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It’s the end of Ukraine.
Ira pretty clear Trump (1) doesn’t want to disappoint Putin and (2) Vance is about as anti Ukrainian as they come. For Vance it seems like border line hatred of Ukrainians.
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Ira pretty clear Trump (1) doesn’t want to disappoint Putin and (2) Vance is about as anti Ukrainian as they come. For Vance it seems like border line hatred of Ukrainians.
GK .Dundas
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Donald Trump is not a disrupter....he's an arsonist....
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Well he f*cked that up pretty good. Now Europe better step up or NATO is done.
Wild prediction- Turkey and Poland enter on the side of Ukraine and the US starts disrupting Ukraine militarily. Cuts off arms, munitions, intelligence, Starlink etc., provides intelligence and targeting information to Russia.
Wild prediction- Turkey and Poland enter on the side of Ukraine and the US starts disrupting Ukraine militarily. Cuts off arms, munitions, intelligence, Starlink etc., provides intelligence and targeting information to Russia.
Czech_pivo
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Damn, I missed it and I can't find any clips of it
It’s insane.
Czech_pivo
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If its not 100% evident right now that the US, for the next 4yrs (hopefully), can't be relied on by the rest of the West, I don't know what will wake them up.
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I doubt even he could save that meeting from what happened lol.
Czech_pivo
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I'm trying to process what just happen and myriad of possible next steps that this may lead to - none very good.
The Europeans need to fully realise that they know must take up the mantle to defend Ukraine or they will be seen as completely, utterly emasculated around the rest of the world. We are now living in very very dangerous times
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6:45PM
The leaders were due to hold a joint press conference after bilateral talks over a rare mineral deal, but that media op has now been cancelled.
As the Ukrainian leader departed, he shouted towards cameras on the White House lawn, but his worlds could not immediately be made out.
6:58PM
Zelensky leaves White House early
Volodymyr Zelensky has left the White House early after a war of words broke out with Donald Trump and JD Vance.The leaders were due to hold a joint press conference after bilateral talks over a rare mineral deal, but that media op has now been cancelled.
As the Ukrainian leader departed, he shouted towards cameras on the White House lawn, but his worlds could not immediately be made out.
6:58PM
Polish PM expresses solidarity with Ukraine
Poland taking a look at the Geneva checklist….
Czech_pivo
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Maybe now the EU steps up and makes this critical mineral deal with Ukraine that Trump has a hard on for. Box out the US, funnel arms/money into Ukraine and bleed Russia dry.
My head is still spinning from what I watched. I thought Macron grabbing Trump by the arm in the Oval Office and correcting him live on US television was earth shattering - but this, this was a case of 'hold my beer, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Time to have a meeting with Euro leadership, JP, SK, ANZAC and start planning the next 20 years without the USA.
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