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Reserve Pension- Merged

The reply - seems pretty comprehensive. I was looking for a WILL be in Mar 07 vs a Targetted for Mar 07 ...... you can get your own copy by emailing the Pension office. PM me if you wish.

As per previous CANFORGEN 176/05 Pension Modernization including the introduction of the Reserve Force Pension Plan is targeted for Mar 07.

Web-based calculators for elections under Part I and Part I.1 of the CFSA are under development to allow members to obtain an estimate of the cost of an election and the resulting improvement in the pension benefit. The system will be based on data that members will be required to input, including attendance records and dates of promotion. Work on the calculators is progressing rapidly and it is anticipated that they will be available for use as soon as pension modernization comes into force.
You should be gathering your service records which you plan to use in support of an election to buy back earnings/pensionable service.
Use the attachment as a guide for preparing the required source documentation.

see the attachment - I marked the items orange/yellow for areas that may need work on your part.

Only you control your info - not so important for pers who don't have a lot of full time service. It just shows where you'll have to dig. If you do have lots of full time - you want to make sure your MPRR is up to date to your satisfaction. I don't see it mentioned but I have heard about asking for all your T4 slips from day 1 in the military - be it reg or reserve.....
 
54/102 CEF

Wow, that was a quick answer. Yes, it would be nice to know if it was WILL vice Targetted. Sounds like you got an automated answer, not a personal answer. I am ever the skeptic.
 
per my former Sgt, 01 March 07 is still the magic date.... whatever that's supposed to mean....
My suggestion, if you have copies of your old T4s - get copies made up... no denying how much you made - though it will include FOA and thus, you won't get credited 100% of it (I think).

CF 896 is a good document to get your hands on BUT, in LFQA records, clerks were told to stop updating them (bless their souls - cause they always refer to the doc, they have chosen to maintain them - in spite of instructions)

If you can get your hands on copies of your pay guides, and assuming they were well made up, this would be a good document to gather...

This is the time you should be gathering any and every record you can lay your hands on - so you can provide info when it is requested AND make informed decisions when options are offered to you.
 
Rifleman62 said:
54/102 CEF

Wow, that was a quick answer. Yes, it would be nice to know if it was WILL vice Targetted. Sounds like you got an automated answer, not a personal answer. I am ever the skeptic.

SKeptics? Stick with me! Its like the old joke of the service flights - you`re not going until you get there :)
 
It is evident that the 1.1 plan is not a DND priority BUT, given that the treasury Board has dictated that DND must get it done.... it will happen.
Reservists transfering to the Regs will benefit, potentialy, with their employer's contribution to the pension plan.
Full time reservists will have something they never had before..... and on which they never counted in obtaining.
Part time reservists will also get something they never counted upon......

Will it be worthwhile for newbies to sign up on this thing - you betcha
will it be worthwhile for old timers to sign up on this thing - possibly, probably - if, as the Project manager told me..... you put some $ in and the CF puts some $ in... sounds like a win, win situation.

Time will tell.... gather your documents.
 
Well Gunner, re your post 254, Oct 1 st has come and gone. Do you think the Mar 07 CIF date will be met. I do not.
 
If I ask around the puzzle palace, the offiial word is that all is on track for a March 07 implementation.

If I talk to friends and contacts working some issues related to implementation, and promise not to point fingers, I'm told "no bloody way".

 
Here is what I got yesterday from my unit:

http://hr3.ottawa-hull.mil.ca/dgcb/cfpmp/frgraph/faq_f.asp?sidesection=5

Reserve Force pension arrangements Update
From Ms Ann Gravelle, Director Pensions and Social Programs
Are you considering releasing now?
If you are a member of the Reserve Force who meets eligibility thresholds and wishes to participate in the Reserve Force Pension Plan, you will have to be a member of the CF on the day the new arrangements are scheduled to come into force.

