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Are there any reservists on the 1 VP tour?
GO!!! said:soldiers stick around means the reg force SUPPOSEDLY becomes more dependent on the militia.
As for the "style" of leadership that tells their troops that the reservists took their jobs - it is called the truthful style - and not being paternalistic and evasive when speaking to your men. We would rather the truth than a rambling, politically correct speech on the army's managed readiness plan. We can handle it - and we deserve to know.
60-80% of troops at the end of their BEs elect not to renew - why? Boredom!! If the infantry is so overworked, why are some soldiers not able to deploy in 3 years when we are at war?
There may be a terrible shortage of troops in the CSS trades, but this does not appear to be the case in the cbt arms.
GO!!! said:60-80% of troops at the end of their BEs elect not to renew - why? Boredom!!
GO!!! said:If the infantry is so overworked, why are some soldiers not able to deploy in 3 years when we are at war?
Kirkhill said:..... the CF spends its advertising dollars on ads that appeal to combat arms personnel, the very group that is apparently at the bottom of their list of needs.
GO!!! said:If we had a well manned and equipped reg force, the raising of a supplementary "nice to have" part time army would be a great idea. We dont, and the militia siphons off valuable resources and money, for little return, other than a sense of entitlement to pay benefits and career opportunities that are all to scarce in the regular units.
Haggis, you state that Reservists will likely not be first responders on DOMOPS, require massive re-training to bring up to speed for deployments, and require "improvement" if this is the case - why have them at all?
GO!!! said:Improving the militia? How about improving the reg force? We have infantry soldiers who are shooting less than 100 live rounds a year!! Ottawa says we now only require 88 rounds for the PWT practice and shoot!
GO!!! said:Haggis, you state that Reservists will likely not be first responders on DOMOPS, require massive re-training to bring up to speed for deployments, and require "improvement"
GO!!! said:if this is the case - why have them at all?
Haggis said:Without the Army Reserve, who would provide the depth and breadth capability to the Army? Would we again rob Reg F units of bayonets to fill these niche roles (CIMIC/PSYOPS etc.).
Make no mistake, GO!!!. I agree with you that priority has to go to bringing Reg F units up to speed. But maintaining a large standing army is an expensive proposition. That's why every modern military maintains a Reserve (which is usually far larger than its Reg F.) . Why should ours be treated/funded/equipped/trained so poorly in comparison to other nations?
GO!!! said:CIMIC and PSYOPS are tiny operations, on the latest tours in Afghanistan, as small as a platoon.
I fail to see your logic here - are you implying that reservists somehow posess a unique skill set in these areas that regulars could not be trained in?
This "breadth and depth" as you put it, is better invested in soldiers who are with the forces for the long haul, not ones for whom a deployment is an optional distraction from their civilian employment. We all know that militia retention problems are even worse than the regs, so how is this breadth and depth better invested in the shortest tenure soldiers we have?
Bad news Haggis, our military is already poorly treated/funded/equipped/trained. I just fail to see the point of maintaining a reserve structure that is undeployable in it's present state, consumes large amounts of scarce resources, and often removes the incentives for regular soldiers to continue serving.
There is no task that the militia outperforms regular troops. Not one. Yet they are given priority on deployments, to the detriment of morale, experience, training and advancement opportunities for soldiers who were committed enough to sign over three years of their lives, as opposed to cherry picking the tasks of their choice.
The militia may not outperform the reg force in any specific operation or task, but the reserve troops who do commit to overseas missions do just as good as any reg force soldier for the most part when they go on the same work-up training as the reg force guys do when they go overseas.
Britney Spears said:We've had a huge number of discussions that clearly disprove your assertion.
Britney Spears said:We've had a huge number of discussions that clearly disprove your assertion. You are in way over your head. How about you actually sign up, go on a tour and work with the regs in real world ops for a bit before spouting this garbage?
What makes the reg force different from the reserves is that we must take the good with the bad. Years between tours and fun courses, early morning PT, crappy taskings, february patrol exes in Wainwright, we have to do it all. That is the difference. We do not have the option to pick and choose.
the 48th regulator said:And we reservist must work the other five days at our civvy jobs, and pay the taxes for you to do that, then in turn show up on the weekend to do our training....
Reservists seem to be in short supply for the less sexy domestic work, although a horde of them will appear for a basic recce/para course, or the opportunity to deploy. Where is the team? Where is the desire to shoulder the load then?