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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Canada says it will look at increasing its defence spending and tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever growing sanctions list.

By Tonda MacCharles
Ottawa Bureau
Mon., March 7, 2022

Riga, LATVIA—On the 13th day of the brutal Russian bid to claim Ukraine as its own, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing up at the Latvian battle group led by Canadian soldiers, waving the Maple Leaf and a vague hint at more money for the military.

Canada has been waving the NATO flag for nearly seven years in Latvia as a bulwark against Russia’s further incursions in Eastern Europe.

Canada stepped up to lead one of NATO’s four battle groups in 2015 — part of the defensive alliance’s display of strength and solidarity with weaker member states after Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Trudeau arrived in the Latvian capital late Monday after meetings in the U.K. with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

Earlier Monday, faced with a seemingly unstoppable war in Ukraine, Trudeau said he will look at increasing Canada’s defence spending. Given world events, he said there are “certainly reflections to have.”

And Canada tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever-growing sanctions list.

The latest round of sanctions includes names Trudeau said were identified by jailed Russian opposition leader and Putin nemesis Alexei Navalny.

However, on a day when Trudeau cited the new sanctions, and Johnson touted new measures meant to expose Russian property owners in his country, Rutte admitted sanctions are not working.

Yet they all called for more concerted international efforts over the long haul, including more economic measures and more humanitarian aid, with Johnson and Rutte divided over how quickly countries need to get off Russian oil and gas.

The 10 latest names on Canada’s target list do not include Roman Abramovich — a Russian billionaire Navalny has been flagging to Canada since at least 2017. Canada appears to have sanctioned about 20 of the 35 names on Navalny’s list.

The Conservative opposition says the Liberal government is not yet exerting maximum pressure on Putin, and should do more to bolster Canadian Forces, including by finally approving the purchase of fighter jets.

Foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said in an interview that Ottawa must still sanction “additional oligarchs close to President Putin who have significant assets in Canada.”

Abramovich owns more than a quarter of the public shares in steelmaking giant Evraz, which has operations in Alberta and Saskatchewan and has supplied most of the steel for the government-owned Trans Mountain pipeline project.

Evraz’s board of directors also includes two more Russians the U.S. government identified as “oligarchs” in 2019 — Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov — and its Canadian operations have received significant support from the federal government.

That includes at least $27 million in emergency wage subsidies during the pandemic, as well as $7 million through a fund meant to help heavy-polluters reduce emissions that cause climate change, according to the company’s most recent annual report.

In addition to upping defence spending, the Conservatives want NORAD’s early warning system upgraded, naval shipbuilding ramped up and Arctic security bolstered.

In London, Johnson sat down with Trudeau and Rutte at the Northolt airbase. Their morning meetings had a rushed feel, with Johnson starting to usher press out before Trudeau spoke. His office said later that the British PM couldn’t squeeze the full meeting in at 10 Downing Street because Johnson’s “diary” was so busy that day. The three leaders held an afternoon news conference at 10 Downing.

But before that Trudeau met with the Queen, saying she was “insightful” and they had a “useful, for me anyway, conversation about global affairs.”

Trudeau meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday in Latvia.

The prime minister will also meet with three Baltic leaders, the prime ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, in the Latvian capital of Riga.

The Liberals announced they would increase the 500 Canadian Forces in Latvia by another 460 troops. The Canadians are leading a multinational battle group, one of four that are part of NATO’s deployments in the region.

Another 3,400 Canadians could be deployed to the region in the months to come, on standby for NATO orders.

But Canada’s shipments of lethal aid to Ukraine were slow to come in the view of the Conservatives, and the Ukrainian Canadian community.

And suddenly Western allies are eyeing each other’s defence commitments.

At the Downing Street news conference, Rutte noted the Netherlands will increase its defence budget to close to two per cent of GDP. Germany has led the G7, and doubled its defence budget in the face of Putin’s invasion and threats. Johnson said the U.K. defence spending is about 2.4 per cent and declined to comment on Canada’s defence spending which is 1.4 per cent of GDP.