Consequently, if at all possible, you should continue to serve in the Primary Reserve, the Cadet Instructor Cadre, or the Canadian Rangers.
If you are not able to continue serving in one of these three sub-components for any reason, including medical disability or compulsory retirement age, please contact your administration officer and or release clerk for information on transferring to the Supplementary Reserve in order to maintain your options concerning the Reserve Force Pension Plan.
Implementation day
We expect new pension arrangements for Reserve Force personnel to be implemented in March 2007.
Pension arrangements
Members of the Reserve Force will be able to choose between two sets of pension arrangements:
If you serve in the Reserve Force on a full-time basis for extended periods of time, you will be covered by Part I of the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act (CFSA). The threshold for Part I coverage will be 55 months of full-time Reserve Force service in a 60-month period.
Once under the provisions of Part I, you will remain under that Part as long as you continue to serve in the Reserve Force. The formula used to determine the pensions of Regular Force personnel will also be used to calculate the pension payable to members of the Reserve Force who have become contributors under CFSA Part I. Adjustments will be made taking into account any part-time service you may have performed.
Long-term, full-time Reservists, however, make up a very small part of the Reserve Force. If you are among the vast majority of Reserve Force personnel who serve on a part-time basis, your pension coverage will be provided by the Reserve Force Pension Plan set up under the authority of Part I.1 of the CFSA.
Reserve Force Pension Plan overview
Eligibility
Reserve Force personnel who serve on a part-time basis will become participants under the plan once they meet eligibility thresholds:
At implementation of the plan: If you are a serving member of the Reserve Force when the new plan is implemented, you will become a participant immediately if you have earned at least 10% of the year’s maximum pensionable earnings (YMPE) in two consecutive 12-month periods between April 1, 1999 and the plan’s implementation. You will have to have served continuously from April 1, 1999 to implementation. [The YMPE is annual maximum contributory level under the Canada Pension Plan (CPP), and it changes every year. The YMPE was $37 400 in 1999; in 2006, it is $42 100.]
After implementation: You will become a participant as soon as you have earned 10% of the YMPE in two consecutive 12-month periods.
Contributions
All participants under the plan will be required to make a specified rate of current service contributions to the ongoing cost of the plan. Earnings recognized under the plan include the regular pay for your rank, excluding any allowances but including any amounts you’ve been paid in lieu of leave. The same contribution rate will apply to all of your earnings, whether they are below or above the maximum level set under the CPP.
Annuity Calculation
Your annuity under the new plan will be calculated as a percentage of your updated career earnings. (Earnings will be updated by adjusting actual earnings by a wage index reflecting the increases in military pay over the years.) Updated earnings are totalled and multiplied by 1.5% to determine your lifetime annual pension.
There will also be a “bridge benefit” of 0.5% of the updated earnings, to the average maximum pensionable earnings (AMPE), which will be paid from the time the pension under the plan first goes into pay until you reach 65 or become entitled to a CPP/Quebec Pension Plan disability pension. [The AMPE is the average of the YMPE for the year in which you cease to be a contributor or a participant, and for the four preceding years.]

Table 1 illustrates what this all might look like:




  YEAR 
ACTUAL
PENSION-
ABLE
  EARNINGS



    YMPE*   


WAGE
MEASURE*
UPDATED
PENSION-
ABLE
EARNINGS** UPDATED
PENSION-
ABLE
EARNINGS
TO AMPE***
1989 $ 4900  $ 27 700 50.80  $ 10 183  $ 10 183 
1990 $ 3000  $ 28 900 54.50  $ 5811  $ 5811 
1991 $ 1500  $ 30 500 58.60  $ 2702  $ 2702 
1992 $ 1200  $ 32 200 58.60  $ 2162  $ 2162 
1993 $ 900  $ 33 400 60.36  $ 1574  $ 1574 
1994 $ 900  $ 34 400 60.36  $ 3148  $ 3148 
1995 $ 1800  $ 34 900 60.36  $ 3148  $ 3148 
1996 $ 2600  $ 35 400 60.36  $ 4547  $ 4547 
1997 $ 2500  $ 35 800 61.68  $ 4279  $ 4279 
1998 $ 1000  $ 36 900 80.82  $ 1300  $ 1300 
1999 $ 1000  $ 37 400 83.42  $ 1253  $ 1253 
2000 $ 4000  $ 37 600 89.52  $ 4632  $ 4632 
2001 $ 56 000  $ 38 300 89.52  $ 61 994  $ 41 360 
2002 $ 56 000  $ 39 100 97.72  $ 60 497  $ 41 360 
2003 $ 64 000  $ 39 900 101.64  $ 66 473  $ 41 360 
2004 $ 600  $ 40 500 104.18  $ 608  $ 608 
2005 $ 600  $ 41 100 104.18  $ 608  $ 608 
2006 $ 600  $ 42 100 107.31  $ 590  $ 590 
2007 $ 600  $ 43 200 110.53  $ 573  $ 573 

