US Presidential Election 2024 - Trump vs Biden 2 - Vote Hard with a Vengence

[Pelorus]

Taking a mature stance that called for national unity and lowered emotions likely would have been the best play both politically and ethically for Trump following the assassination attempt. I am however unsurprised that the man with the emotional maturity and impulse control of a toddler wasn't able to take this path, along with some of the usual suspects in the GOP.

Political violence of any form is abhorrent and we're all fortunate that the assassination attempt was unsuccessful. But Trump's actions and consistent inflammatory lies since he came down the escalator at Trump Tower and announced his candidacy have had a significant role in the polarization that the US is in today. While I hope that nobody else makes a move towards violence I find it difficult to some extent to not view this situation as, "man who added fuel to fire for the past 9 years finally gets burned."

Trump Issues Dangerous Call to Arms During RNC

Donald Trump and his allies are using the convention to undermine faith the upcoming election.

newrepublic.com

In a prerecorded message to the convention Tuesday night, presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump insisted that Democrats are “destroying our country,” and once again claimed that the 2020 election was stolen from him, urging supporters not to let “what happened” that year happen again.

But few summed up the aggressive mood of the convention better than West Virginia Governor Jim Justice, who told conference-goers on Tuesday that the “bottom line” for Republicans is this: “We become totally unhinged if Donald Trump is not elected in November.”

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

The Radical Left Democrats are desperately trying to “Play the Ref” by calling for an illegal and unConstitutional attack on our SACRED United States Supreme Court. The reason that these Communists are so despondent is that their unLawful Witch Hunts are failing everywhere. The Democrats are...

truthsocial.com

The Radical Left Democrats are desperately trying to “Play the Ref” by calling for an illegal and unConstitutional attack on our SACRED United States Supreme Court. The reason that these Communists are so despondent is that their unLawful Witch Hunts are failing everywhere. The Democrats are attempting to interfere in the Presidential Election, and destroy our Justice System, by attacking their Political Opponent, ME, and our Honorable Supreme Court. We have to fight for our Fair and Independent Courts, and protect our Country. MAGA2024!

 

[JLB50]

Whoops. Biden’s tested positive for COVID and has had to cancel an appearance in Vegas today. Mild or not, both candidates are in the high risk demographic, and it’s definitely still going around.

2024 Election Latest: Biden contracts COVID-19 while campaigning in Las Vegas

Biden was slated to speak at the event in Las Vegas Wednesday afternoon as part of an effort to rally Hispanic voters

nationalpost.com

Interesting that it happens right at the time many Democrats are calling for him to quit the presidential race. Hmmm.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Whoops. Biden’s tested positive for COVID and has had to cancel an appearance in Vegas today. Mild or not, both candidates are in the high risk demographic, and it’s definitely still going around.

2024 Election Latest: Biden contracts COVID-19 while campaigning in Las Vegas

Biden was slated to speak at the event in Las Vegas Wednesday afternoon as part of an effort to rally Hispanic voters

nationalpost.com

Well, that's convenient.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Taking a mature stance that called for national unity and lowered emotions likely would have been the best play both politically and ethically for Trump following the assassination attempt.

Yes. It would be best if everyone did so. Trump going it alone wouldn't make much difference.

 

[KevinB]

Yes. It would be best if everyone did so. Trump going it alone wouldn't make much difference.

In the ideal world both of them would issue a joint statement or press conference to condemn extremism and violence.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Interesting that it happens right at the time many Democrats are calling for him to quit the presidential race. Hmmm.

Folks more cynical than me would also point to this, too.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/17/biden-presidential-race-medical-condition.html

 

[KevinB]

Usha Vance does a really good intro for him at the RNC

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2024/07/17/j-d-vances-wife-usha-vance-introduces-her-husband-at-republican-national-convention.html?

 

[QV]

Taking a mature stance that called for national unity and lowered emotions likely would have been the best play both politically and ethically for Trump following the assassination attempt. I am however unsurprised that the man with the emotional maturity and impulse control of a toddler wasn't able to take this path, along with some of the usual suspects in the GOP.

