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Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)
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I suspect the house of cards is starting to wobble pretty violently today. Question Period should be fun to watch....
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I doubt he cares very much.
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I think he'd call an election before he'd resign.....
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I spit coffee out over this one lol
daftandbarmy
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This former NDP lead isn't so confident...
'It's game over': Mulcair on confidence in Trudeau
Former NDP leader Tom Mulcair says its slim to none that Justin Trudeau will be able to carry the Liberal party into the next election.
'It's game over': Mulcair on confidence in Trudeau
Former NDP leader Tom Mulcair says its slim to none that Justin Trudeau will be able to carry the Liberal party into the next election.
ArmyRick
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I believe your very much in the minority on this line of thinking. I am willing to bet the vast majority of Canadians want an election yesterday. If not, then today will suffice.
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I would have rather had one a few months ago. I think now we need to wait until after Trump has settled in. My fear is that if we had an election now (i.e. Feb/March), the parties will be making a lot of promises/proposals based on what they think Trump is doing/going to be doing. The problem is, if he doesn't go in those directions, the new government could be left embarrassed, or worse, in a weak position. If we wait a few more months and see the direction he is really going, the parties can campaign on more realistic/effective responses to Trump. But, there is a fine line. An election too late could mean the LPC sets us down a path toward Trump that the CPC can't easily change (assuming it's a bad path, which I'm not convinced it would be, as I think the LPC did a good job of dealing with Trump v1.0).
daftandbarmy
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And the Coup de Grace....
'Justin Trudeau has lost control': Poilievre
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre says the government is spiraling out of control after Chrystia Freeland unexpectedly resigned.
'Justin Trudeau has lost control': Poilievre
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre says the government is spiraling out of control after Chrystia Freeland unexpectedly resigned.
Halifax Tar
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And our future PM responds:
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I am surprised he has weighed in - never interrupt your enemy when they're making mistakes...
Halifax Tar
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He's not saying anything new. I would say it's a commentary, not an interruption.
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I don't think its prudent to begin to think that what Trump says coming 'out of the gate' in the first 100 days in office (which for some reason is some panacea in the US of what the tone of the next 4 yrs will achieve) vs 6months, 12 months, 15 months, 18 months, 22 months, etc, etc, will really matter. Understanding that he entire shtick is to be seen as unpredictable, unbalanced and misunderstood/misinterpreted is the only way forward. That will be how he governs for the next 4yrs - unpredictable, unreliable and entirely with the intent to keep us (and the world) off-balanced.
Not having an election for the next 5-6 months will only serve to 'knee-cap' us, Trump will continuously hammer home the fact the Trudeau and his government is a 'lame duck' government, no enhanced spending on the border or the CAF will occur, a Federal budget will not be passed in April but will drag on until June-July, which is NOT what this country needs at this time.
The best approach is for the government to fall now and a new election be called within the current Federal parameters and for this country to begin to get its shit together - if that is possible, because currently, in my humble opinion we very well might be getting the 'One-Eyed King' leading us who live in the land of the blind and that 'one-eyed King' has cataracts and is slightly off-balanced himself.
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Deficit: 61.9 Billion????
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What?
As has been the case and will remain the case- it is not in the NDP’s interest to torpedo the current government for a Conservative majority. We can stomp our feet all we want and demand an election “Now!”, but if the NDP and most Liberals decide it’s in their interest to continue to prop up an LPC government with NDP support, then that shall remain the case.
Right now the Liberals whose seats are on the line but could still be kept would probably rather see the government stay in power for a bit longer, Trudeau announce he won’t run for reelection, and allow some time for their own electoral prospects to be decoupled at least partially from anti-Trudeau sentiment. Most will not be able to telegraph this desire in quite so spectacular a fashion as Freeland. But, only a few percentage points shift in sentiment in the election will save a number of LPC held seats where the margin is presently thin.
Facts over feelings. The Parliamentary calculus has not changed.
Right now the Liberals whose seats are on the line but could still be kept would probably rather see the government stay in power for a bit longer, Trudeau announce he won’t run for reelection, and allow some time for their own electoral prospects to be decoupled at least partially from anti-Trudeau sentiment. Most will not be able to telegraph this desire in quite so spectacular a fashion as Freeland. But, only a few percentage points shift in sentiment in the election will save a number of LPC held seats where the margin is presently thin.
Facts over feelings. The Parliamentary calculus has not changed.
Halifax Tar
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I don't want you to be right, but I fear you are.
lenaitch
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The PM has been openly courting Carney. When you're at a dance and your date starts eyeing up the competition, at some point you need to retain a shred of dignity (even if you are a politician).
If the PM is lucky enough to con Carney into sitting in the tent, I wonder if it would be as an unelected Cabinet member of he'll try and convince somebody to cough up their safe seat. I doubt Freeland would.