TOTAL $ 204 600  $ 236 082  $ 171 198 
X 1.5%  X 0.5% 
= ANNUAL LIFETIME PENSION OF  $ 3541 
plus ANNUAL BRIDGE BENEFIT OF    $ 856 
* The YMPE for 2007 and the wage measure for 2006 and 2007 are estimated.
**Total updated pensionable earnings cannot be less than the total pensionable earnings. Updated pensionable earnings are calculated as follows (an example for 1989): $10 183 = 4 900 X (110.53 + 107.31 + 104.18 + 104.18 + 101.64) / (50.80 X 5)
***The updated pensionable earnings for any year cannot be greater than the AMPE. AMPE = ($43 200 + $42 100 + $41 100 + $40 500 + $39 900) / 5 = $41 360
Note: The annual pension is a lifetime benefit, and one-twelfth of the annual amount is paid at the end of each month. There is also provision for paying annual indexing to cover any increases in the cost of living.

Your entitlements under the plan
The benefits available to you under the plan will include:
Immediate annuity: If you are a member of the Reserve Force who has been a participant under the plan for two years, you will collect an immediate annuity at the time you cease to be a participant if you:
• are 60;
• are 55 and have 30 years of pensionable service;
• have completed 25 years of paid service in the CF; or
• are disabled.
Deferred annuity: If you do not qualify for an immediate annuity but have been a participant under the plan for two years, you will collect an annuity starting at age 60.
Annual Allowance: If you are entitled to a deferred annuity, you may choose to receive pension payments as early as age 50, but there will be a reduction in the amount payable to reflect the longer payment period. This reduction will continue for life.
Transfer Value: If you are entitled to a deferred annuity and are younger than 50 when you cease to be a participant under the plan, you may transfer the lump sum value of your pension to another registered pension plan or locked-in retirement savings vehicle (such as an Registered Retirement Savings Plan).
Return of Contributions: If you have fewer than two years’ participation under the plan, you will be entitled to a refund of the contributions you paid under the plan, plus interest.
Other entitlements
Under the new plan, your eligible survivor and your dependant children will receive benefits on the same basis as those provided to eligible survivors of deceased Regular Force personnel.
All continuing pensions will be indexed at the same rate and under the same conditions as pensions payable to Regular Force personnel.
Election of prior earnings
If you have been a participant under the plan for two years, you will be eligible to elect to count the earnings associated with any past Reserve Force service. You will also be entitled to make an election to count the earnings associated with a period of Regular Force service for which you were paid a return of contributions. The cost of counting past service earnings and service will be based on the contribution rate that applies at the date the election is made, and earnings updated to the date of election, together with 7% compound interest. An election can be paid by either a lump sum or by life-insured instalments for up to 20 years or age 65, whichever is later.
Visit the Canadian Forces Pension Modernization Project or CFPMP (Intranet) for up-to-date information.


 
I am not going to believe THAT official. I would have more faith in friends and contacts who are working on some issues related to implementation. Officials WILL NOT answer a simple, direct question, yes or no to a CIF date of Mar 07.

schart28 received the "stock' answer as published in the Personnel Newsletter. Notice "Implementation day - We expect new pension arrangements for Reserve Force personnel to be implemented in March 2007". We expect and targeted mean the same; not a yes answer. They have missed the target too frequently, and will miss again.
 
