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B-52's laugh in JP-4Iowa gets activated for the third time at nearly 100 years old:
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JP-8/100B-52's laugh in JP-4
Oh I don't know. They carry a lot of missiles (80 VLS) still and are probably better placed to deal with USV's then other ships in the USN. We also have to start thinking in terms of the Task Group team with the insert of CEC instead of ships on their own. What does a Zumwalt bring to the table in terms of Task Group resources/capability?They have reported to be very capable vessels with regard to their hulls, seakeeping, speed, stealth, acoustic signatures and missile batteries however, there is some issues like lacking certain radars that puts them at a bit of a disadvantage now that things are back to peer to peer conflicts.
Meanwhile , USS New Jersey:Iowa gets activated for the third time at nearly 100 years old:
CDR: "Is there going to be a follow on to the class? People have been talking about a Corvette type ship."
VAdm Topshee: "The nuance that I would offer is that the MCDV replacement will not be an MCDV. We have started some theorizing around what would a Canadian Multi-mission Corvette look like? It's a nod to our history and I love the fact that we were a corvette and destroyer navy in the Second World War. What we're probably building is something that's going to be more capable than what might come to mind with a corvette because it has to be a real warship. The driving philosophy behind whatever comes is that it needs to be what we could not quickly replicate in a time of war. I think what we need to make sure we do with what's being called the Canadian Multi-mission Corvette, is figure out the core sort of warship systems that we need to have, the type of thing that you can't build quickly in wartime. The first part of any project is always that sort of initial identification of requirements, and that's very much the phase of the thinking that we're at right now.
VAdm Topshee giving some thoughts regarding the MCDV replacement with his recent interview with the Canadian Defence Review. From classifying the CSC as a destroyer and now speaking of corvettes and WWII, Topshee seems to have some romantic ideas of the RCN of the past and is looking to carry some things forward. I am somewhat worried about these ideas about "more capable than what might come to mind with a corvette because it has to be a real warship."
Replacing the MCDV with something that isn't the MCDV is a disaster in the making potentially, everything from overly complex, feature kept designs to encroaching on the CSC program and resulting in cuts there. I hope the RCN is treading carefully with the MCDV replacement program, the potential for another mess seems high with this attitude.
Word has it that the VAdm's latest contribution was that we are classifying the River Class as destroyers. Apparently the new RCN march to replace Heart of Oak was also his as well.VAdm Topshee giving some thoughts regarding the MCDV replacement with his recent interview with the Canadian Defence Review. From classifying the CSC as a destroyer and now speaking of corvettes and WWII, Topshee seems to have some romantic ideas of the RCN of the past and is looking to carry some things forward. I am somewhat worried about these ideas about "more capable than what might come to mind with a corvette because it has to be a real warship."
Replacing the MCDV with something that isn't the MCDV is a disaster in the making potentially, everything from overly complex, feature kept designs to encroaching on the CSC program and resulting in cuts there. I hope the RCN is treading carefully with the MCDV replacement program, the potential for another mess seems high with this attitude.
How's that? Halifax parking was paid when I was there in 2017-19.Don't forget, he also brought paid parking to Halifax.
That's crazy that you have to pay for parking on GoC land as a GoC employee. The ONLY cost, if at all, should be from a cost recovery aspect - parking fee should be equal to the annual maintenance cost to maintain the lot and the salary of the parking attendants.How's that? Halifax parking was paid when I was there in 2017-19.
Edit: and you couldn't get a parking pass until you had 10 years of service. Halifax parking has been screwed up for the better part of the last 20 years.
He was the base commander when paid parking was implemented, it was a dumpster fire. When I got in it was 5 years and we had more people.How's that? Halifax parking was paid when I was there in 2017-19.
Edit: and you couldn't get a parking pass until you had 10 years of service. Halifax parking has been screwed up for the better part of the last 20 years.
Concept of Operations for the next ship project is still being written. I don't say MCDV replacement because I think that in the military sense we aren't going to replace the MCDV's. The CAF replaces capabilities (or lets them lapse) not platforms. If something comes along and does the same job but better then we'll switch to that (battleship replaced by aircraftcarrier as a classic navy example)VAdm Topshee giving some thoughts regarding the MCDV replacement with his recent interview with the Canadian Defence Review. From classifying the CSC as a destroyer and now speaking of corvettes and WWII, Topshee seems to have some romantic ideas of the RCN of the past and is looking to carry some things forward. I am somewhat worried about these ideas about "more capable than what might come to mind with a corvette because it has to be a real warship."
