Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Thus confirming that not a single leader of a province, territory or the feds understands what defending the country is. It’s all about Jobs!Jobs!Jobs! and cheques flying everywhere but into the present day needs of the existing CAF. And if the country’s defences end up a tiny little bit better off, then that’s the secondary lowest priority collateral benefit.

Defence spending in the North could be 'generational opportunity': Nunavut premier

Nunavut Premier P.J. Akeeagok says the federal government's commitments to boosting defence spending, specifically in the North, could be a 'generational opportunity' for the people who live there.

www.ctvnews.ca

Yes, which is how you get them to buy onto big, strategic defence programs like NSS.

No reasonalbe chance of suddenly having politicians that aren't very locally focused, so while it's annoying may as well just take advantage of it.

If you want to talk the babble, read the Jensen report, figure out what KICs are, and take a peak at the Value Proposition program under ISED (and the whole reporting naus under DPS).

Some very select items will get some of that waived, but unless someone is actually shooting at us expect and plan for 100% equivalent ROIs to bigger defence contracts. Most of that is met by the companies having a Canadian footprint (sometimes as a distributor, so it's OEM + markup) but some things are actually useful, like the investment into trade apprenticeship programs, or smaller companies getting steady income from a GoC contract and able to grow.

 

[ytz]

Thus confirming that not a single leader of a province, territory or the feds understands what defending the country is. It’s all about Jobs!Jobs!Jobs! and cheques flying everywhere but into the present day needs of the existing CAF. And if the country’s defences end up a tiny little bit better off, then that’s the secondary lowest priority collateral benefit.

Defence spending in the North could be 'generational opportunity': Nunavut premier

Nunavut Premier P.J. Akeeagok says the federal government's commitments to boosting defence spending, specifically in the North, could be a 'generational opportunity' for the people who live there.

www.ctvnews.ca

It's always about jobs. Even in the US.

 

[Kirkhill]

In the US, what is the sum total of leos, ems, guard, dod and doe as a percent of GDP?

In Europe there is a considerable degree of overlap between agencies complicating the 2% discussion.

Further to...

The Canadian Armed Forces is comprised of approximately 68,000 Regular Force and 27,000 Reserve Force members, increasing to 71,500 and 30,000 respectively under Strong, Secure, Engaged − Canada’s defence policy, as well as 5,200 Ranger Patrol Group members.

Canadian Armed Forces 101 - Canada.ca

March 2020 - Essential information to familiarize the Minister with the Department.

www.canada.ca

Just recently, Defence Minister Bill Blair estimated the military is short up to 16,500 members and said the Armed Forces' failure to boost recruitment is leading it into a "death spiral."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wayne-eyre-bill-blair-armed-forces-recruitment-1.7177911

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Police Officers

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Total number of police officers​

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71,472​

Police personnel and selected crime statistics

Data on police personnel (police officers by gender, civilian and other personnel), police-civilian ratio, police officers and authorized strength per 100,000 population, authorized police officer strength and selected crime statistics. Data is provided for Canada, provinces, territories and the...

www150.statcan.gc.ca

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Add in CSIS, CBSA, CPC, DFO for another 15 to 20,000 with guns.

Fire Fighters

Census 2023 showed that there are 126,000 firefighters in Canada, of which 90,000 are volunteer. These volunteer firefighters provide fire and all hazard emergency services to their communities. Many of them receive some form of pay on call, an honorarium, or are given some funding to cover expenses, but they do not draw a living wage from firefighting.

https://cafc.ca/page/volffshortage#

Paramedics

the number of paramedics is over 36,000

https://www.hhr-rhs.ca/images/Intro_to_the_Health_Workforce_in_Canada_Chapters/16_Paramedics.pdf

In a state of war how many of those paramedics, firefighters, police officers and CAF members would be covered under the National Defence budget?

 

[KevinB]

Further to...

Canadian Armed Forces 101 - Canada.ca

March 2020 - Essential information to familiarize the Minister with the Department.

www.canada.ca

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wayne-eyre-bill-blair-armed-forces-recruitment-1.7177911

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Other portions of the National Security picture

Police Officers

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Police personnel and selected crime statistics

Data on police personnel (police officers by gender, civilian and other personnel), police-civilian ratio, police officers and authorized strength per 100,000 population, authorized police officer strength and selected crime statistics. Data is provided for Canada, provinces, territories and the...

www150.statcan.gc.ca

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Add in CSIS, CBSA, CPC, DFO for another 15 to 20,000 with guns.

Fire Fighters

https://cafc.ca/page/volffshortage#

Paramedics

https://www.hhr-rhs.ca/images/Intro_to_the_Health_Workforce_in_Canada_Chapters/16_Paramedics.pdf

In a state of war how many of those paramedics, firefighters, police officers and CAF members would be covered under the National Defence budget?

Sometime you really just love to throw shit against a wall don't you?

A war doesn't reduce the internal needs for emergency services. While some aspects (Counter Intelligence) would no doubt be more related to Defense issues - the average LEO, Fireman, Paramedic etc would still be needed for day to day operation of the country.