This document made its way around my unit a few weeks ago.  Have you seen it already?
 
Here is info, cut & paste, from the Town Hall Forum, Talk To The Boss, on Army News. Two questions, from two different people ( not me).

Question: Simple question - the Reserve Force Pension is scheduled to come online March 2007 - recent literature has been silent on the status of the Reserve Force Gratuity.

Answer: Your question is beyond my area of expertise, I don’t want to give you a BS answer and would recommend that you go either to the pension website or to your chief clerk to get clarification for your question. The pension modernization people have stated that they are more than willing to come out and give presentations on the pension plan. Your unit or brigade may want to take advantage of their offer.

DC Tabbernor

Question: I appreciate that bringing in a pension for the reserve force is a gigantic task. Having said that, I would like to know why PRes members who have been in service prior to the change of qualifing pension time from 20 years to 25 years aren't being "grandfathered" to opt for either a 20 or 25 year service to be in line with the Regular Force.


Answer: My understanding of the pension plan is that you will have the option to buy back as much or as little of your previous service based on what you can afford, and based on what you and your financial advisor agree is best for you. Locking the pension into a specific time-frame such as 20 or 25 years could be a disadvantage to reservists. The pension people are more than willing to answer specific questions and will, if invited, visit your unit or brigade to provide you the most recent information on the pension. You can also find information on the pension website. This is one of those issues where I think we need to hold another town hall with a pension specialist who can answer your specific questions. I know this doesn’t provide you a complete and satisfactory answer, but the G1 personnel in your unit or brigade should be able to provide you more specifics.

DC Tabbernor

My question is: Who does know what is going on?  In Sept 05, I personnally asked the Chief of Reserves and Cadets, Gen Petras. He did not know. In Oct 06, I personnally asked the CDS. Now it appears Gen T, who is the  top Army Reserve in the CLS does not know what is going on. I can understand the CDS  " I have not been briefed lately",  due to more urgent matters, but the Chief of Reserves and Cadets, the top Army Reserve General in CLS? Why are they not pounding the table demanding more info, and that info being passed on? Do they represent the interests of Reserves or not?

Having the CFPMP come out and do a PPT presentation will be the PPT on the website. I was lucky to be one on one with a senior member of the CFPMP in Jun 06. Not much came out of it other than: March 07 is the target date; the buy back formula is on the websight; and if there is an election, all bets are off.

The buy back formula is flawed. The wage measure is based on Reg F rate of pay for a Cpl (Basic). The Reserves did not get 85% of Reg F pay, and the same pay incentives till 1999.

Bill C-37, which received Royal Assent on 21 September 2000, PENSION PLAN FOR MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT, the rate of interest used in calculating lump sum repayments of prior service contributions is prescribed by regulation (currently 4% per annum). So why are we being charged 7% compound interest? Notice the date of this legislation is 2000, and legislation for the Reserve pension was 1999. So there is precedence for 4% simple interest, and it is also the rate being charged on buy back now.
 
I just got emailed this link.  I don't recall seeing it here yet.  http://www.admfincs.forces.gc.ca/pension/reserveservice_e.asp?sel=rs



Prior Service Buyback for Reservists

Record of Reserve Service/Earnings - Purchase of Prior Reserve Service/Earnings

1.  Changes to the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act (CFSA) are expected to occur as of the CF Pension Plan
‘Coming Into Force’ (CIF) date. It is anticipated that members may be able to purchase prior pensionable earnings
/service in order to enhance their pension value, increase protection for their survivors, and to augment their
pensionable service, potentially allowing for an earlier retirement.

2.  The ‘Pension Services’ section will require pensionable service and earnings documentation to validate reserve
service/earnings for members who are electing to purchase prior reserve service/earnings.

3.  It should be noted that CFSA pensionable income differs from taxable income and Canada Pension Plan income.
As such, T-4 and Canada Pension Plan statements, while a good guideline for personal estimate purposes, are not
acceptable in the determination of ‘prior pensionable service and earnings’.

