Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[QV]

I had read somewhere (upthread, maybe?) that the party's mechanism to remove him as leader involuntarily had been it self removed. In short, the only way to get rid of him involuntarily would be through an election loss of his own seat. And, even if the LPC were to lose the next election, he would still be party leader unless he were to lose his seat, which, while unlikely, could happen.

Yes, I read that too. Still, I think the machinations behind the scenes will see influential people talk him into it. It will still be "his" decision.

 

[OldSolduer]

I vote both. And in the thrall of those who benefit from close ties to Beijing.

So incompetent. And a liar.

And an incompetent liar.

 

[Edward Campbell]

Sounds like the perfect reason to institute term limits. If they can't make it passed the 8-10 year mark anyway, why go through the charade of an election? Automatic new candidate. People like trudeau would have no way of hanging on, while acting like a bell end.

Except they aren't all Trudeaus, père ou fils. When, now and again, we get really good PMs - St Laurent or even Harper, we might be smart to hang on to them.

But, I think, that we have, de facto, adopted something similar by our own choice. Neither St Laurent nor Harper could hang on for more than a decade. Even Pierre Trudeau, with one of the best (albeit least honest) PR machines in political history, lost to Joe Clark - people were just tired of him.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Your PR machine can only cover your gaffes for so long, then it begins to work against you.

 

[lenaitch]

The concept of "term limits" is complicated by our 'confidence of the House' style of parliamentary democracy. A 'term' could be six months in a minority government. I do like the idea, however. Maybe a 'time' limit or 'session' limit (two and move on, regardless of length). Same for the Senate if we must keep it.

 

[Remius]

The concept of "term limits" is complicated by our 'confidence of the House' style of parliamentary democracy. A 'term' could be six months in a minority government. I do like the idea, however. Maybe a 'time' limit or 'session' limit (two and move on, regardless of length). Same for the Senate if we must keep it.

Set it in years as opposed to terms.

 

[ArmyRick]

Watched the Committee Hearing. What a joke this witness was.

Too long to post.

Public records contradict Boissonnault business associate’s testimony to ethics committee | Globalnews.ca

Cabinet minister Randy Boissonnault’s former business partner made statements to the parliamentary ethics committee that contradict public records.

globalnews.ca

Public records contradict Boissonnault business associate’s testimony to ethics committee - 30 Jul 24​

Stephen Anderson is an absolute lying POS

 

[Brad Sallows]

We don't need term limits; voters manage term limits themselves well enough.

 

[lenaitch]

Set it in years as opposed to terms.

That could potentially force a popular and majority government to fall mid-mandate.

 

[OldSolduer]

We don't need term limits; voters manage term limits themselves well enough.

What we need is a system that allows law enforcement and the Crown to prosecute dirty politicians and bureaucrats.

 

[YZT580]

What we need is a system that allows law enforcement and the Crown to prosecute dirty politicians and bureaucrats.

what we need is leaders.

 

[Halifax Tar]

He needs to take the hint…

Nope, leave him be. He's out best chance at being rid of this Government. And maybe even reset the LPC to party centrist party again!

I also want to see him take a loss.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

We don't need term limits; voters manage term limits themselves well enough.

Agreed. How would Term limits even work in a Westminister Democracy? To suggest it fundamentally misunderstands how our Parliamentary system works. Nobody is “running” for the office of Prime Minister.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Interesting choice of stops and events to partake of ...

Trudeau makes unscheduled stop at Vancouver's Pride events does not walk in parade

VANCOUVER — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made an unscheduled stop Sunday at Vancouver’s Pride festivities but did not walk in the annual downtown parade. Trudeau walked a block in city’s West End before the event’s official start. The prime minister stopped to shake hands and take selfies with...

toronto.citynews.ca

Maybe this was in play (from the article)?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Interesting choice of stops and events to partake of ...

Trudeau makes unscheduled stop at Vancouver's Pride events does not walk in parade

VANCOUVER — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made an unscheduled stop Sunday at Vancouver’s Pride festivities but did not walk in the annual downtown parade. Trudeau walked a block in city’s West End before the event’s official start. The prime minister stopped to shake hands and take selfies with...

toronto.citynews.ca

Maybe this was in play (from the article)?
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I have no idea what the truth is but I would suspect JT has solid support in places like Vancouver.

My perception is that they are strongholds of left leaning beliefs. I stand to be corrected though.

 

[The Bread Guy]

I have no idea what the truth is but I would suspect JT has solid support in places like Vancouver.

My perception is that they are strongholds of left leaning beliefs. I stand to be corrected though.

100% agree - my head scratch is over not participating in the Pride parade while he was there - ???

 

[The Bread Guy]

Hardcore hard-left site: he's not Marxist

Stop the Nonsense: Justin Trudeau Is No Marxist

Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre’s farcical labeling of Justin Trudeau as a communist echoes hysterical historical precedents. The rhetoric underscores a cynical misunderstanding of both Trudeau’s policies and communism.

jacobin.com

Latest in the "he's not left ENOUGH, dammit!" series, I guess.

 

[Kirkhill]

Hardcore hard-left site: he's not Marxist

Stop the Nonsense: Justin Trudeau Is No Marxist

Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre’s farcical labeling of Justin Trudeau as a communist echoes hysterical historical precedents. The rhetoric underscores a cynical misunderstanding of both Trudeau’s policies and communism.

jacobin.com

Latest in the "he's not left ENOUGH, dammit!" series, I guess.

"That's not a knife....."

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I have no idea what the truth is but I would suspect JT has solid support in places like Vancouver.

My perception is that they are strongholds of left leaning beliefs. I stand to be corrected though.

I would say stronger support, but not solid at all. Just listening to causal comments during my interactions at stores and on the street. A lot of people, from a lot of different groups are done with him.

 

[Remius]

I would say stronger support, but not solid at all. Just listening to causal comments during my interactions at stores and on the street. A lot of people, from a lot of different groups are done with him.

Most people I know that would otherwise support the LPC are also saying they are done with him.

People want a leadership change.