Replacing the MCDV with something that isn't the MCDV is a disaster in the making potentially, everything from overly complex, feature kept designs to encroaching on the CSC program and resulting in cuts there. I hope the RCN is treading carefully with the MCDV replacement program, the potential for another mess seems high with this attitude.
They were called destroyers before he rubber stamped it. Because they lean more to Command Control AAW then GP. So the nomenclature is correct. Not sure about the H of DDGH. Could have just left them at DDG but meh.Word has it that the VAdm's latest contribution was that we are classifying the River Class as destroyers. Apparently the new RCN march to replace Heart of Oak was also his as well.
Have a listen to what Emily has to say. The roots of the issues plaguing the warship design and production are very common.
Do they want something that can take on more roles than an MCDV does now, if so, what would those roles be? FONOPS in the SCS, possibly? Or is it that they just want a platform that addresses the class’s shortcomings to be able to better perform the tasking it does now. How much of a difference on Op CARIBBE does a 7-10 kt speed increase make, for instance? I’m sure more space for an embarked LEDET would be an asset as well.VAdm Topshee giving some thoughts regarding the MCDV replacement with his recent interview with the Canadian Defence Review. From classifying the CSC as a destroyer and now speaking of corvettes and WWII, Topshee seems to have some romantic ideas of the RCN of the past and is looking to carry some things forward. I am somewhat worried about these ideas about "more capable than what might come to mind with a corvette because it has to be a real warship."
Replacing the MCDV with something that isn't the MCDV is a disaster in the making potentially, everything from overly complex, feature kept designs to encroaching on the CSC program and resulting in cuts there. I hope the RCN is treading carefully with the MCDV replacement program, the potential for another mess seems high with this attitude.
As a complete navy ignoramus, what does a modern corvette entail vis-à-vis a second world war corvette? I'm familiar with the armament, capabilities, etc of the Flower-class, is it similar in scope to be used mainly for pickets and convoy escort?Concept of Operations for the next ship project is still being written. I don't say MCDV replacement because I think that in the military sense we aren't going to replace the MCDV's. The CAF replaces capabilities (or lets them lapse) not platforms. If something comes along and does the same job but better then we'll switch to that (battleship replaced by aircraftcarrier as a classic navy example)
I would argue that the MCDV's (capability wise) are already in the process of being replaced. The AOPS have the vast majority of MCDV capabilities just better. Better sensors, range, speed, weapons, modular capability, etc... They do cost more and there are less of them (hulls matter). They are a better platform for embarking USCG counter drug teams, trialing new technologies, are more future proof (space and power), and much more.
So whatever hulls we have that need to come after the MCDV's don't need to replace all those capabilities, they need to augment them, augment the CSC, do some capabilities better, perhaps replace another capability or add a new capability/fill in a gap.
I think the RCN thinking about going the RAN route. A tier 2 combatant to augment the tier 1 CSC.
I also think that VAdm Topshee is referring to a proper modern corvette with weapons/damage control capabilities beyond WW2 style corvettes. Remember he's talking to a civilian and the Canadian Historical Zeitgeist remembers corvettes a whalers with wooden guns and depth charges.
Aslo there is only one combatant builder approved under the NSPS, and that's Irving. Their dance card seems pretty full right now.
They were called destroyers before he rubber stamped it. Because they lean more to Command Control AAW then GP. So the nomenclature is correct. Not sure about the H of DDGH. Could have just left them at DDG but meh.
So he got Treasury Board to make a Halifax Parking Policy, did he? Pretty powerful for 4 ring Base Commander, don’t you think?Don't forget, he also brought paid parking to Halifax.
Look, if you're going to insist on logic and facts you'll never succeed on the internet.So he got Treasury Board to make a Halifax Parking Policy, did he? Pretty powerful for 4 ring Base Commander, don’t you think?
Or was he the guy in the seat when the music stopped and he enforced the policy Treasury Board set years before, but nobody enforced?
You brought it up.Look, if you're going to insist on logic and facts you'll never succeed on the internet.
Modern corvettes to frigates are like modern frigates to destroyers. The dividing line is a bit fuzzy.As a complete navy ignoramus, what does a modern corvette entail vis-à-vis a second world war corvette? I'm familiar with the armament, capabilities, etc of the Flower-class, is it similar in scope to be used mainly for pickets and convoy escort?
Would something like this be good for the RCN or is it too big?
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