4.  In order to be administratively prepared at CIF, anticipated to be 1 March 2007, it is recommended that CF
members with previous reserve service start their research to acquire the necessary records as soon as possible.
A source document checklist has been
created to assist the CF member in his/her research.

5.  It is suggested that CF members should start their research efforts with the acquisition of any archived records which
may apply to them. As a result of archiving guidelines currently in effect, many pay and attendance records prior to the
automation of reserve pay may have been sent to Library and Archives Canada (LAC) by the various reserve units and
headquarters. It is recommended that members visit the following LAC website for the procedure required to request
military service information (index subject: CF after 1918) http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html
and complete the following LAC application for military service information http://www.collectionscanada.ca/obj/022/f2/022-909.007-e.pdf

6.  Further guidelines on this subject may be promulgated after Treasury Board approval of the regulations.
 
Some info for you. I have taken some personal measures to try and get attention to the issue of the Reserve pension. As I get info, ( if I get a reply ) it will be passed on. Lets keep this in the Family for now. If the Family does nothing, we will have other options. Enjoy. You have to get past references A to Z.  This info took some research.


Canadian Forces Pension Modernization Project
Coming Into Force Delay And Proposed Buyback Provisions

References:  A.  FMC 7200-1 (Pers) Reserve Force Compensation Study
Final Report 1985
B.  Mercer Report, Final Report To The Canadian Forces- Reserve Pension Plan
June 1989
C.  NDHQ 5794-7 (Adm (Per)) Reserve Personnel Integration Planning Team Study Report (RPIPT) 31 Jul 91
D.  NDHQ 5749-7-2 (ADM(Per)) Classes of Reserve Service Policy 22 Jul 92
E.  NDHQ 7402-52 (D Res) Personnel Planning Working Group (PPWG) on Reserve Force Compensation and Benefits 23 Sep 93
F.  Special Commission on the Restructuring of the Reserves (SCRR) 30 Oct 95
G.  Moving Forward: A Strategic Plan for Quality of Life Improvements in the Canadian Forces Oct 98
H.  5794 (SP01 D Res) An Integrated Total Force Compensation Pay and Benefits Package 13 Feb 99
I.   NDHQ DHRRE, QOL In The Reserves 1998: Attitudes of Reserves Towards Contributing To A Pension Plan Research Report 99-9  Jul 99
J.   Report on the Feasibility, Options, Plan Design and Implementation of a Pension Plan for the CF Reserves, William Mercer Ltd, 15 Dec 00
K.  1987 and 1994 Defence White Papers
L.  2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003 Annual Reports to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs on Quality of Life in the Canadian Forces
M. Annual Report CDS 1999-0, 2001-2, 2002-3, and 2003-4
N.  National Defence RPP 2002-3
O.  NDHQ AFC 2/01 Record Of Decisions 27 Feb 01
P.  Bill C-78 Public Sector Pension Investment Board Act 14 Sep 99
Q.  Bill C-55 An Act To Amend Certain Acts In Relation To Pensions and To Enact The Special Pension Arrangements Act and The Pension Benefits Act 29 Sep 92
R.  Bill C-37 An Act to Amend the CFSA and to Make Consequential Amendments To Other Acts 7 Nov 03
S.  Bill C-37 An Act To Amend the Parliament of Canada and the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act 21 Sep 00
T.  Pension Benefits Standards Act (PBSA) 1985
U.  Public Service Superannuation Act (PSSA) 1985
V.  Canadian Forces Superannuation Act (CFSA) 1985
W.  Report of the Major Variances of the CFSA In Relation To the Pension Benefits Standards Act circ 1995
X.  5000-2 (Rifleman62) Redress of Grievance 10 Jul 98
Y.  Chief of Defence Staff 7 Jan 02
Z.  ADM (PER) 068/97 CANFORGEN 102/97 291455Z OCT 97

1.      The two agencies that would normally deal with this matter, the CF Grievance Board, and the CF Ombudsman, cannot act on a complaint where no regulations, orders or instructions exist.

