2022 CPC Leadership Discussion: Et tu Redeux

[mariomike]

And apparently knew how to work a room.

Yeah but 6?

A high bar. But, doable.

Before paying a survivor benefit to a spouse, OMERS is required under applicable laws to confirm that a member was not living separate and apart from their spouse at the relevant time.

Defines "spouse" as "A couple who live together in a committed relationship - without being legally married."

Goes on to say,

Sometimes spouses can live separately and still be considered “living together” as spouses. For example, if one spouse lives in a nursing home due to deteriorating health

The Toronto Police Pensioners Association represents over 4,000 retired members.

Presumably, a percentage are likely in nursing homes operated by the city, hospitals, non-profit orgnizations, public and private companies, and culturally specific facilities.

Our pensioner group informs retired members, and surviving spouses, of members admitted to nursing homes. Presumably, municipal police pensioner associations do likewise?

She could make the rounds, and have a few extra frail ones on deck at time of need.

I’d love to see any kid(s) of ours consider ROTP. Still a tough deal to beat, and a great safety net to start with.

My sister did a CT to the Regular Force as an NCM. Later, they sent her to Royal Roads University, and, eventually, got her Commission.

CAF was her first, and last, employer.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Which we know, by informing ourselves of the result of Canadian Parliament’s Vote on Bill C-35, Child Care, vote #385 on June 19, 2023, to be factually wrong. Essentially, the Liberal ad LIED to Canadians, but hey, some voters will believe the “I heard he [Poilievre] voted against child day care… “ Clearly Ms. Liberal Canadian portrayed in the ad heard wrong.

The facts are that 100% of Conservatives, all 110/110 voted for the Child Care legislation.

Ironically, not all Liberal MPs voted for it. 98.7% of Liberals voted YEA, 151/153. Two Liberal MPs paired their votes with Bloq Quebecois members who did not vote.
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I was looking for something else, and found out that while you're right (good digging BTW), this is only part of the story.

When the $10/day child care measures were part of the 2021 budget, Team Blue (including the coach) did, indeed, vote against them ...

... but even the generally-pro-Team-Red Toronto Star, in 2023, had to give credit where due when Team Blue, as you correctly pointed out, voted for the bill enabling the funding for child care, including the $10/day.

Tories vote in favour of bill enshrining long-term funding for child-care system

OTTAWA - Conservative members of Parliament joined other parties to vote in favour of a bill that enshrines the federal government’s long-term commitment to a Canada-wide early learning and child-care system.

www.thestar.com

Also archived here if link doesn't work.

A tidy little lesson in political comms. To draw an oversimplified legal analogy, the "they voted against child care" could be considered the prosecution's position, with "they voted for the money to make child care happen" representing the defence's position.

Are they both correct in and of themselves? Yup

Are they both fully correct? Nope.

Which is the "lie" and which is the "truth", then? In the eye of the beholder ....

 

[Good2Golf]

When the $10/day child care measures were part of the 2021 budget, Team Blue (including the coach) did, indeed, vote against them ...

Yup. Which was the Liberal government with classic bill packaging.

The Conservatives voted against Bill C-30 in 2021 because of the very poorly unsubstantiated $90B deficit…

Archived - Annual Financial Report of the Government of Canada Fiscal Year 2021-2022 - Canada.ca

Annual Financial Report of the Government of Canada Fiscal Year 2021-2022

www.canada.ca

 

[The Bread Guy]

Yup. Which was the Liberal government with classic bill packaging.

The Conservatives voted against Bill C-30 in 2021 because of the very poorly unsubstantiated $90B deficit…

Archived - Annual Financial Report of the Government of Canada Fiscal Year 2021-2022 - Canada.ca

Annual Financial Report of the Government of Canada Fiscal Year 2021-2022

www.canada.ca

All “true” but just as “true” as “they voted against day care” or “they voted against a Ukrainian trade deal”. Why & context matters, for sure, but doesn’t make it into the headlines, memes or bumper stickers.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Yup. Which was the Liberal government with classic bill packaging.

To be fair all democratic governments and parties are guilty of this practice.