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Why is it that sailors are so whiney?
The thought of Army guys working in field units earning full time field pay (identical to Aircrew Pay or Sea Pay) has some sailors all bent out of shape. Some feel they have to justify their sea pay to their Army brothers who question them. This is complete nonsense, we all want more money, but lets be reasonable.
Sea Pay is nice, but sailors do not earn it while sitting alongside, they are given it. If you are working hard alongside then you are doing your job besides most of the jobs alongside are "joe" jobs, cleaning, painting, re-organizing, then re-organizing again, and training (Wednesday's) there are some positions in dockyard that will have you working a hell of a lot harder than those on the ship. . They don't get sea pay, because they DON'T go to sea, PLUS they have to bring their own lunch! I have heard duty watch rumblings, please.... A duty watch on ship does mess with your schedule but you are given lunch, supper, and breakfast, and not to mention that the next day you are usually gone by lunch time (depends on the department, so put down the Kleenex). Having stood duty watches on the Victoria, I know how difficult they are... Lets see, we have the TV in the control room, you do rounds, you monitor various systems, and you play XBOX for the 8 hours you are off. Doesn't that sound rough? The only thing crappy about duty watch is sitting on the brow on the mids, but that alone doesn't justify full sea pay.
As a former sailor and submariner I know that sea pay is a joke, I know I shouldn't get it while on a 5 month long course, and if anyone else thinks they deserve it, they are just being greedy. I have stood duty watches on the surface and the submarine (sub duty watches are the cats ass, did 1 in 4 during a month long work period on the Victoria and I loved it.)
I certainly hope those Army guys who are sitting there watching fat a$$ sailors on course collecting sea pay get their full time field pay get their allowance backdated to Apr 07.
Perhaps the way the Navy administers sea pay needs to be adjusted. (ie. Immediately ceases when you are unfit, Immediately ceases when you go on course, Immediately ceases when you fail an expres test)
The thought of Army guys working in field units earning full time field pay (identical to Aircrew Pay or Sea Pay) has some sailors all bent out of shape. Some feel they have to justify their sea pay to their Army brothers who question them. This is complete nonsense, we all want more money, but lets be reasonable.
Sea Pay is nice, but sailors do not earn it while sitting alongside, they are given it. If you are working hard alongside then you are doing your job besides most of the jobs alongside are "joe" jobs, cleaning, painting, re-organizing, then re-organizing again, and training (Wednesday's) there are some positions in dockyard that will have you working a hell of a lot harder than those on the ship. . They don't get sea pay, because they DON'T go to sea, PLUS they have to bring their own lunch! I have heard duty watch rumblings, please.... A duty watch on ship does mess with your schedule but you are given lunch, supper, and breakfast, and not to mention that the next day you are usually gone by lunch time (depends on the department, so put down the Kleenex). Having stood duty watches on the Victoria, I know how difficult they are... Lets see, we have the TV in the control room, you do rounds, you monitor various systems, and you play XBOX for the 8 hours you are off. Doesn't that sound rough? The only thing crappy about duty watch is sitting on the brow on the mids, but that alone doesn't justify full sea pay.
As a former sailor and submariner I know that sea pay is a joke, I know I shouldn't get it while on a 5 month long course, and if anyone else thinks they deserve it, they are just being greedy. I have stood duty watches on the surface and the submarine (sub duty watches are the cats ass, did 1 in 4 during a month long work period on the Victoria and I loved it.)
I certainly hope those Army guys who are sitting there watching fat a$$ sailors on course collecting sea pay get their full time field pay get their allowance backdated to Apr 07.
Perhaps the way the Navy administers sea pay needs to be adjusted. (ie. Immediately ceases when you are unfit, Immediately ceases when you go on course, Immediately ceases when you fail an expres test)