2.       I am writing to convey my tremendous disappointment with the Department’s handling of the Reserve pension issue.  It is very clear to me and many of my colleagues that despite what is said by our leadership, the quality of life of Reservists is not an obvious and significant priority for the Department.  If this were not so, I would not have to express to you the years of waiting that Reserves have been assured, yet denied a Reserve pension.

3. We in the CF are a small family, often called the Regimental Family. The Reserves, who make up 40% of the CF, are members of this family. With every casualty, we all feel the pain. 

4. There has been a magnitude of studies, references A – J, and legislation, references P and R, over at least a 20-year period on a Reserve pension.  Reserve members feel there is a lack of resolve to implement a fair and equitable pension plan on a timely basis.  Combined with delays, and a vacuum of current conclusive information, very many feel betrayed.  The phases “Total Force” (circ 1987) and “Putting People First”, as denoted at references K and M, appear to be hollow slogans.

5. “Currently, Reservists are the only part-time component of the federal Government without a pension plan” CDS Annual Report, 1999-2000, reference M. Bill C-55, introduced in 1992, reference Q, amended the PSSA to allow contributions by part time employees after 6 months service.  Highlights are:  prorated pension according to amount worked (service is not prorated, only the pension); participation based upon average work week (scheduled employment vice actual hours worked); requirement to work a minimum average of 12 hours per week; a grandfather clause; buyback of previous pensionable service from 1 Jan 1981; and the Supplementary Death Benefits Plan.  Back then Treasury Board President, Art Eggleton, commenting on the revised public service pensions, stated:  “It’s just a measure of fairness.”

6. Bill C-55 directed that part time employees of the Federal Government be provided access to a pension plan.  The Department was well aware of the proposed legislation and the effect it would have on DND and its civilian employees. However Bill C-55 failed to recognize Reservists specifically as part time employees of the Federal Government.  Enactment left Reservists with no pension accessibility. Reservists on operations and full time employment are working along-side public servants who have pension accessibility after 12 hours per week.  With all the studies and the acknowledgement of the requirement for a Reserve pension, it is incredible that the CF did not exercise due diligence and act immediately to rectify this inequity in 1992.

7. The studies and the legislation validate, categorically, the need for a pension for the Reserves.  Legislation at references P and R, legalize a Reserve pension.  The CF has been since 1985, and still is in breach of, the Pension Benefits Standard Act, reference T, and has acknowledged this at reference W.  Bill C-78 in 1999, reference P, introduced significant amendments to the CFSA which included the flexibility to create a pension plan for the Reserves through regulations as recommended in 1995 at references H and W.

8. In Sep 1999, reference N, the Minister of National Defence directed that a Reserve Pension Plan be implemented. To that end, a project was started. It is reasonable that the CF had the capability to have had regulations enacted to create a Reserve pension within 12 months, by Sept 2000.

9. Two of the four phases of Reserve Force Pension Project were completed, reference N, when a proposal was made to stop the stand-alone pension project.  A review of the CFSA to redefine pension arrangements for either full-time or part-time was commenced. AFC,  27 Feb 01, Record of Decisions, reference O, pension plan for the Reserve states “AFC agreed with the intent to modernise the CF pension plan to accommodate both full time and part-time service provided it can be accomplished without incurring additional delays.” Replying to SCONDVA in the 2002 Annual Report on QOL, reference L, it was stated that The Reserve Force Pension Project has been combined with the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act (CFSA) Review Project to establish the CFPMP.  This required new legislation, reference R, Bill C-37, Nov 2003.  Based on where we are today, the decision of AFC in Feb 01, has been ignored.