But Johnson didn’t hold back.

“What we can’t do, post the invasion of Ukraine is assume that we go back to a kind of status quo ante, a kind of new normalization in the way that we did after the … seizure of Crimea and the Donbas area,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to recognize that things have changed and that we need a new focus on security and I think that that is kind of increasingly understood by everybody.”

Trudeau stood by his British and Dutch counterparts and pledged Canada would do more.

He defended his government’s record, saying Ottawa is gradually increasing spending over the next decade by 70 per cent. Then Trudeau admitted more might be necessary.

“We also recognize that context is changing rapidly around the world and we need to make sure that women and men have certainty and our forces have all the equipment necessary to be able to stand strongly as we always have. As members of NATO. We will continue to look at what more we can do.”

The three leaders — Johnson, a conservative and Trudeau and Rutte, progressive liberals — in a joint statement said they “will continue to impose severe costs on Russia.”

Arriving for the news conference from Windsor Castle, Trudeau had to detour to enter Downing Street as loud so-called Freedom Convoy protesters bellowed from outside the gate. They carried signs marked “Tuck Frudeau” and “Free Tamara” (Lich).

Protester Jeff Wyatt who said he has no Canadian ties told the Star he came to stand up for Lich and others who were leading a “peaceful protest” worldwide against government “lies” about COVID-19 and what he called Trudeau’s “tyranny.”

Elsewhere in London, outside the Russian embassy, other protesters and passersby reflected on what they said was real tyranny — the Russian attack on Ukraine. “I think we should be as tough as possible to get this stopped, as tough as possible,” said protester Clive Martinez.
 
Hey, Justin, polls show a majority of Canadians now want 2% GDP spending on defence. Maybe you should check it out with your colleagues Boris and Xi to see if they recommend it...after all, that’s the Canadian way of doing things.

64% is pretty amazing. Not sure how these clowns can avoid this.

Mind you, I think something like 80% of Canadians want us to take a tougher stance with Beijing, yet we still haven’t expelled any Chinese “diplomats” yet… 🤦‍♂️
 
64% is pretty amazing. Not sure how these clowns can avoid this.

Mind you, I think something like 80% of Canadians want us to take a tougher stance with Beijing, yet we still haven’t expelled any Chinese “diplomats” yet… 🤦‍♂️
I must say, the media, for all its imperfections and generally pro-liberal bias, have been on Justin’s tail for quite some time about his lack of sufficient defence spending.
 
It's likely already been discussed in this thread, but increasing spending won't make the CAF more effective, we will just have a bigger budget to buy useless crap like desks and chairs. We need a complete overhaul with a massive investment in base housing and infrastructure. Then figure out a way how to recruit and retain people. All these new toys, like the F-35, will just sit in hangars and warehouses with no one around to use them. We are not ready to receive and use new equipment.
 
Canada has a huge Ukrainian population. So perhaps the Russian invasion has some people finally waking TF up about defence spending.
I am seeig this firsthand. I'm a young guy and work in post secondary ed so my surroundings are basically as left leaning as you can get but even here people are talking positively about the military (begrudgingly). Lots of young people here have grandparents in Ukraine that are being affected and the false sense of safety they've had for the last 2 generations has been shattered.
 
I must say, the media, for all its imperfections and generally pro-liberal bias, have been on Justin’s tail for quite some time about his lack of sufficient defence spending.
You know, I have come around to thinking that the media, with the exception of CBC and the Toronto Star, actually try to be fair, despite their centre-left biases. As I’ve said before, I believe that centre-left bias is from journalists coming from the same j-schools and other institutions, rather than some nefarious plot. Like a fish in water that doesn’t know it’s wet, many might not even see their biases. Mostly, if a scandal involving the Liberals or NDP lands on their desk, they will probably run with it. CBC will probably excuse it and blame the Tories.
 
