Air Shows

[mariomike]

Maybe this belongs in the WTF thread...

Are they trying to take the last bit of fun out of the Ex?

Sep 03, 2016

Is it time to rethink Toronto's air show?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/programs/metromorning/air-show-trauma-1.3747293
'Any time a plane flew over, I was paralyzed,' says local filmmaker after returning from a conflict zone

It's the sound of the city this weekend: the roar of planes overhead as the Canadian International Air Show features vintage and modern planes in aerial displays. It's been running since 1949, and draws thousands of people to the waterfront.

"One of the largest air shows in North America!"

 

[Journeyman]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/programs/metromorning/air-show-trauma-1.3747293

Summary:  "I'm making a film on supposed immigrant/refugee reactions to the air show;  not situating the estimate, but there's clearly  a problem between taking in refugees and 'this sort of affront' to their experiences.  I'm not saying we need to change on their behalf.... since all clear-thinking individuals will come to that obvious conclusion. 

So can I get some free, anti-military advertising for my project from the CBC?"      :boring:

 

[mariomike]

Looks like Wikipedia has a bit of an editing war going on! 

Canadian International Air Show

"The Canadian International Air Show (CIAS) is an annual horror show that has been tormenting local residents and ruining the last long weekend of the summer at the conclusion of the Canadian National Exhibition (CNE) in Toronto since 1949"
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canadian_International_Air_Show&action=history

In Toronto, the death rattle of summer is marked in an unusual way. It’s signalled by a crescendo of rumbling overhead, a whooshing sound of jets too close for comfort, sending vibrations throughout the city and cats clawing up walls. It’s the Canadian International Air Show.
https://nowtoronto.com/news/think-free-blog/10-people-who-hate-the-goddamn-toronto-air-show/

I live in the High Park area, so after all these years, I'm pretty used to it. The animals in the Park and the HP Zoo may get a bit skittish.

 

[ueo]

Lived in High Park area a long while ago, also worked as part of the CF exhibit at the CNE less long ago. This type of article appears annually and after a "short" news cycle fades until next year. No one beyond the "odd" person who lives in the area or someone who has an agenda of some description really cares. Those that espouse the thought that the immigrant community feels something should, maybe, ask that community. This years show was small, as compared to past years with their Vulcans etc going past and the odd accident, so what's the problem? Is one of "feelings" or one of "I" have an opinion and will try to impose it on the rest of the world? :facepalm:

 

[mariomike]

I was born at St. Joes. They were having the CIAS even back then. Get used to it, or go to the cottage! 

See Reply #17.

Lived in High Park area a long while ago, also worked as part of the CF exhibit at the CNE less long ago.

In recent years, exhibits have been shutting down early.

Never did an exhibit, but worked a lot of OT at the Ex over the years  decades.

 

[Journeyman]

Not 2016, but another season of whininess has begun....

CF-18 flyby spooks Montrealers
Event was organized for Alouettes' home opener, but not everyone was au courant

"It scared the heck out of me," he said.

Peters's wife and two young children were on their way home during the flyby. He said the noise caused her to let go of the stroller with the 22-month-old inside, so she could move over and protect the three-year-old. The stroller rolled away and hit a Bixi stand, then toppled over. :

Everyone is fine, Peters said, save for a few tears shed in the aftermath. But Peters plans to call the city and possibly contact the Alouettes to put an end to these kinds of events.

"It shouldn't be happening, not with people in town with PTSD, refugees coming from war zones, it could trigger all sorts of trauma," he said.

      :not-again:

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Some of those refugees probably look up and think, "Where were those planes when our villages were being razed?"

 

[Rifleman62]

https://army.ca/forums/threads/123590/post-1493320/topicseen.html#new

Dimsum:

Straight from the UN page on Peacekeeping:

Quote
UN Peacekeeping is guided by three basic principles:

Consent of the parties;
Impartiality;
Non-use of force except in self-defence and defence of the mandate.

