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Sounds more like an advertisement for selling the MiG-31...
The Russian Military Merged Thread- Air Force
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GreyMatter said:
Business is business but I focused on the "The press service of the Russian Air Force informed that the planes of the Russian strategic aviation during three days had exercises in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans. The pilots perfected the methods of interaction with the fighter aircraft, getting through the air defense of the opponent. Tu-95 and Tu-160 tested launching high precision bombs and cruise missiles in the test field Pemboi (near Vorkuta)." Been awhile since these terms have been used. Sometimes especially with the Russian/Soviet(s) it is not what is said but how it is said and who says it.
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3rd Herd said:
Agreed on that!
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Well here is the plan:
The usual disclaimer:
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29026620070817
Putin revives Russia's long-haul bomber flights
Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:59PM ISTBy Guy Faulconbridge
CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin said on Friday security threats had forced Russia to revive the Soviet-era practice of sending bomber aircraft on regular patrols beyond its borders.
Putin said 14 bombers had taken off simultaneously from airfields across Russia in the early hours of Friday on long-range missions.
"We have decided to restore flights by Russian strategic aviation on a permanent basis," Putin told reporters after inspecting joint military exercises with China and four Central Asian states in Russia's Ural mountains.
"Today, August 17 at 00:00 hours, 14 strategic bombers took to the air from seven airfields across the country, along with support and refuelling aircraft. .From today such patrols will be carried out on a regular basis.
"We hope our partners will treat this with understanding."
Many observers said the sorties were a sign of Russia's growing assertiveness and ambitions to restore its global reach.
Western militaries have said Russian long-range flights near their airspace were becoming more frequent after a long quiet period in the 1990s when Russia's military was struggling with under-funding.
One Western defence official called the flights "a little bit of chest-pounding, trying to let people know Russia is back in the game"................
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"Shortly before Mr Putin's announcement, a Russian air force official said long-range bombers were carrying out patrol flights Friday in various parts of the world.
"At present, there are several pairs of Tu-160 and Tu-95MC plans over the waters of the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, being escorted by NATO aircraft," ITAR-TASS quoted Russian Air Force spokesman Colonel Alexander Drobyshevski as saying.
"During the course of the day around 50 flights will be carried out," he said."http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/17/2008493.htm?section=justin
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"Mr. Putin said that 20 Russian bombers were involved in the exercise."
“Starting today, such tours of duty would be conducted regularly and on the strategic scale,” Mr. Putin said. “Our pilots have been grounded for too long, they are happy to start a new life.” http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070817.wrusbomber0817/BNStory/International/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20070817.wrusbomber0817
The usual disclaimer:
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29026620070817
Putin revives Russia's long-haul bomber flights
Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:59PM ISTBy Guy Faulconbridge
CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin said on Friday security threats had forced Russia to revive the Soviet-era practice of sending bomber aircraft on regular patrols beyond its borders.
Putin said 14 bombers had taken off simultaneously from airfields across Russia in the early hours of Friday on long-range missions.
"We have decided to restore flights by Russian strategic aviation on a permanent basis," Putin told reporters after inspecting joint military exercises with China and four Central Asian states in Russia's Ural mountains.
"Today, August 17 at 00:00 hours, 14 strategic bombers took to the air from seven airfields across the country, along with support and refuelling aircraft. .From today such patrols will be carried out on a regular basis.
"We hope our partners will treat this with understanding."
Many observers said the sorties were a sign of Russia's growing assertiveness and ambitions to restore its global reach.
Western militaries have said Russian long-range flights near their airspace were becoming more frequent after a long quiet period in the 1990s when Russia's military was struggling with under-funding.
One Western defence official called the flights "a little bit of chest-pounding, trying to let people know Russia is back in the game"................
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"Shortly before Mr Putin's announcement, a Russian air force official said long-range bombers were carrying out patrol flights Friday in various parts of the world.
"At present, there are several pairs of Tu-160 and Tu-95MC plans over the waters of the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, being escorted by NATO aircraft," ITAR-TASS quoted Russian Air Force spokesman Colonel Alexander Drobyshevski as saying.
"During the course of the day around 50 flights will be carried out," he said."http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/17/2008493.htm?section=justin
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"Mr. Putin said that 20 Russian bombers were involved in the exercise."
“Starting today, such tours of duty would be conducted regularly and on the strategic scale,” Mr. Putin said. “Our pilots have been grounded for too long, they are happy to start a new life.” http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070817.wrusbomber0817/BNStory/International/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20070817.wrusbomber0817
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3rd Herd said:
I love the way Putin justifies the RSA actions, the rhetoric is so transparent that it fools no one.
