between STX, Thales and Naval Group, the atmosphere will soon be very, very explosive. The new Belgian Minister of Defense and Foreign Affairs, Didier Reynders, was supposed to award, on Friday after a restricted interdepartmental council, a contract for the purchase of twelve minesweepers by the Belgian navy (six vessels ) and the Netherlands (six others) for approximately € 2 billion. However, the decision could be postponed, according to concordant sources. Belgium has in principle until the end of the month to decide, the legislative elections are scheduled for May 26. Brussels is not at its first postponement.
"The contract award for demining vessels has been slightly delayed for two to three months, partly because of the complexity of the procurement file," Defense Minister Didier Reynders said on Wednesday. Why: "In order to give bidders the maximum opportunity to submit compliant and optimized offers, it was necessary to extend the negotiation period by a few weeks".
The Belgian choice should generate strong explanations between the three groups which are closely linked to each other: STX is 15% owned by Naval Group, which itself has a stake in Thales (35%). For its part, the State has participations in the three groups. A little more consistency would have made the position of France more healthy situation. The consortium STX / Thales, backed by France, and Naval Group have engaged a fierce competition, too fierce ... which could be ultimately disastrous for both groups. An umpteenth Franco-French export war, which should never have taken place. Initially, the Directorate General of Armament (DGA) had asked the Naval Group not to compete but the group finally forced the door after the departure of the delegate general for weapons, Laurent Collet-Billon. The Hôtel de Brienne is delighted with a possible French victory in Belgium, explains one in the entourage of Florence Parly.
Three consortia submitted bids deemed credible by the Belgian Directorate General of Material Resources (DGMR), which has already eliminated the Spanish shipyard Navantia: the Dutch group Damen Schelde, associated with the company IMTECH België; a consortium called Sea Naval Solutions, bringing together the Thales shipyards, including Thales Belgium, STX France, Socarenam and the Antwerp firm Engine Deck Repair (EDR); and, finally, a consortium between Naval Group and ECA Robotics called Naval & Robotics.
Naval Group winner?
According to Belgian sources, it is Naval Group, who would hold the rope the day before (?) The award of contract in front of favorite STX / Thales, who was still the race in the lead in recent weeks. The naval group would have made an unbeatable financial proposal to win this market, which could not, it seems, not escape technologically and politically to the electronics group, one of the world champions, otherwise the champion anti-submarine warfare. Because sonar acoustic performance is the key to detecting mines and systems. "Between Thales and ECA, there are several divisions of difference in this area," ensures a very good knowledge of the case.
Thales, which has developed a CAPTAS 4 sonar of excellence for French multi-mission frigates (FREMM), is also working on a new-generation sonar for future nuclear launching submarines (SNLE). State-of-the-art technologies that meet the needs of the Belgian navy, a reference in NATO for mine warfare. This capacity is important for Belgium in a context of renewed international tensions, particularly with Russia, which tests Western defenses in the air and under the sea. "Belgium is the pilot country for a project on the future development of autonomous systems of mine action," said Wednesday the Belgian Defense Minister before the Defense Committee.
For example, last August, during an exercise off the coast of Norway, NATO's SNMCMG 1 mine-control fleet was under Belgian command, the command and support vessel being the Godetia. Every year, Belgian minesweepers take part in a NATO demining campaign carried out by an international squadron from the Baltic coast to the Mediterranean. According to the Belgian Ministry of Defense, stalking
,seems to be translated quite good(but read it fast,so might be a few things here and there)
