Kid arrested for playing with Christmas present (cnn news)

[Yrys]

I almost put in in the police board

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/05/christmaspresent.arrest.ap/index.html

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (AP) -- A fed-up mother had her 12-year-old son arrested
for allegedly rummaging through his great-grandmother's things and playing with his
Christmas present early.

The mother called police Sunday after learning her son had disobeyed orders and
repeatedly taken a Game Boy from its hiding place at his great-grandmother's house
next door and played it.

He was arrested on petty larceny charges, taken to the police station in handcuffs and
held until his mother picked him up after church.

"My grandmother went out of her way to lay away a toy and paid on this thing for months,"
said the boy's mother, Brandi Ervin. "It was only to teach my son a lesson. He's been going
through life doing things ... and getting away with it."

...

 

[spud]

I almost put in in the police board

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/05/christmaspresent.arrest.ap/index.html

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (AP) -- A fed-up mother had her 12-year-old son arrested
for allegedly rummaging through his great-grandmother's things and playing with his
Christmas present early.

The mother called police Sunday after learning her son had disobeyed orders and
repeatedly taken a Game Boy from its hiding place at his great-grandmother's house
next door and played it.

The kid has ADD as well. The mother should have her @$$ kicked.

 

[GAP]

Half the fun of Christmas as a kid, is/was trying to find out what you got....was disappointed that I did find out when I did, but that never stopped me...

 

[vonGarvin]

The kid has ADD as well. The mother should have her @$$ kicked.

ADD is so mis-understood, it drives me crazy.
MYTH: ADD means your kid runs around, misbehaving and can't control himself.
FACT: ADD means your kid doesn't have a problem paying attention, but rather cannot filter stuff out.  Example, you are sitting in front of your computer right now.  The computer fan is running, you hear a radio, perhaps, off in the background.  People are talking, there is noise from outside, perhaps a plane flying overhead.  People without ADD can filter that stuff and focus on one thing.  People with ADD cannot (well, they can with varying degrees of success), and they absorb EVERYTHING.
ADHD is similar, except the Hyperactivity part does not mean that they climb over everything and spit and do stuff like that.  It manifests itself more in not being able to sit still: fidgeting and the like.


I do know this from experience: My daugher has moderate-severe ADHD, and she is NOT medicated.  She is very bright and it's dangerous for my wife and me: when we think she isn't paying attention, we forget that she cannot HELP but to pay attention, and she retains everything she reads or hears.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

The kid has ADD as well. The mother should have her @$$ kicked.

The mother should have kicked HIS ass. Often and regularly from the sounds of it.

 

[spud]

The mother should have kicked HIS ***. Often and regularly from the sounds of it.

Well I should have said "ADHD" not "ADD".

Any mother who would call the police on their 12 year old child over opening a Christmas present needs to have her head examined.

Kicking his ass often and regularly won't do much to help him I'm afraid.  :

 

[old medic]

The kid needs his ass kicked.....

She said he faces an expulsion hearing at his school Wednesday. Rock Hill Police Capt. Mark Bollinger said the boy took a swing at a police officer assigned to the school last month. He has been suspended from school since then.

The boy's case will be presented to Department of Juvenile Justice officials in York County, who will decide what happens to him, Bollinger said. His mother hopes he can attend a program that will finally scare him straight.

 

[spud]

ADHD is similar, except the Hyperactivity part does not mean that they climb over everything and spit and do stuff like that.  It manifests itself more in not being able to sit still: fidgeting and the like.

I have seen kids with ADHD that were closer to Tazmanian Devils, it went way beyond fidgeting.

 

[Trinity]

The mother said that her son was found in the last year to have attention deficit hyperactivity disorder but that his medicine does not seem to help.

She said he faces an expulsion hearing at his school Wednesday. Rock Hill Police Capt. Mark Bollinger said the boy took a swing at a police officer assigned to the school last month. He has been suspended from school since then.

The boy's case will be presented to Department of Juvenile Justice officials in York County, who will decide what happens to him, Bollinger said. His mother hopes he can attend a program that will finally scare him straight.

"It's not even about the Christmas present," she said. "I only want positive things out of it. ... There's no need for him to act this way. I'd rather call myself than someone else call for him doing something worse than this."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16064380/&GT1=8816

The rest of the story which was missing

This is much bigger than the kid taking his Christmas present.

 

[vonGarvin]

I have seen kids with ADHD that were closer to Tazmanian Devils, it went way beyond fidgeting.

They probably didn't have ADHD, but rather were just lacking of discipline.  Misdiagnosis of ADHD is rampant.

