Wow, yeah. If Spencer Fernando is saying this one’s not on Trudeau, I’m not sure who else you could look to hear it from.
CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)
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lenaitch
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That's alright. Some premiers think local cops and conservation officers can do the same thing.I didn't figure that - although on some socials, some people seem to think it's as "simple" as essentially doing that with CBSA
If they want to end the supply management they had best figure out a way to unwind the associated debt or they will impoverish a lot of farms (in addition to Quebec going completely apoplectic). The article from the last free-trade go-round.
Trump pauses tariffs on Mexico for 1 month after Sheinbaum agrees to send troops to border
President Trump announced he is pausing tariffs targeting imports from Mexico for a month after the country's president agreed to send 10,000 troops to the U.S.-Mexico border.
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Mexico is sending 10,000 troops to the border to get out of the tariffs. We could probably do that if we really had to right? Maybe throw in some CIC Officers and Rangers, a couple people from the Sup Reserves.
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Trump now has some movement from Mexico, Panama and Denmark/ Greenland, opening the way to future talks.
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The overtures may not be completely amicable, but they now have a start point for negotiation.
We'll see in an hour or two where Canada stands. Maybe a bit longer while trudeau tries to massage his message to Canadians
Mexican president says tariffs delayed after ‘good’ talk with Trump - National | Globalnews.ca
Mexican president Claudia Sheinbaum said she and U.S president Trump reached "a series of agreements" during their conversation.
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Donald Trump's Panama threat starts paying off
The new U.S. president has frequently accused China of controlling key global trade route the Panama Canal.
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Denmark frantically messages Trump about security concessions on Greenland after he threatened to take it over: report
One European diplomat told Axios that Denmark was widely seen as America’s closest ally in the European Union, and that no one could have imagined it’d be the first Trump would pick a f…
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The overtures may not be completely amicable, but they now have a start point for negotiation.
We'll see in an hour or two where Canada stands. Maybe a bit longer while trudeau tries to massage his message to Canadians
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I don't know where they get the authority under the Customs Act.
"officer means a person employed in the administration or enforcement of this Act, the Customs Tariff or the Special Import Measures Act and includes any member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police;"
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lenaitch
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According to their website, Xplor is using the high-altitude Jupiter 3 satellite. I wonder how the latency is.
I live in a rural area of crappy Internet and wasn't aware of the governments Starlink assistance package (we are on Starlink - paid for by us). I assume that since you can get sat Internet pretty much anywhere you have sky - except really high latitudes - the government package was purely financial, unlike federal programs to providers to expand equipment.
I know a number of people who had Xplore (formerly Xplorenet) terrestrial services (microwave, fixed wireless, etc.) and know nobody who liked them.
Ontario Northland (owned by the Ontario government) uses Starlink for on-board services on their Cochrane to Moosonee pax train. I have an IT contact with them but am afraid to call him. If he found about this this morning, his day would have gone south fairly quickly.
I have heard that Rogers is partnering with Starlink on some kind of service as well.
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Honestly, we provide Quebec with more than enough cash than anyone else and lopsided in their favour. They can bail themselves out. I'm tired of Quebec driving the car.
Realistically, we'll pay for it.
How much did it cost us when we closed the Canadian Wheat Board? I don't hear western Canada screaming for their return.
There’s new risk in that. If tariffs are going to be leveraged at Canada as a weapon, there is both commercial and reputation at risk in tying oneself via business ventures to prominent figures within the U.S. oligarchy.
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Ya but I don't think the grain farmers had around several billion in personal and small business debt tied up in it.
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Look. I'm not advocating that relaxing banking regulation is a good thing for us. Or that ending supply management is the right call- or that literally any material concession isn't opening a pandoras box of potential future exploitation.
But.... hope isn't a COA, and doing nothing isn't an option. These discussions need to be had, and Trudeau has to be considering all options. He needs to rise to this in a big way- regardless of what you or anyone else thinks of the man- he's at the plate. He's likely going to have to choose between bad and worse. Writing a speech claiming the moral high ground doesn't fix this.
I get that I'm a guest on a military discussion board. But frankly- this conflict is not going to be fought by the military. The costs will not be born in the blood of soldiers- they will be born by the livelihoods and financial well being of those of us that directly depend on a functioning economy. So while you might have the prerogative to wax patronizingly about Anschluss and take the position of patriotic absolutism- some of us don't. We depend on a soft landing from this. Whether it's a strong, cogent plan to pivot away from our US reliance and prop up the populace in the intervening years, or walking the tightrope and negotiating the least bad economic concessions, or kissing the ring with some performative border bullshit- the game needs to be played.
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Phone call must be over. Trump is currently with the current Stanley Cup Champs.
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Waiting most likely until the markets close -
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Like I said, I have zero sympathy for anyone dumping perfectly good product to manipulate the market while we have millions of people using food banks and living in trudeauvilles. Dumping with people starving is pure callous profiteering not to mention the waste.
Let them eat cake indeed.
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Or they're figuring out how to spin bad news.
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Are you suggesting that “nothing” is what the response has been? Because I am pretty sure I have seen action at both provincial and federal levels.
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Maybe not western Canada as a whole, but a bunch of the farmers are still at 'er ....
The ongoing saga of the privatization the Canadian Wheat Board
I think it is fair to say that family farmers are among one of the most hopeful, resilient, and persevering occupations. I am not romanticizing the role of the farmer by any stretch — j…
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Dennis et al. v. Canada - class action
This class action seeks to recover damages suffered by farmers as a result of the Government’s decision to dismantle and privatize the Canadian Wheat Board.
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Are the clouds in your sky always black? lol
