Navy Commander Busted For Net-Porn

[RCA]

And the reason for discplanary action-

Unless the navy is any different than the army, you sign a contract upon receipt of a computer and/or account that you will not misuse it. And that is the one and only reason for action in this case .

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Infanteer-

That was excellent! Unfortunately, I think some spin doctor in the puzzle palace has already plagerized your response and has it on file for immediate release in the near future.

You‘ve created a dilemma for me. Do I flick my butts out the Iltis door, running the chance of a littering fine and by extention, severe carreer action (possible courts martial) for incurring a civie charge while in uniform :crybaby: . Or do I field strip my butts, keeping numerous butts in my map pocket, for use as evidence, when charged for dereliction of duty. I only wonder because any day now, I expect to see PC Officers posted to each low level organization throughout the forces. Their job description will be taken verbatum from the aide de memoire used by the Gen Force Political Officers who travelled with our opposite numbers during the Cold War. Their only job will be to ensure politcal correctness amongst the troops and ensure we tow the party line. :boring: writing each transgression in their secret squirrel book for future use during the purge Of course this will be their only job and they will not get involved in the day to day activities of soldiering, hence just another waste of rations OOPs, someone may be monitoring this forum from outside.

(Disclaimer: The above narrative in no way reflect the views of the author. They were meant strictly in jest and were meant to represent the mindless meanderings of someone who has been whipped to near exhaustion with the PC noodle :blotto: )

 

[Gunner]

Recceguy, if you were not disobeying regulations by smoking in the Iltis in the first place you wouldn‘t have to worry about littering with the butts.

Rules and Regulations are just what they imply. When you are a leader and you begin to decide which rules and regulations you will and will not follow or enforce, what does it do to a groups discipline?

Do I think the Cmdre needs to be drawn and quartered? No, but he screwed up, he did the honourable think and came forward, he will also have to pay the consequences. Hopefully, it won‘t be anything than a slap on the wrist. Is he career ruined? Probably, who‘s going to promote the porno guy?

 

[Infanteer]

Gunner,
A good point.
I must clarify what I have been bitching about on this forum.
Yes, the Commadore screwed up. He broke a rule. He should be punished (like you stated) in order to prevent the next guy from breaking a different rule, thinking he could get away with it, and getting someone killed.
What I am pissed off about is the fact that this rule exists in the first place. Canadian soldiers, sailors and airmen do a very tough job, and in my opinion, a very damn good job at it also. Why would some high-rankers essentially spit in ALL of our faces with this, and all other chicken**** rules (many come to mind right now) that do nothing but blade the common warrior in the back.
(I‘ll get off my soapbox now...)

 

[Gunner]

A couple of points:

a. The rules for laptop use come from Treasury Board, not from DND. Yes, this statement is simply passing the buck.

b. The Cmdre has been dragged through the mud simply in the interest of transparancy within the CF. Officers above the rank of Col/Capt(N) must by investigated by the NIS if they breach a regulation.

My question to everyone is "What is the cost to the CF of being transparant?" I don‘t know the Cmdre but lets assume he is an excellent officer with great integrity (as he has shown by coming forward". Whereas in the past he could come forward and accept his lumps privately and carry on without having lost the resect of his sailors or having lost his command presence. Now this hasn‘t happened and the CF has lost a good leader and his name has been sprayed across the national media in a sensational way. Who‘s going to replace him? Someone so worried about their career that they won‘t come forward?

The idea that the public has a right to know everything that happens in the CF is just plain stupid. A private doesn‘t need to know when his MCpl/Sgt/Lt screws up and what he has been punished with. It destroys group cohesion. How do we learn from our mistakes without everyone knowing about it?

 

[towhey]

News release just crossed my desk... thought the group may be interested:

NEWS RELEASE TRANSMITTED BY CCN NEWSWIRE

FOR: NATIONAL DEFENCE

AUGUST 20, 2001 - 17:18 EDT

National Defence: Statement From the Chief of the Defence
Staff - Reinstatement of Commodore Lerhe

OTTAWA, ONTARIO--The Chief of the Defence Staff, General Ray Henault, today issued the following statement regarding the reinstatement of Commodore Eric Lerhe as Commander Canadian Fleet Pacific. As Commodore Lerhe is a flag (general) officer, the final decision about his reinstatement rested with the Chief of the Defence Staff.

"I, along with the senior commanders of the Canadian Forces, have thoroughly reviewed the facts of Commodore Eric Lerhe‘s case."

"Based on this review, and the recommendations of the senior commanders, I have made the decision to direct Chief of the Maritime Staff to take the necessary action to immediately reinstate Commodore Lerhe as Commander Canadian Fleet Pacific."

"Commodore Lerhe took responsibility for his actions and admitted his guilt during the court martial held on August 16th. The military justice system has dealt appropriately with the situation through the disciplinary process."

"Commodore Lerhe‘s willingness to take responsibility demonstrates his courage and integrity. I am fully confident of his leadership
and command abilities and his qualities as an officer in the Canadian Forces."

"I look forward to Commodore Lerhe‘s resumption of command."

-30-

 

[rcrman]

Good for him! There was a RCD colonel I read about and came down in an O-Group that while overseas he had a negligent discharge wile in a turret of a cougar or was it coyote now? Anyway the point is he said "yup I did it...I was at fault". He payed a 5000.00 fine based on his rank I imagine and the severity of what happened and continued on with life. So yeah I was damm proud of him! It showed that he screwed up, and came forward, never denied what happened. I would be more than happy to serve under a man with honesty and integrity like him. It would be a perfect army if all CO‘s were like him. A hell of a nice guy too...come up and talked to you just like your next Private buddy next to you. Makes for a better workplace and to know he his down to earth and not high and mighty on himself. A great example of an officer. To you SIR if you ever come across this...just like to say Thanks! Thanks for showing what prime qualities all service people should have. Truth, Loyalty, Honesty, Commitment to the troops under you. Even though I was RCR, I was impressed! Makes good on the Royal Canadian Dragoons for sure...just kidding guys, enjoyed the freedom of the city pdes with you and time in the field...running behind the Leopards knowing that at least I had some protection from getting a "third-eye"...he he he.

Pro Patria
Grubby
Also like recceguy said as a disclaimer...(All this information can be found at DND website...under the JAG section...lots of great info there...nice to see who‘s getting dinged for what charge on the court martial part, appeals, calander. Plain common knowledge!)