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Nice little summation:
Source:
Vladimir Putin rearms his Cold War military
By Gethin Chamberlain, Tim Shipman and Nick Holdsworth in Moscow, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 12:45am BST 19/08/2007
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/19/wputin119.xml
Source:
Vladimir Putin rearms his Cold War military
By Gethin Chamberlain, Tim Shipman and Nick Holdsworth in Moscow, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 12:45am BST 19/08/2007
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/19/wputin119.xml
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3rd Herd said:
8 SSBNs.........cool, ASW might not be dead after all !!!
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CDN,
you might want to link the "Bear Claws Back" thread with this. I have been attempting to keep this air related and the other navy related but I would not object to a single mega thread. And yes given some of the articles and Putin's views, and his reputed successors( yes I know Russia is now a democracy and holds free elections) views, yes I think ASW is crawling out of the grave after a premature burial.
you might want to link the "Bear Claws Back" thread with this. I have been attempting to keep this air related and the other navy related but I would not object to a single mega thread. And yes given some of the articles and Putin's views, and his reputed successors( yes I know Russia is now a democracy and holds free elections) views, yes I think ASW is crawling out of the grave after a premature burial.
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The usual disclaimer
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22289791-31477,00.html
RAF jets check Russian bombers
BRITAIN has scrambled its new Eurofighter Typhoon jets for the first time to intercept Russian nuclear bombers approaching British airspace, the Ministry of Defence in London said yesterday.
In a display of muscle-flexing on both sides, when two Russian Bear-H aircraft appeared on British horizons last Friday, two pound stg. 67million ($165.6 million) Typhoons, based at RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire, were scrambled to identify and shadow the unannounced arrivals, which turned back before reaching UK airspace.
With relations between Russia and Britain deteriorating, the number of incidents in which Russia's submarines have been found close to British shores or in contact with Royal Navy warships has also risen, reports said yesterday. London's Daily Telegraph said there was a suggestion Russia could be testing the West's air detection systems and response times.
Diplomatic tensions between London and Moscow -- already stretched by the murder in London of former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko -- intensified as the Bear bombers headed towards Britain. It was the first time Russian bombers had threatened to penetrate British airspace since President Vladimir Putin indicated, with no little chutzpah, that he had ordered his bomber force to resume long-range patrols around the world.
The arrival of the bombers over the North Atlantic forced the RAF to scramble its latest combat aircraft, the Typhoon, for the first time since becoming operational.
The fighter jets were officially put on active standby last month, ready to protect the UK from hijacked airliners and other threats from the skies.
At the weekend, Mr Putin said he was ending the 15-year suspension of bomber flights, and announced that 14 aircraft had taken off from seven airfields across Russia. The tough new stance was illustrated somewhat graphically by pictures of Mr Putin fishing topless.
There was irritation in the West: the announcement seemed to reflect Mr Putin's growing antipathy towards his Western partners and his determination to show that Moscow was once again a force to be reckoned with.
However, it was not the first time that Britain had been earmarked for Russian bomber flights. The Russians started sending long-range bombers towards British airspace earlier this year to snoop on a maritime exercise, recalling the Cold War days when Soviet strategic aircraft regularly tested Britain's air defence responses.
A dozen Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft are now on round-the-clock active duty at RAF Coningsby. The Typhoon, replacing the RAF's ageing fleet of Tornado F3 jets, will be at constant readiness to intercept any aircraft thought to be a threat, specifically a 9/11-style terrorist attack.
Tornado F3 jets based at RAF Leuchars in Scotland will share the same role over the northern UK airspace for six months yet before they too are replaced.
It will be at least another year before the fighter jet is ready for air-to-ground combat operations, which could see squadrons deployed to Afghanistan, RAF chiefs have said. The Typhoon was designed during the Cold War, with European leaders eager to outgun the Soviets in the sky.
Britain has ordered 144 Typhoons, which can reach Mach 2 (twice the speed of sound) and can accelerate from standing to take-off in under seven seconds.
The Times, Agencies
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it may just be more than the pilots that have been on the ground to long during the Cold War thaw
Russia Grounds Su-24s After Crash in Siberia
http://mnweekly.rian.ru/news/20070823/55269461.html
23/08/2007
MOSCOW (AFP) - Russia suspended all flights of its Su-24 frontline bombers after one of the planes crashed during a training flight in far eastern Siberia on Thursday, the Interfax news agency reported.
One of the planes crashed for unknown reasons early Thursday in the Khabarovsk region, though the pilot and crewman ejected safely, air force spokesman Alexander Drobyshevsky said. "The commander in chief of the air force has decided to stop Su-24 flights until the reason for the crash is established," he said.
Air force specialists "are leaning toward technical causes as the reason for the plane accident."
The Sukhoi-24, which carries a pilot and navigator, can be armed with conventional and nuclear bombs and rockets. It is one of the mainstays of the Russian air force and is also used in several ex-Soviet states and former Soviet allies.
Also:
Russian Air Force chief says technical failure caused Su-24 crash
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070823/73863374.html
Russia grounds Su-24 bombers after crash
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/08/23/europe/EU-GEN-Russia-Bombers-Grounded.php
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22289791-31477,00.html
RAF jets check Russian bombers
BRITAIN has scrambled its new Eurofighter Typhoon jets for the first time to intercept Russian nuclear bombers approaching British airspace, the Ministry of Defence in London said yesterday.
In a display of muscle-flexing on both sides, when two Russian Bear-H aircraft appeared on British horizons last Friday, two pound stg. 67million ($165.6 million) Typhoons, based at RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire, were scrambled to identify and shadow the unannounced arrivals, which turned back before reaching UK airspace.