Political violence of any form is abhorrent and we're all fortunate that the assassination attempt was unsuccessful. But Trump's actions and consistent inflammatory lies since he came down the escalator at Trump Tower and announced his candidacy have had a significant role in the polarization that the US is in today. While I hope that nobody else makes a move towards violence I find it difficult to some extent to not view this situation as, "man who added fuel to fire for the past 9 years finally gets burned."

Believing the garbage in those kinds of articles is what causes polarization. A "Call to Arms"?, nope.

Immigration and electoral integrity are legitimate issues. I'm guessing a few hundred million people agree with that, regardless of their position on the issues.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Believing the garbage in those kinds of articles is what causes polarization ...

Yeah, it's just one side promoting polarization

For folks who don't remember who this guy is ....

Still liking this graphic these days.

 

[QV]

That is a good example,. Of course it's both sides, and 45 is in the middle.

As the former chair of the RNC he held a lot of power in that party. It's also worth noting Priebus served the shortest tenure of any non-interim chief of staff in American history... Trump likely gave him the "I'm firing you, unless you resign now" option.

 

[The Bread Guy]

... it's both sides, and 45 is in the middle ...

Really? If only he had a national platform, stage and media presence, where he could do something about that, right?

 

[QV]

Really? If only he had a national platform, stage and media presence, where he could do something about that, right?

That's tough when the majority of media are against you and outright lie about you. Surprising some folks haven't noticed that yet. There is a long list of media hoaxes related to Trump.

I believe it's on the public record, after Trump won his first term, the guy in charge of Foxnews (murdoch? - I don't recall) stated they were going to shut him out and make him a "non-person". At the time Fox was the largest platform for people leaning right.

Another data point supporting 45 being "middle": he was a lifelong registered Democrat before running for the Republican primary. He was never far left, and he certainly isn't far right. He's in the middle.

 

[The Bread Guy]

... after Trump won his first term, the guy in charge of Foxnews (murdoch? - I don't recall) stated they were going to shut him out and make him a "non-person". At the time Fox was the largest platform for people leaning right ...

I remember that, for sure, but that was then, and this is now ...

Rupert Murdoch Shows Up at Republican Convention

The media titan’s attendance in Milwaukee was another extraordinary turn in his contorted relationship with Donald J. Trump.

www.nytimes.com

How MAGA Took Back Murdochland

As Rupert appears to be once again amplifying the Republican ex-president, his heir, Lachlan, is being courted by Trump.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

... Another data point supporting 45 being "middle": he was a lifelong registered Democrat before running for the Republican primary. He was never far left, and he certainly isn't far right. He's in the middle.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.

 

[QV]

I'm happy to be corrected with facts (not media spin), otherwise I maintain 45 is more or less a centrist.

 

[QV]

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.

I'm happy to be corrected with facts (not media spin), otherwise I maintain 45 is more or less a centrist.

But I don't know why Murdoch is bending the knee now...

 

[The Bread Guy]

… But I don't know why Murdoch is bending the knee now...

I’ve heard it can be handy to back the winning team from time to time - whatever’ll sell clicks/papers, I suspect. AKA making a buck.

 

[dimsum]

I'm happy to be corrected with facts (not media spin), otherwise I maintain 45 is more or less a centrist.

But I don't know why Murdoch is bending the knee now...

How exactly would the facts on Trump’s positions be disseminated without the media, and how would one not call it “spin”?

Even Trump’s social media posts are distributed via the media.

 

[FSTO]

Good lord, Trump’s address is just…….wow.
I have no words to describe it.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Good lord, Trump’s address is just…….wow.
I have no words to describe it.

Apparently "long" is a better word than "wow". I suppose he's just going for a pure demonstration of endurance to compare to Biden.

 

[dimsum]

Good lord, Trump’s address is just…….wow.
I have no words to describe it.

How about interpretive dance?