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Canadian defence force (CDF)

Do you agree with me

  • yes

    Votes: 2 7.7%
  • no

    Votes: 5 19.2%
  • I says 'pardon?'

    Votes: 19 73.1%

  • Total voters
    26
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Ontario said:
The old military would never give up.

The military doesnt make the decision to pull out or stay...thats a political decision made by politicians....NOT SOLDIERS

Maybe if you had a clue you would know that

New Zealand can afford what it does because it decided to give up alot of things.....fighter aviation is one
 
Me thinks he has steped into a minefield and forgot to ask for Engineer Resources.

Quote from: Ontario on Today at 23:00:48
To mike actually i would stop the buying of the leo 2's and get abrams instead, for the fact that spare parts, etc are alot easier to acuire seeing as its just south of the border instead of halfway across the world.
1. M1's suck down fuel like its going out of style
2. They have a huge heat signature as they use an aircraft engine as the power plant.












 
You guys got me on the tank, and soldier thing. But the politics of the day are horrible. Harper is our best bet but even hes pretty weak. Dion if hes elected you can pretty much kiss the CF good bye, same with layton.
I dont understand why defence is not PM top priority, its the most important thing. We have the most coastline in the world, and our navy is not even close to being strong enough to defend it. Maybe if our espirit de corps was better, if our military looked more professional, through uniforms, drill, and being fit not fat, which ive seen alot of fat soldiers and dont understand how that can be, o ya the current forces require 19 PUSHUPS i no people in gade 8 that can do that. Standards also must be changed, and i dont think im alone on that one. IF you want to attract a younger audiance then you need to look good. Look at the USMC uniforms, absoluty astonishing, how good do they look when doing drill, i had freinds at my house when that commercial came on you no the one where        they were called lethernecks the were called devil dogs but above all there called marines        and when they saw the drill they were like WTF that looks so cool i wish i could join them.
 
...and I know kids in Grade 8 who can spell and use capitals.

Your time grows short.
 
Ontario said:
if our military looked more professional, through uniforms, drill,

:rofl:


Nothing improves effectiveness in combat like smart uniforms and foot drill......we all know that


Equipment, ammunition, realistic training......all frivolous of course
 
Ontario said:
Im done highschool as of this year.

Oh i see now.........awesome.......

i love this time of year...when school is out...i realy do  ::)
 
CDN Aviator said:
:rofl:


Nothing improves effectiveness in combat like smart uniforms and foot drill......we all know that


Equipment, ammunition, realistic training......all frivolous of course

Actually drill shows disipiline. Also just because you look good and do things only certain people can do, doesnt mean your less combat effective.
 
You obviously have no idea the state of Canada's foreign affairs nor the reason why we're in Afghanistan. Defense doesn't happen only at home.

espirit de corps was better, if our military looked more professional, through uniforms, drill, and being fit not fat

You obviously haven't been to an operational unit.....or aren't in the CF at all.

Your time is growing short indeed...you know nothing of what you are talking about.
 
Ontario said:
Actually drill shows disipiline. Also just because you look good and do things only certain people can do, doesnt mean your less combat effective.


I'm pretty sure you have absolutely nothing to offer me when i comes to military wisdom........

BTW, a surface to air missle doesnt care what my uniform looks like
 
Ontario said:
Actually drill shows disipiline. Also just because you look good and do things only certain people can do, doesnt mean your less combat effective.

The Taliban doesn't give two shytes about that kid.

You are now out of your lane...and getting close to the ramp.
 
Why does everyone keep bringing up combat effectivness and stuff like that, i started this post for bringing back tradition, names, ranks. Why dont you guys want it back?  thats the new question  why do you not want to go back to pre 1967?
 
Ontario said:
Why does everyone keep bringing up combat effectivness and stuff like that, i started this post for bringing back tradition, names, ranks. Why dont you guys want it back?  thats the new question  why do you not want to go back to pre 1967?

Combat effectiveness is EVERYTHING..........
 
Recce By Death said:
The Taliban doesn't give two shytes about that kid.

You are now out of your lane...and getting close to the ramp.

I'm sure your officer or sergeant would care though.
 
Why do people with no real experience actually believe the "good old days"  were really that "good" compared to today?
 
Ontario said:
Thats not the topic though.

Going back to old uniforms, ranks and names does nothing to improve combat effectiveness.....so why waste the time and money

Is that on topic enough for you ?
 
Ok so why they do it in the first place. To try and save money, and to spend more money on equiptment. IT DID NEITHER(unification)
 
Ontario said:
Thats not the topic though.

Actually, I thought is was:

Ontario said:
Our forces needs a huge reorganization. The current state is an embarrassment to the pre 1967 military. We need to bring back our tri service military but with an integrated command structure. We should organize it like the other countries who have there military organized into a defense force. New Zealand and Australia have there military like that, and they can operate properly and if New Zealand can afford to have a tri service military then we can DEFINITELY can (no offence). We need to bring back traditions, uniforms, ranks, etc.  Its not a waste of time and effort either. The current structure is a joke.

Vote then post if you want to.

Though you may have to define "properly" within the context of your first post.  Or were you only referring to how they dress and do drill?
 
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