10. In 1992 legislation was enacted for pension accessibility for all Federal employees except Reserves.  In 1999, new legislation was enacted to establish a Reserve pension.  A Reserve pension has not been established to date, seven years later, violating the PBSA and the intent of Bill C-78.  The Department has already failed to deliver a Reserve pension despite numerous broadly communicated CIF dates. The Mar 07 CIF date appears to be in jeopardy. CMP will not answer a direct question regarding CIF date of Mar 07.  The Mar 07 CIF should be full implementation, not a token CIF.  The Reserves are integral to CF Operations, and three Reservists have been KIA without CFSA availability to their beneficiaries.  Some Reserve personnel must make life decisions regarding SISIP rehabilitation benefits which will only be granted once they are released from the CF. If they take that release before CIF, they will not be entitled to CFSA.

11. Reservists will be charged 7% compound interest on buyback of pension contributions.  That is a violation of the PSSA, and the CFSA, references U and V, and indeed what Members of Parliament, reference S, are charged.  The current rate in all cases is 4% simple interest.  An example of $100,000 total pension buyback amount (including 7% compound interest on contributions for all years to 2000) owing as of 2000, delayed payment to the CIF date of 2007, is an astronomical $60,578 in additional compound interest. Compound interest of 7% is punitive.

12. While awaiting CIF some former Reservists will be drawing income from their RRSPs that will have to be in some cases, completely liquidated to buyback the Reserve pension.  This draw down will mean a diminished rate of return even at the same interest rate, of the reduced principal value of the RRSP.  Concurrently 7% compound interest will be accumulating on the buyback amount.  Doubly punitive.

13.   I anticipate thousands of requests for Redress of Grievances upon CIF if the provisions of the Reserve pension do not match current government plans and legislation.

14. At this late date, Reservists are now being advised to acquire their pay records from archived records.  At the same time they are being advised that the RDS pay records from 1976 to the implementation in 1998 of the RPSR have to be reconstructed and will not be available by CIF.  Library and Archives Canada, in Jan 2006, advised “Please keep in mind that due to the lack of legislation governing record keeping practices, militia records were often destroyed.” Written requests to archives receive a reply that “clients should expect to wait six months for a response.” Why this is now being communicated to Reservists, and the fact that RDS records must be reconstructed, three years after Bill C-37 was enacted, and four months from the Mar 07 CIF date is truly remarkable.

15. References X and Y are my 1998 request for Redress of Grievance regarding the denial of the right and opportunity to contribute to a Reserve pension plan.  The then- CDS’s reply took 43 months to state, “I support your grievance, however I do not have the authority to grant redress on this matter” due to current CFSA regulations.  All legislation is now in force, has been since 1999, and a Reserve pension is still not in force.

16. Reference Z, while not on the subject of pensions, rather restricted release policy, states at Para 3:  “The MND, CDS, and ADM(PER) have made it quite clear that indiv mbrs of the CF will not suffer as result of poor administration or bad advice of either the chain of command or NDHQ directorates.”  Has this policy changed?

17. Two Principals of Leadership:  “Keep subordinates informed; explain events and decisions” and “Treat subordinates fairly; respond to their concerns; represent their interests” must be executed.

18. Reservists cannot discern the information they require to make life time decisions, due to a distinct lack of communication of explicit facts. Very little conclusive information is available on the CFPMP website. The PowerPoint presentation is current as of March 06. The CF Pension Home Page, Calculating Your Pension, is horribly out of date, and is limited to some members of the Regular Force only. There is no information on how to calculate buyback other than it will be calculated with 7% compound interest. Is the Reserve Force Retirement Gratuity grandfathered for current members as stated at reference N?  There is a wall of secrecy. There would be many questions on the fairness of the Reserve pension, if Reservists knew the facts. We do not.

19. Reservists must be equal members of the CF. A Reserve pension must be non-discriminatory and equitable.  The Department must reverse the punitive 7% compound interest to be charged on buyback to the current 4% simple interest rate. The Department must not compel Reservists to pay any interest charges on buyback commencing Sep 99, when Bill C-78 legislated a pension for Reserves. It is the Department that failed to bring in a Reserve pension. Reservists must not pay the penalty IAW reference Z.