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/operations/peacekeeping.shtml

As Loachman says, blue-helmet peacekeeping cannot be like Afghanistan, as we definitely did NOT have the consent of the Taliban and we used force for more than just self-defence.

Perhaps we should paint our CF-18's baby blue with UN markings for the interdiction of hostile aircraft. Our pilots could wag a finger and shout "STOP" over 121.5 MHz.

The pilots would have to wear blue helmets also to give credibility to their polite request.

 

[Roger123]

At ACS they gave a calendar of the QIAS featuring all the performers of 2016 as part of the welcome package. In the back of my mind I mentally said I was going to attend in June, in hopes of seeing a Raptor. At the end May I realized that there would be no show in 2017 and that they were planning to host it every other year.

Anyway, looking at the photos on this forum I wonder how USAF pilots get trained on the F22. I mean I don't recall there being a 2 seat Raptor. Do they go from jet trainer (USAF equivalent of the hawk) to something like F18 and then Raptor?

 

[Good2Golf]

At ACS they gave a calendar of the QIAS featuring all the performers of 2016 as part of the welcome package. In the back of my mind I mentally said I was going to attend in June, in hopes of seeing a Raptor. At the end May I realized that there would be no show in 2017 and that they were planning to host it every other year.

Anyway, looking at the photos on this forum I wonder how USAF pilots get trained on the F22. I mean I don't recall there being a 2 seat Raptor. Do they go from jet trainer (USAF equivalent of the hawk) to something like F18 and then Raptor?

T-6 to T-38 to FSim to F-22.  See Euro-NATO's Joint (USAF-NATO) Jet Pilot Training.

T-38 Talon's can be unforgiving, so they make excellent 'physical' training aircraft.  The FSim will be where a potential Raptor pilot will learn to fight the "data/info/knowledge kill-chain." 

Regards
G2G

 

[Roger123]

Thanks for the link G2G.

 

[CBH99]

Very random question here...

Was there some sort of display of either a C-130 or an A400M over Edmonton yesterday?

Very low & slow flying aircraft right over the middle of the city.  At first I thought it was a C-130, but the more I looked at it, the more it seemed to be something else?  Very low, but not quite low enough for me to make a definite conclusion.  I'd like to say it was a C-130, and perhaps it was just my eyes playing tricks on me...but it really looked like something else?

Any info?  Any displays or demonstrations?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Anyone got a list for 2018?

 

[mariomike]

Air Shows 2018 : Canada
https://www.milavia.net/airshows/calendar/showdates-2018-north_america-CA.html

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Tanks Mario.

 

[Rifleman62]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INcWJYFvSkQ

Best of 2018 in the Mach-loop, Low-Level Flying

Near the end the RCAF CF-18 Demo Tm.


One of the best. In 4K

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiAW6u4Yt1w

Death Valley Days 4K

 

[Rifleman62]

Awesome! 5 Commercial Jets Flying in Formation Sep 2014

Five Airbus A350-900s took to the skies for a formation flight, if you love aviation this is just beautiful to watch.

https://www.chonday.com/16377/fivebujawe2/

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Following attachment has all the 2019 Canadian Airshow dates. Source: Scramble. The Scramble webpage has links for some of the airshows and also all US airshow dates.  Feel free to add any shows that I may have missed.

 

[observor 69]

A F-18 passed over our location near Toronto Pearson Airport this morning around 0930 local. Probably something to do with this. 


The Canadian International Air Show (CIAS) (August 31 to September 2) celebrates its 70th anniversary this year with a spectacular new show.

Confirmed Performances (to date):

The Royal Air Force Red Arrows
Canadian Forces Snowbirds
Canadian veteran Gord Price in the Russian-built Yak 50
USAF A-10
USAF Black Hawk Helicopter SAR Demonstration
MiG 15
Brent Handy in a Pitts Special
RAF A400M
More acts to come - Stay tuned!

https://theex.com/main/entertainment/canadian-international-air-show/air-show

 

[Dale Denton]

Time of year when many complain about that awesome noise.

London Airshow is worth the travel with their lineup + display aircraft.

Check out their site for the full list.