 

[spud]

Misdiagnosis of ADHD is rampant.

So is child abuse.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Having grown up with ADD myself, I suspect the mother did this to get the kids attention, it might be the best dam thing for the kid, when you have a kid with very strong ADD, they often have a problem with relating consequence to their actions, the kid was getting more out of control and likely the mom was also reaching the breaking point. A bad case of ADD can destroy a family and even a good parent can fail.

 

[vonGarvin]

So is child abuse.

I don't see the point?  I might have missed it......


(in my defence, I'm all doped up on flu medicine, so....)

 

[condor888000]

The kid needs his ass kicked.....

I'm guessing he's referring to that point.

 

[spud]

I don't see the point?  I might have missed it......

(in my defence, I'm all doped up on flu medicine, so....)

Are you nuts...I don't have a point...I never have a point..I just like to argue. Coincidentally, I have the same dealer as you too - all the Nyquil I want. 

My point is simple; this kid has had problems since at least Kindergarten. I am sure he has had more then his share of kicks in the arse. Obviously it's not working or hasn't worked.

Kicking his arse some more will not solve anything, but if she has done it enough times, or does it enough times, he will be lucky enough to be a carrier...and then when the time comes he can beat the crap out of his own kids. Nothing like a legacy.

It's obvious the boy needs help that won't be gotten from a size 10 up his @$$.


potato

 

[Magravan]

Yeah... It is midsiagnosed often... And then you get people who, with their elitist attitudes and general ignorance say "Oh, it is just a lack of discipline. Bad parenting, I suppose. MY child has something like that, and they aren't medicated or anything, because I'm such a good parent."

What you are failing to take into account is that, yes, there is a chance for misdiagnosis. But that doesn't mean that the child does not have a problem. It may not be ADHD, but that doesn't mean it is bad parenting.

I speak both from personal experience and a background in Psychology. Just because a kid has problems that present in that particular way does not automatically equate to bad parenting.

The kid needs help to deal with this, and presuming by the fact that she had to call the police, the mother needs help with it too.

 

[vonGarvin]

The meds are wearing off now

Understandably that the kid has problems. Part parenting?  Maybe.  I don't know.  I doubt it's ADHD, however.  Boot to the arse?  First offense, maybe (metaphorical boot, naturally).  There are other punishments that are more effective in some cases, of course, but the main is (a) avoid empty threats, such as "If you do that again, you're never going to have supper again".

 

[protected]

I think the whole problem today is, Parents have problems and kids have problems- But no one wants to fess up and own the problem-It's societies fault, it's the school's fault, it's that damn hip-hop!- I say your pants on and be an adult and show your kids how to to put their pants on and become a half way decent adult! my 1/2 a cent logic

 

[Kat Stevens]

The problem is that the kids have all the power and rights guaranteed by law.  Parents have none, and the kids know it.  Undoubtedly there are kids out there with real problems... There are also such things as natural born rotten little b@$tards.  We are now faced with an entire generation of labelled, pigeonholed little Ritalin junkies.  The big money long term investment is pharmaceuticals, not crude oil, kiddies.

 

[gaspasser]

    Gees, some hard to get a word in edge-wise around here.  I get to the bottom only to see that someone has posted what I want to say.
    Back when I was 12, snooping was part of the game and guessing come Christmas morning.  If I hadpre-opened one, WELLLLL! my parents would march me with the present back to the store and I would've gotten nothing.  Bad parenting?  Disciplined me, I say!  I only did it once.  :'(
    The law protects kids way too much these days and they took away corporal punishment as a means of effective discipline.  And parents have no rights and a small amount of space to discipline their kids in any way. The Youth Criminal Justice Act is good to a point, then it goes out in left field. I agree with it  for getting rid of candy bar theft records.  But when you get up into assualt and battery, murder and just all around "I don't give a sh*t" (which is prevelant of many teens today)  Look at the teacher that was  killed in Nova Scotia by an 14 year old joy rider who was out on bail for an earlier assault.  Don't get me wrong, talking quietly and logically to a pre-teen might work.  To a teen, maybe.  To under 5, not likely.  Logic means nothing to them.  Anyone remember Dr. Spock?  Grikky, them kids were b-r-a-t-s! 
  But I digress and rant.
  ADD and ADHD seem to be environmental diseases these days.  I've been around youth with these "problems" (some were medicated and some weren't)  All they seem to need are good coping skills taught to them by thier parents to help filter out the noise. And for you to find out what they are good at.  We're all good at something.