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Scientific Groups Claims To Have DNA Proof Sasquatch is Real

Old Sweat

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Please don't shoot the messenger. I noticed a item on my provider's news site and did a google search. I am still not sure, but here is a link to a site that discusses the issue in balanced terms. You could also google the lead scientists name - Doctor Melba Ketchum - and that last name in itself gave me pause.

http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1228774&p=38611543
 
Old Sweat said:
Please don't shoot the messenger. I noticed a item on my provider's news site and did a google search. I am still not sure, but here is a link to a site that discusses the issue in balanced terms. You could also google the lead scientists name - Doctor Melba Ketchum - and that last name in itself gave me pause.

http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1228774&p=38611543

She's legit.  Just a bit off her rocker I think.
 
Agreed that she is legit. It's just the last name, which sounds like "Catch 'em" set off my BS detector.
 
Of course he's real.  I've seen his commercials for Jack Links.  ;D
 
He keeps stealing my cases of Kokanee, and replacing them with empties. 
 
Know several serious hunters who swear they have seen them. I don't doubt the possibility but doubt the lack of evidence which should be substantial by now.
 
If they do exist better to leave them alone. They obviously don't want to be found.
 
Colin P said:
Know several serious hunters who swear they have seen them. I don't doubt the possibility but doubt the lack of evidence which should be substantial by now.
A second cousin claims to have suddenly come F2F with a female way out in the woods near Kimberly BC.  He said that he did not know who went in the other direction faster, him or her.  :dunno:
 
Crantor said:
She's legit.  Just a bit off her rocker I think.

A scientist...off their rocker? really? who'd of thought.......
 
I think I may have served with one or two. If not, they could definitely be closely related to Sasquatch.  ;D
 
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While not trying to keep the story going, here is a link to a balanced assessment which lays out a number of possibilities including hoax and dna contamination, as well at that it might just be true. Do not reject the analysis just because it was published by Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/11/27/bigfoot-is-part-human-dna-study-claims/
 
Old Sweat said:
Do not reject the analysis just because it was published by Fox News.

That only makes it twice as likely than if published by CBC.  ;)
 
The National Post has picked up on it with a story that is not on the band wagon. It is reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act.

Bigfoot real and the result of human women mating with an ‘unknown hominin,’ claims U.S. study
National Post Staff | Nov 28, 2012 1:03 PM ET | Last Updated: Nov 28, 2012 2:58 PM ET
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Bigfoot is real, says a new genetics study out of the U.S. And not only that, but the creature known as the Sasquatch is the result of human women mating with an “unknown hominin” species about 15,000 years ago.

“The genome sequencing shows that Sasquatch mtDNA is identical to modern Homo sapiens, but Sasquatch nuDNA is a novel, unknown hominin related to Homo sapiens and other primate species,” said team leader veterinarian Dr. Melba S. Ketchum in a news release. “Our data indicate that the North American Sasquatch is a hybrid species, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens.”

Dr. Ketchum is a research scientist who specializes in forensics and genetics and is a published participant in the work to map the equine genome. She began testing on purported Bigfoot hair samples provided to her five years ago.

Obviously, there are many open questions about the study. It has not yet been peer reviewed and published in a scientific journal, meaning that the pure science behind the analysis is not yet known.

Additionally, as the L.A. Times points out, just because there are anomalies in the DNA does not mean that the DNA isn’t human.

“Human DNA plus some anomalies or unknowns does not equal an impossible human-ape hybrid,” Yale neurologist Dr. Steven Novella said on NeuroLogica Blog. ”It equals human DNA plus some anomalies.”

There is also the open question of where the DNA samples came from in the first place.

Of course, this hasn’t dampened the enthusiasm from the Bigfoot team.

“Government at all levels must recognize them as an indigenous people and immediately protect their human and Constitutional rights against those who would see in their physical and cultural differences a ‘license’ to hunt, trap, or kill them,” Dr. Ketchum said in her release.

So far, the U.S. government has not responded to the study.

THE FULL TEXT OF THE BIGFOOT RELEASE

A team of scientists can verify that their 5-year long DNA study, currently under peer-review, confirms the existence of a novel hominin hybrid species, commonly called “Bigfoot” or “Sasquatch,” living in North America. Researchers’ extensive DNA sequencing suggests that the legendary Sasquatch is a human relative that arose approximately 15,000 years ago as a hybrid cross of modern Homo sapiens with an unknown primate species.

The study was conducted by a team of experts in genetics, forensics, imaging and pathology, led by Dr. Melba S. Ketchum of Nacogdoches, TX. In response to recent interest in the study, Dr. Ketchum can confirm that her team has sequenced 3 complete Sasquatch nuclear genomes and determined the species is a human hybrid:

“Our study has sequenced 20 whole mitochondrial genomes and utilized next generation sequencing to obtain 3 whole nuclear genomes from purported Sasquatch samples. The genome sequencing shows that Sasquatch mtDNA is identical to modern Homo sapiens, but Sasquatch nuDNA is a novel, unknown hominin related to Homo sapiens and other primate species. Our data indicate that the North American Sasquatch is a hybrid species, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens.

Hominins are members of the taxonomic grouping Hominini, which includes all members of the genus Homo. Genetic testing has already ruled out Homo neanderthalis and the Denisova hominin as contributors to Sasquatch mtDNA or nuDNA. “The male progenitor that contributed the unknown sequence to this hybrid is unique as its DNA is more distantly removed from humans than other recently discovered hominins like the Denisovan individual,” explains Ketchum.

“Sasquatch nuclear DNA is incredibly novel and not at all what we had expected. While it has human nuclear DNA within its genome, there are also distinctly non-human, non-archaic hominin, and non-ape sequences. We describe it as a mosaic of human and novel non-human sequence. Further study is needed and is ongoing to better characterize and understand Sasquatch nuclear DNA.”

Ketchum is a veterinarian whose professional experience includes 27 years of research in genetics, including forensics. Early in her career she also practiced veterinary medicine, and she has previously been published as a participant in mapping the equine genome. She began testing the DNA of purported Sasquatch hair samples 5 years ago.

Ketchum calls on public officials and law enforcement to immediately recognize the Sasquatch as an indigenous people:

“Genetically, the Sasquatch are a human hybrid with unambiguously modern human maternal ancestry. Government at all levels must recognize them as an indigenous people and immediately protect their human and Constitutional rights against those who would see in their physical and cultural differences a ‘license’ to hunt, trap, or kill them.”

Full details of the study will be presented in the near future when the study manuscript publishes.
 
As I recall, apparently us people with red or strawberry blond hair are partial descendants of Neanderthals. Of course this begs the question is if the Sasquatch is real does the protection of their environment takes precedence over FN rights?
 
jollyjacktar said:
A second cousin claims to have suddenly come F2F with a female way out in the woods near Kimberly BC.  He said that he did not know who went in the other direction faster, him or her.  :dunno:

I've been to Kimberly on a Friday night. Is he sure it was a female bigfoot? 8)
 
Danjanou said:
I've been to Kimberly on a Friday night. Is he sure it was a female bigfoot? 8)
You could be onto something, although this was about 30+ years ago some thing never change.  ;)
 
Colin P said:
As I recall, apparently us people with red or strawberry blond hair are partial descendants of Neanderthals.

That would explain why I have so much trouble with technology.  :nod:
 
jollyjacktar said:
You could be onto something, although this was about 30+ years ago some thing never change.  ;)

Yaah that's when I was there give or take a year 8)
 
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