With relations between Russia and Britain deteriorating, the number of incidents in which Russia's submarines have been found close to British shores or in contact with Royal Navy warships has also risen, reports said yesterday. London's Daily Telegraph said there was a suggestion Russia could be testing the West's air detection systems and response times.
Diplomatic tensions between London and Moscow -- already stretched by the murder in London of former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko -- intensified as the Bear bombers headed towards Britain. It was the first time Russian bombers had threatened to penetrate British airspace since President Vladimir Putin indicated, with no little chutzpah, that he had ordered his bomber force to resume long-range patrols around the world.
The arrival of the bombers over the North Atlantic forced the RAF to scramble its latest combat aircraft, the Typhoon, for the first time since becoming operational.
The fighter jets were officially put on active standby last month, ready to protect the UK from hijacked airliners and other threats from the skies.
At the weekend, Mr Putin said he was ending the 15-year suspension of bomber flights, and announced that 14 aircraft had taken off from seven airfields across Russia. The tough new stance was illustrated somewhat graphically by pictures of Mr Putin fishing topless.
There was irritation in the West: the announcement seemed to reflect Mr Putin's growing antipathy towards his Western partners and his determination to show that Moscow was once again a force to be reckoned with.
However, it was not the first time that Britain had been earmarked for Russian bomber flights. The Russians started sending long-range bombers towards British airspace earlier this year to snoop on a maritime exercise, recalling the Cold War days when Soviet strategic aircraft regularly tested Britain's air defence responses.
A dozen Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft are now on round-the-clock active duty at RAF Coningsby. The Typhoon, replacing the RAF's ageing fleet of Tornado F3 jets, will be at constant readiness to intercept any aircraft thought to be a threat, specifically a 9/11-style terrorist attack.
Tornado F3 jets based at RAF Leuchars in Scotland will share the same role over the northern UK airspace for six months yet before they too are replaced.
It will be at least another year before the fighter jet is ready for air-to-ground combat operations, which could see squadrons deployed to Afghanistan, RAF chiefs have said. The Typhoon was designed during the Cold War, with European leaders eager to outgun the Soviets in the sky.
Britain has ordered 144 Typhoons, which can reach Mach 2 (twice the speed of sound) and can accelerate from standing to take-off in under seven seconds.
The Times, Agencies
Edit to add:
it may just be more than the pilots that have been on the ground to long during the Cold War thaw
Russia Grounds Su-24s After Crash in Siberia
http://mnweekly.rian.ru/news/20070823/55269461.html
23/08/2007
MOSCOW (AFP) - Russia suspended all flights of its Su-24 frontline bombers after one of the planes crashed during a training flight in far eastern Siberia on Thursday, the Interfax news agency reported.
One of the planes crashed for unknown reasons early Thursday in the Khabarovsk region, though the pilot and crewman ejected safely, air force spokesman Alexander Drobyshevsky said. "The commander in chief of the air force has decided to stop Su-24 flights until the reason for the crash is established," he said.
Air force specialists "are leaning toward technical causes as the reason for the plane accident."
The Sukhoi-24, which carries a pilot and navigator, can be armed with conventional and nuclear bombs and rockets. It is one of the mainstays of the Russian air force and is also used in several ex-Soviet states and former Soviet allies.
Also:
Russian Air Force chief says technical failure caused Su-24 crash
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070823/73863374.html
Russia grounds Su-24 bombers after crash
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/08/23/europe/EU-GEN-Russia-Bombers-Grounded.php
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3rd Herd said:
Perhaps with the safety record of Russian subs, they are just sticking close to someone that could come to their rescue......
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3rd Herd said:
I find that confusing. When did ASW get buried and by whom?
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GreyMatter said:
close to 3 years ago when a certain wing commander stood and proclaimed ASW was dead.......this year when ASLEP was not funded..........i can go on if you want
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Getting tired of being the police for the fisheries department rather than dropping sonobouys looking for subs? :blotto:CDN Aviator said:
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uncle-midget-boyd said:
YUP !!!!
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CDN Aviator said:
I never heard that one before.
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Not that this should be a surprise to anyone here but...
Shared in accordance with the Fair Dealings Provisions of the Copyright Act. Here's the complete, original article: Guardian Unlimited - Moscow flexes its military muscle again, but few in west say it is fit for a fight.
Shared in accordance with the Fair Dealings Provisions of the Copyright Act. Here's the complete, original article: Guardian Unlimited - Moscow flexes its military muscle again, but few in west say it is fit for a fight.
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GreyMatter said:
I guess that Wing Commander hadn't looked at the recent figures of Submarine sales around the world. :
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Colin P said:I guess that Wing Commander hadn't looked at the recent figures of Submarine sales around the world. :
Canada's not too worried about those you know, after all Afghanistan is landlocked.
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Bit of anside but RAF 12 Bomber Group is using the Calgary airport for a base in conjunction with exercises in Suffield. CTV Calgary news this am did a story on it. So for you plane junkies how have not seen one. Checked and the is not yet a web link to the story.