 
Here is my Redress Of Grievance,  Case Summaries,  from the CF Grievance Board website. The CDS reply, reference Y of the letter in the previous post, is dated 7 Jan 02.  Note that Board
"further recommends that the process of implementation of a Reserve pension plan be accelerated as much as possible to ensure that reservists are entitled to fair and equitable treatment as compared to their peers from the Regular Force." and the CDS states "However, he instructed the ADM (HR-Mil) to examine the findings and track the process."
Jan 02, now coming up to Jan 07. Some acceleration!!

Case Summaries
Pension Entitlements
The grievor considered having been unjustly treated by being denied the right and opportunity to contribute to a Reserve pension plan.
The grievor has been a member of the Primary Reserve for many years. As a reservist, he is not entitled to contribute to a pension plan. The Canadian Forces Superannuation Act (CFSA) provides for contribution to a pension plan only for members of the Regular Force. In October 1998, the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs recommended that the Department of National Defence “pursue initiatives to put in place a real pension plan for the Reserves”. In September 1999, the Public Sector Pension Investment Board Act was given royal assent and provided amendments to the CFSA to allow for the creation of a Reserve Force pension plan. However, those provisions are not yet into force, and consequently, regulations to that effect have not yet been adopted.
The Board finds that some of the legal instruments that will allow reservists to contribute to a pension plan are in place. However, these provisions have yet to come into force. Whey they do come into force, the Governor in Council may make the necessary regulations outlining the parameters of a pension plan for reservists. Although the Board agrees with the grievor that a pension plan should be created to ensure fair and equitable treatment of reservists vis-à-vis members of the Regular Force, the Board finds that it cannot recommend upholding the grievance. Although the Reserve Force Retirement Gratuity, which came into force in April 1997, was established to offer additional benefits to the members of the Reserve Force retiring after having served a number of years with the CF, the Board finds this initiative to be a step in the right direction in providing benefits to which reservists are justly entitled to, and which are comparable with those of the Regular Force members.
The Board recommends that the grievance be denied. The Board further recommends that the process of implementation of a Reserve pension plan be accelerated as much as possible to ensure that reservists are entitled to fair and equitable treatment as compared to their peers from the Regular Force.
CDS DECISION
The CDS agrees with the Board's findings and recommendation, and deny the grievance. However, he instructed the ADM (HR-Mil) to examine the findings and track the process

 
On the subject of source documents:

The contract for data restoration for the RDS files was let last week.  The company now has a sample of the RDS tapes to begin their assessment and develop a work plan.  Estimates are that the work will begin in early December, and should be completed in approximately 6 months.
 
David,
The operative word is "should be". Why is just being done now? Why now, not 1999 or 2003? What happens if the company does not achieve the target date? If the company has just got a sample of RDS tapes to begin their assessment and develop a work plan, how can they say at this point 6 months for completion?
 
Ack to all your points.  (In fact, I just had the same discussion with another person).  NDHQ deals with most issues in small slices, with different folks responsible for different slices, and co-ordination mostly absent.  Thus, the pension project defines the rules, but someone else (the Military pay folks) has to make them work.  If the pension rules are not communicated until late in the game, the Mil Pay folks wait, and wait, and then press "go" and discover they can't read the records, and therefore must hire someone else to restore the records.... but contracts take time to issue, further delaying things.  And no one will lean forward... unless something is a priority, with support from the top levels of the department.

Note that in this case I'm just passing along the info I've got; given the IP that I'm posting from I try to moderate my opinions...
 
Rifleman,I thank you and also salute you for your research on our quest which we have asked for many year's.

I joined the Militia in 1976 when a half day's pay was what? $6.00 and a full day was $12.00 for a full day.
I,and by the sound's of it you are one of the few other's have stuck it through thick and thin and have kept our Unit's alive even while our support from Faulty Towers was close to nil but alas we kept our Unit's alive.

Me think's Faulty Towers should reread the honour roll's of WWI,WWII.
Yes that is where we Militia come from. :cdn: :salute:
Our Past and we serve for our Future as the few the Poud the Militia.

UBIQUE
(We have and will serve every where)
 
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