Your opinions, please....

[army_paralegal]

On the following;

1.) Punishment for Malvo, the sniper kid.

2.) The execution of 12-year-olds that has been proposed some time back.

 

[Jonny Boy]

you should provide some extra info for those who may not know what you are talking about. it is hard to form an opinion when you do not know all the facts.


but the sniper kid. he should  get what ever the older one gets. they both did the same thing and i think a 17 year old is old enough to know shooting Innocent people for no reason is wrong and illegal

 

[paracowboy]

stop calling him a 'sniper'. He's a murderer.

 

[Jonny Boy]

ok fair enough. the 17 year old murderer.

 

[Hedgehog18]

The death penalty is a horible thing and i dont think anyone in the world has the abilty to choses whos crimes are warrant the death penalty and whos are not..thats my 2 cents ... though sending him to the nice lil resorts they have in china and letting nature takes it toll would be fine lol

 

[TCBF]

Shoot him.

 

[Hedgehog18]

Shoot him.

good argument .. you changed my opinion

 

[Jonny Boy]

good argument .. you changed my opinion

well it is better than 1 life sentence or 10 years with good behavior.

 

[Tucker.D]

The same crime deserves the same punishment.

 

[Greywolf]

I think we should get rid of the Young Offenders Act altogether.  If somebody commits a crime, it doesn't matter if he's 5 years old or 30...ok...there could be special circumstances...but still I think it's more the exception than the rule. 

 

[Tucker.D]

Agreed. What is a 17 year old murder going to say.. "Ohhh.. I thought I could just go around and shoot innocent people for fun.. I didn't know it was wrong or anything.."

 

[Jonny Boy]

Agreed. What is a 17 year old murder going to say.. "Ohhh.. I thought I could just go around and shoot innocent people for fun.. I didn't know it was wrong or anything.."

exactly

I think we should get rid of the Young Offenders Act altogether.  If somebody commits a crime, it doesn't matter if he's 5 years old or 30...ok...there could be special circumstances...but still I think it's more the exception than the rule. 

and exactly. teens can  get away with murder in Canada

 

[Ironside]

... though sending him to the nice lil resorts they have in china and letting nature takes it toll would be fine lol

Shoot him.

I think I have a solution that lets you both (it was a Chinese style execution, although I do not believe it was very common):
Shoot him, then bill his family for the round spent.

 

[Jonny Boy]

ya but don't just charge for the bullet, be sure to put in labour and psychiatric therapy that may go along with killing a monster.

 

[Crazy_Eyes]

exactly
and exactly. teens can   get away with murder in Canada

Just as a point...teens cant get away with murder, there are certain charges where teens are treated as adults....I learned this having gone through the young offenders act a while ago (no comments please) and no not for murder. Although I do agree, such a serious crime, punishment should be the same, especially if the kid escaped adult punishment by only a few months

 

[Hedgehog18]

ya but don't just charge for the bullet, be sure to put in labour and psychiatric therapy that may go along with killing a monster.

while we are doing that why not add in the therapy of the survivors and there familys as well seems only fair 

 

[Jonny Boy]

Just as a point...teens cant get away with murder, there are certain charges where teens are treated as adults....I learned this having gone through the young offenders act a while ago (no comments please) and no not for murder. Although I do agree, such a serious crime, punishment should be the same, especially if the kid escaped adult punishment by only a few months

OK it was a little exaggerated, but they get very light sentences for murder, like the two teenage boys in i think BC, all they had to do was community service and juvie hall think, it is sad.

while we are doing that why not add in the therapy of the survivors and there familys as well seems only fair  

ya and throw in some other expenses as well, like transportation of the body.

 

[dw_1984]

Just to clarify, the Young Offenders Act was replaced by the Youth Criminal Justice Act in 2002.

Supposedly it tries to fix many of the problems that the YOA had.  I believe one of the big things was the harsher (adult) punishments for serious crimes for 16 yr olds or at least a greater likelihood that such offender be transfered to adult court than w/ the YOA.  It's been a while since I took any type of law so I don't remember all the details about it.  Maybe one of our resident lawyers/law students could clarify.

 

[TCBF]

YOA/YCJA was all about rich lawyers and politicians aghast that their drug addled kids were getting a criminal record and screwing up their cchances of passing the bar exam young.  This was having a negative effect on the little self-perpetuating socialist intellectual aristicracy they had going in Canada, so they needed a law that would seal the criminal records of their kids.

Very effective.

But, once a psycho, always a psycho.

You think that ring theft was the first crime Svend Robinson commited?

You think Ethel Blondin-whatever's MP expense account 'issues' came out of thin air? 

Remember when grade school teachers could predict who would end up in jail?  They were right.  A leopard cannot change it's spots.

These guys giving testimoney at the Gomery inquiry, lets talk to THEIR old teachers and neighbours.

I say, keep some of the YCJA provisions if you must, but make the entire process public and open.  In order to be done, justice must be seen to be done. 

 

[Kat Stevens]

anyone above the age of 12 should face the same penalties for violent crimes; take a life, forfeit a life.  It is ludicrous to assume that any 15 year old that picks up a weapon, aims at someone, and squeezes the trigger can not be responsible for that act.  If you're homicidal at 12, you're homicidal at 22.  8 months at Porteau Cove will not rehabilitate a natural born killer...just MHO, as usual

CHIMO,  Kat