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The last thing I want to do is get into a religious debate. Anyway, here‘s how I see it.
If an Off-Topic forum has such limitation to what content is on it, why is it called off-topic. Or do you mean there‘s a certain level to a off-topic thread? I can see why threads like this can annoy this kind of forum. Still, some people like to input their faith into God during their service, sort of a recognition I believe.
Almost every culture, around the world, including North & South America, Africa and the East, has a history of this, so called, Great Flood. Surprisingly, they all seem to have taken place at around the same time. This is the only, kinda concrete evidence this MAY have taken place.
I don‘t think there‘s any "concrete evidence" at all. We can intrust what some records say that somethign happened thousands of years ago, or we could take in consideration what could effect this sort of ‘flood‘. Erosion could be a key in the determination if this ever happened. If you were to examine the general area where it is said the flood took place and look for signs of it ever happening that‘d be a good place to start off with. But they have tried this, and most of the time come empty handed.
Not all mountains known to the local people were the highest in the world. It may have been the highest piece of ground in the area of a five day walk, if they had never gone past this point. The water level would only have had to rise high enough in that area to "float the boat". They had no means to measure true depth.
Yeah, if God told you to write something down, you‘d consider it to be true right? Since he supposedly created the world, he should know everything about it.
You take on face value that Noah live over six hundred years, but don‘t believe the amount of animals in the ark. Go one further, how about feeding the multitudes with a couple of fish, some bread and a bottle or two of wine?
The Bible is a book of fable, myth and some fact written by various people over centuries that is taken for, well, gospel by many people. Even the writers within don‘t agree on the so called facts of the same story. There are also many books or chapters fom the Bible that have been excluded, hidden, burned and lost to history by various religious factions who were in control at the time. This was because their religious leaders either couldn‘t explain the events, or the events didn‘t fit their doctrine.
I don‘t know what could fit in the doctrine, it isn‘t something with a basic guidelines and stuff here and there. If you take in consideration the large meaning, it would seem biased. I find it quite funny you say that some chapters of the Bible were destroyed. I also do take in mind that in history the dictators were highly respected and could get away with such things. Which makes it completely possible to happen, now what struck me is that I‘ve never thought of something even close to that. Even though it could have happened, really shows me that you can‘t know much about anything.
Much of what is written was not witnessed first hand, but passed on verbally for generations til someone wrote it down. And we all know how stories get embellished. People wrote what they wanted others to hear. What about Jesus‘s older brother John? Just as religious and pious. He‘s was equally famous, at the time, to the point of being silenced also, by getting tossed off the Temple wall. Can‘t have two heros at the same time, in the limelight though, can we? Might confuse the issue and split the vote.
Even furthermore, how do you know John was tossed over a temple wall? Or if Jesus ever really walked on Earth, that is why faith is such a important component.
As too your point about incest within Noah‘s family, explain how only Adam and Eve populated the earth, with God‘s blessing, even after one of only two sons, Cain, slew Able. No sisters have been mentioned, so did Cain procreate with Eve, his mother? But he took a wife. Where did she come from?
The Bible has been written over and over again, perhaps a mistake int he conversion of the text. Anyhow, who brought up Adam and Eve int he first place?
You can be a zealot and believe implicitly without question, or take it as a good read that poses some intriguing questions without commitment. It is far from complete or fact. Religion is built on faith. On the plus side, it provides hope and solice to it‘s believers. On the other end of the scale, it creates war, death and destruction for the closed minded, those unwilling to accept other‘s views.
Wow, I guess we agree with the faith thing. I also don‘t think we can blame, death, war and destruction on a religion. Even if it may encourage it.
Either way, although I might be wrong, but this question would be better posed on some religious site where I‘m sure you‘ll get more than enough and, possibly, better qualified discussion.
Whose to say religion has it‘s limits to which "site" it reaches to? I‘m sure there‘s religion in other sites, maybe not as much as this one. Still you have to admit, there‘s no real guideline to it.
This may be the Off Topic Forum, but it‘s still a military site. Religious discussion will never reach a concensus. Witness the Middle East, Bosnia or even the Evangelical pundits in North America. Muslim, Buddist, Christian, et al. It ALWAYS breaks down into and argument with varying consequences, be it war or hurt feelings.
So your saying, religion doesn‘t have any purpose on a military based forum?
I‘ll reserve the option, which I have been entrusted with, to lock this thread if I see it getting too weird or obnoxious. Keep it on the scientific level that it started with or it‘s gone.
Science is defined as what? Also, my username is in obnoxious. I‘ll keep that in your mind for now.
P.S. To the person who asked, I was born in the 1990s. Just ask cheeky_monkey
The last thing I want to do is get into a religious debate. Anyway, here‘s how I see it.
