Preserving Army Fleets

[Colin Parkinson]

As I understand it two main reasons 1) Larger USA presence in Poland 2) Poland getting Abrams.
Poland being closer to Russia as well - it is a shorter road move if Push comes to Shove...

Down side is it puts your Depots in range of more Russian missiles, with a shorter response time.

 

[KevinB]

Down side is it puts your Depots in range of more Russian missiles, with a shorter response time.

I suspect we’d know a lot before the missile crews if they were launching…

 

[DBNSG]

So while driving to Cape Breton and back for work in the last two days I passed a total of five Civilian flatbeds moving in total 8 obviously retired M113's and two Cougars. All heading towards Halifax on the 102. The M113's were all missing tracks and roadwheels but were remarkably still green painted as if travelling from a sheltered space . The Cougars still had all eight wheels . Would these items be on their way to Ukraine as spare parts?

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Another post apocalyptic movie being shot in Halifax, perhaps?

 

[daftandbarmy]

So while driving to Cape Breton and back for work in the last two days I passed a total of five Civilian flatbeds moving in total 8 obviously retired M113's and two Cougars. All heading towards Halifax on the 102. The M113's were all missing tracks and roadwheels but were remarkably still green painted as if travelling from a sheltered space . The Cougars still had all eight wheels . Would these items be on their way to Ukraine as spare parts?

The Conservatives just crushed the Liberals in an election... maybe it was a Plan B of some kind

‘Falls on my shoulders’: Churchill apologetic after Liberals crushed in N.S. election - Halifax | Globalnews.ca

Zach Churchill's Liberals were dealt a devastating loss in the Nova Scotia election — dropping to third-party status. Churchill lost his own seat in Yarmouth by 14 votes.

globalnews.ca

 

[DBNSG]

The Conservatives just crushed the Liberals in an election... maybe it was a Plan B of some kind

‘Falls on my shoulders’: Churchill apologetic after Liberals crushed in N.S. election - Halifax | Globalnews.ca

Zach Churchill's Liberals were dealt a devastating loss in the Nova Scotia election — dropping to third-party status. Churchill lost his own seat in Yarmouth by 14 votes.

globalnews.ca

Well all the Provincial Liberals needed was a two man dinghy. The M113's could be boat Anchors?

 

[lenaitch]

New equipment for the reserves?

 

[SeaKingTacco]

New equipment for the reserves?

You army guys need to stop that. Really.

It is new equipment for the ARMY. Some of it operated by full-timers. Some of it operated by part-timers.

 

[DBNSG]

So while driving to Cape Breton and back for work in the last two days I passed a total of five Civilian flatbeds moving in total 8 obviously retired M113's and two Cougars. All heading towards Halifax on the 102. The M113's were all missing tracks and roadwheels but were remarkably still green painted as if travelling from a sheltered space . The Cougars still had all eight wheels . Would these items be on their way to Ukraine as spare parts?

So over on another Site I look into (Shipfax) the gear I saw on the 102 the other day is sitting on Pier 9 in Halifax. Car Carriers usually drop off or pickup outsized or unusual cargo from that pier.

 

[lenaitch]

You army guys need to stop that. Really.

It is new equipment for the ARMY. Some of it operated by full-timers. Some of it operated by part-timers.

So to disappoint; I'm an outsider. It was just a riff on the Reserves getting outdated hand-me-downs.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

So to disappoint; I'm an outsider. It was just a riff on the Reserves getting outdated hand-me-downs.

Sure, sorry. That second sentence is exactly the attitude that needs to stop. There is one Army. Full-Stop.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Sure, sorry. That second sentence is exactly the attitude that needs to stop. There is one Army. Full-Stop.

To be said in your 'Wizard Voice', ending with the following word of command

 

[Kirkhill]

Sure, sorry. That second sentence is exactly the attitude that needs to stop. There is one Army. Full-Stop.

I was a Militia Rat. I left prior to the Total Force army (D9 and the Militia were not compatible).

I have watched the Army and the Reserves (Militia) struggle with trying to create one army out of two very distinct cultures for the best part of 40 years.

At bottom, in my opinion, there are two fundamental issues.

1: 34 days per year versus a 365 day per year commitment.
2: Voluntary association versus contractual association.

The government can make demands of its contracted forces that it can't of its voluntary forces.
There is no way in this world or the next that it is possible to replicate the full array of skills found in a 365 day a year force in 34 days.
You can't get there from here.

Something has to give.

In my view that means lowering the expectations of the Reserves and accepting that while the Reserves can do some jobs with supervision other jobs will require a massive training delta. And, perhaps, different security clearance standards. Physical fitness standards should be common.