It's likely already been discussed in this thread, but increasing spending won't make the CAF more effective, we will just have a bigger budget to buy useless crap like desks and chairs. We need a complete overhaul with a massive investment in base housing and infrastructure. Then figure out a way how to recruit and retain people. All these new toys, like the F-35, will just sit in hangars and warehouses with no one around to use them. We are not ready to receive and use new equipment.

OR....

Plan on spending more money on airfare and let people disperse across the country while operating with 2 to 4 week shifts/tours.

When you claim more real estate per person than anyone else on the planet (Pacific Islanders excluded) then it is going to cost you money to maintain it and secure it.
 
It's likely already been discussed in this thread, but increasing spending won't make the CAF more effective, we will just have a bigger budget to buy useless crap like desks and chairs. We need a complete overhaul with a massive investment in base housing and infrastructure. Then figure out a way how to recruit and retain people. All these new toys, like the F-35, will just sit in hangars and warehouses with no one around to use them. We are not ready to receive and use new equipment.

Send all the money to LRP. We have uses for infrastructure and planes and stuff. We will take it all!
 
Hey, Justin, polls show a majority of Canadians now want 2% GDP spending on defence. Maybe you should check it out with your colleagues Boris and Xi to see if they recommend it...after all, that’s the Canadian way of doing things.

Here's a link to the report.


What I find interesting is that Quebec is in the middle ground when it comes to favouring spending at 2% rather than at the bottom - but not by much.

OTOH, Quebec shows the least concern about Canada's military operational abilities - but not by much.

Wonder if that will have an impact?

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Here's a link to the report.



What I find interesting is that Quebec is in the middle ground when it comes to favouring spending at 2% rather than at the bottom - but not by much.

OTOH, Quebec shows the least concern about Canada's military operational abilities - but not by much.

Wonder if that will have an impact?

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Hah! Thanks for the link, I had the exact same thoughts upon reading the article and was looking for the actual report.

My tentative explanation is that Quebeccers might be least concerned about Canada's standing, but still care about contributing?

Quebec also least supportive of enhanced operation in Haiti, despite the common language. A tinge of anti-imperialism, perhaps?
 
Plan on spending more money on airfare and let people disperse across the country while operating with 2 to 4 week shifts/tours.

I would rather see enough Q's built for families and condo-style apartments for single members at each base, with no monthly charge. The difference given as an allowance to purchase on the economy. Not a fan of a FIFO type of work schedule, but to each their own.

Send all the money to LRP. We have uses for infrastructure and planes and stuff. We will take it all!

I'd come to comox in a heart beat if I didn't have to live on air force beach in a camper.
 
Send all the money to LRP. We have uses for infrastructure and planes and stuff. We will take it all!

But that totally ignores the fact that every key decision maker in Ottawa has just watched the coronation and will now be planning our next new uniform, which will be really expensive but (fortunately) already part Canadian ;)


queens guards GIF
 
But that totally ignores the fact that every key decision maker in Ottawa has just watched the coronation and will now be planning our next new uniform, which will be really expensive but (fortunately) already part Canadian ;)


queens guards GIF
Watch that shine Soldier
 
My tentative explanation is that Quebeccers might be least concerned about Canada's standing, but still care about contributing?
Yep, even if Quebec understand that Canada standing = business, I would says that's a good tentative explanation.
Quebec also least supportive of enhanced operation in Haiti, despite the common language. A tinge of anti-imperialism, perhaps?
I don't believe it's anti-imperialism. The last time it was supported because of the ''we're here to hep''. Once, yes, twice, yes third time...come on is more the feeling.
 
No reason we shouldnt be in AUKUS other than our own desire to not be in it. We have followed the path of New Zealand a little too much to my liking. We made our place at the kids table but maybe it is finally getting through to some that we dont have the capability to act in the nations interest anymore. We could certainly use 6 SSN and need to refurbish the NORAD sites. This government is not one I think anyone trusts
 
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