If an Off-Topic forum has such limitation to what content is on it, why is it called off-topic. Or do you mean there‘s a certain level to a off-topic thread? I can see why threads like this can annoy this kind of forum. Still, some people like to input their faith into God during their service, sort of a recognition I believe.
Almost every culture, around the world, including North & South America, Africa and the East, has a history of this, so called, Great Flood. Surprisingly, they all seem to have taken place at around the same time. This is the only, kinda concrete evidence this MAY have taken place.
I don‘t think there‘s any "concrete evidence" at all. We can intrust what some records say that somethign happened thousands of years ago, or we could take in consideration what could effect this sort of ‘flood‘. Erosion could be a key in the determination if this ever happened. If you were to examine the general area where it is said the flood took place and look for signs of it ever happening that‘d be a good place to start off with. But they have tried this, and most of the time come empty handed.
Not all mountains known to the local people were the highest in the world. It may have been the highest piece of ground in the area of a five day walk, if they had never gone past this point. The water level would only have had to rise high enough in that area to "float the boat". They had no means to measure true depth.
Yeah, if God told you to write something down, you‘d consider it to be true right? Since he supposedly created the world, he should know everything about it.
You take on face value that Noah live over six hundred years, but don‘t believe the amount of animals in the ark. Go one further, how about feeding the multitudes with a couple of fish, some bread and a bottle or two of wine?
The Bible is a book of fable, myth and some fact written by various people over centuries that is taken for, well, gospel by many people. Even the writers within don‘t agree on the so called facts of the same story. There are also many books or chapters fom the Bible that have been excluded, hidden, burned and lost to history by various religious factions who were in control at the time. This was because their religious leaders either couldn‘t explain the events, or the events didn‘t fit their doctrine.
I don‘t know what could fit in the doctrine, it isn‘t something with a basic guidelines and stuff here and there. If you take in consideration the large meaning, it would seem biased. I find it quite funny you say that some chapters of the Bible were destroyed. I also do take in mind that in history the dictators were highly respected and could get away with such things. Which makes it completely possible to happen, now what struck me is that I‘ve never thought of something even close to that. Even though it could have happened, really shows me that you can‘t know much about anything.
Much of what is written was not witnessed first hand, but passed on verbally for generations til someone wrote it down. And we all know how stories get embellished. People wrote what they wanted others to hear. What about Jesus‘s older brother John? Just as religious and pious. He‘s was equally famous, at the time, to the point of being silenced also, by getting tossed off the Temple wall. Can‘t have two heros at the same time, in the limelight though, can we? Might confuse the issue and split the vote.
Even furthermore, how do you know John was tossed over a temple wall? Or if Jesus ever really walked on Earth, that is why faith is such a important component.
As too your point about incest within Noah‘s family, explain how only Adam and Eve populated the earth, with God‘s blessing, even after one of only two sons, Cain, slew Able. No sisters have been mentioned, so did Cain procreate with Eve, his mother? But he took a wife. Where did she come from?
The Bible has been written over and over again, perhaps a mistake int he conversion of the text. Anyhow, who brought up Adam and Eve int he first place?
You can be a zealot and believe implicitly without question, or take it as a good read that poses some intriguing questions without commitment. It is far from complete or fact. Religion is built on faith. On the plus side, it provides hope and solice to it‘s believers. On the other end of the scale, it creates war, death and destruction for the closed minded, those unwilling to accept other‘s views.
Wow, I guess we agree with the faith thing. I also don‘t think we can blame, death, war and destruction on a religion. Even if it may encourage it.
Either way, although I might be wrong, but this question would be better posed on some religious site where I‘m sure you‘ll get more than enough and, possibly, better qualified discussion.
Whose to say religion has it‘s limits to which "site" it reaches to? I‘m sure there‘s religion in other sites, maybe not as much as this one. Still you have to admit, there‘s no real guideline to it.
This may be the Off Topic Forum, but it‘s still a military site. Religious discussion will never reach a concensus. Witness the Middle East, Bosnia or even the Evangelical pundits in North America. Muslim, Buddist, Christian, et al. It ALWAYS breaks down into and argument with varying consequences, be it war or hurt feelings.
So your saying, religion doesn‘t have any purpose on a military based forum?
I‘ll reserve the option, which I have been entrusted with, to lock this thread if I see it getting too weird or obnoxious. Keep it on the scientific level that it started with or it‘s gone.
Science is defined as what? Also, my username is in obnoxious. I‘ll keep that in your mind for now.
P.S. To the person who asked, I was born in the 1990s. Just ask cheeky_monkey
Well, so did I, I guess.
