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IED Defeat Has been Effective

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IED's have been the single biggest cause of casualties and trying to defeat the IED's through jamming has had some success.The bad news is that unless you get lucky its hard to defeat command or pressure detonation. Finding the bomb factories and catching the bad guys in the act are all part of the solution.

http://www.armytimes.com/issues/stories/0-ARMYPAPER-2751009.php

Head of anti-IED agency says it’s been effective
Now takes more bombs to get same level of casualties
By William H. McMichael - bmcmichael@militarytimes.com
Posted : May 21, 2007

Improvised explosive devices — the weapon of choice for insurgents in Iraq — continue to have a devastating effect on U.S. troops in Iraq.

Exact IED casualty figures are hard to come by, but according to the Pentagon, “explosive devices” have killed 1,570 U.S. troops in Iraq from the start of the war through May 5—some 57 percent of the 2,741 total deaths due to hostile action.

Several recent IED attacks in Iraq have taken an especially heavy toll. On May 6, roadside bombs killed eight U.S. soldiers, six of them in one attack on a convoy in Diyala province. In response, the Pentagon has shifted tactics, up-armored vehicles — and poured billions of dollars into a little-known agency called the Joint IED Defeat Organization.

Established as a small Army cell in late in 2004, JIEDDO (“JAI-doe”) has since been transformed into a full-fledged defense agency, with 358 military and civilian staffers. It is developing its own intelligence net and leveraging a wide range of technical expertise to develop efforts to defeat IEDs as “weapons of strategic influence,” to use a term from one JIEDDO briefing slide.

The organization has been generously funded since its inception, to the tune of $6.3 billion, and the administration wants to give it $4.5 billion more for fiscal 2008.

But some lawmakers are wary. They say they don’t see that money making much of a difference in the casualty rate, that JIEDDO doesn’t clearly discuss the effectiveness of what it does, that it relies too much on technical defenses rather than strategies to stop IEDs at their sources, that it is not managing its money effectively, and that it doesn’t provide timely reports to Congress.

Wrong on all counts, says retired Army Gen. Montgomery Meigs, who became JIEDDO’s director in December 2005.

In a meeting with Military Times editors and reporters May 8, Meigs defended the pace and quality of his group’s work in helping troops train for the IED threat, counter it and help U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan actively seek out IED networks.

JIEDDO’s effectiveness, he said, can be seen in a harsh wartime calculus: While the U.S. casualty rate as a result of IEDs has remained fairly steady since 2003, insurgents now must field far more bombs to maintain that casualty rate — and increasingly expose themselves to U.S. strikes in the process.

In June 2003, insurgents detonated about 500 IEDs, Meigs said. This March, he said, there were six times as many attacks. While the exact figure is classified, that math would work out to an astonishing 3,000 IED attacks per month during the ongoing surge of forces into Iraq.

Seen in that light, a flat U.S. casualty rate from IEDs is a sign that the jammers and other technology and training JIEDDO has given U.S. forces are working; if they weren’t, explosive devices would be claiming far more American lives, Meigs argued.
Attacking on 3 fronts

To combat the seemingly endless supply of cheap bombs and insurgents willing to set them off in camouflaged roadside ambushes or in moving vehicles, JIEDDO takes a three-pronged approach:

•“Defeat the device” by developing and fielding items such as jammers and route clearance devices.

•“Attack the network” through technical and human intelligence to spot IEDs.

•“Train the force” both before and during deployments in IED defeat techniques.

The details of much of the “defeat” work are classified. It includes jammers, such as the largely vehicle-mounted Warlock Duke, which is JIEDDO’s single greatest expense; gear to enable route clearance; the cost of providing advice and research and development funding for the mine-resistant ambush-protected armored vehicles that are being rushed to the war.

This hardware-heavy prong has attracted most of JIEDDO’s total funding — 78 percent of the $3.6 billion available in fiscal ’06. In large part, that’s because “it’s easier to see what equipment you need to buy, and go out and buy it,” Meigs explained.

But in April 2006, the Defense Science Board reported that the Pentagon’s counter-IED efforts had become too focused on more technical, defensive and adaptive efforts, rather than attacking the networks underpinning the IED attacks, and suggested JIEDDO concentrate more on jammers and sensor technology.

Meigs, who reports to Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England, said his boss told him to “stop buying platforms.”

Meigs took that to heart. Since then, “defeat the device” efforts have leveled off while “attack the network” efforts are up markedly.

The third leg of JIEDDO’s mission triad is “train the force” — a wide-ranging effort at the National Training Center, the Joint Readiness Training Center and other locations, with realistic training aids. The efforts range from training soldiers “how to ask questions like a policeman does,” as Meigs put it, to jammer and aerial electronic warfare training, and even to exercises that involve troops encountering actors who build mock IEDs.
 
Arent we already doing this? Training the troops to spot and interdict IEDs and likely ambush areas? 
 
Its a bit more than that.  Its gos a lot of detail that 1) I dont know 2) Is an OPSEC issue for those who do

Additonally some high value entities have been dedicated to 1) analyse the IED/EFP's 2) Track the Source 3) Terminate the Source.
TF IED is doing an excellent job of getting the guys who make the more sophisticated ones


But the SGM of the 2/1SFG  was killed in an IED last week near us -- so its not near 100% yet.

 
Infidel-6 said:
Is an OPSEC issue for those who do
It is true.  Any intelligent discussion of this article would violate OPSEC.
 
Not necessarily.

  The article is interesting - and shows a change in focus.  The OPSEC issue revolves around the specifics of the measures used.
 
I think the one area we have seen an improvement in is getting tips from the Iraqi public/HUMINT that have enabled us to take down bomb factories and EFP smugglers which keeps IED's from being used against our troops.
 
Wait a sec...isnt that 'OPSEC' territory?  If not, how are we supposed to know where the line is here?   :p
 
I don't think it's a secret that all security forces rely to some extent on informers to obtain information about such devices, as well as about other insurgent activities. The lesson here is that thicker armour and bigger guns won't necessarily help you defeat IEDs on their own. Sound basic tactics and high levels of search awareness at all levels, combined with support from the all arms team (and civ/ police resources etc), are also important.

As always, Wikipedia has a relevant article.

"Technological countermeasures are only part of the solution in the effort to defeat IEDs; experience, training and awareness remain key factors in combating them. For example, there are visual signs which may suggest the existence of an IED, such as recently turned-over soil or sand near a road, or an abandoned car beside a road. Knowing these tell-tale signs may be as valuable as having sophisticated detection equipment."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_explosive_device

 
US troops have discovered that glass ballistic laminate stops EFP penetrators.

Accidental Discovery Aids In EFP Protection

May 29, 2007: Everyone knows explosively forged projectiles (EFPs) are an effective weapon against vehicles in Iraq. However, troops in the field have noticed that although EFPs go through metal armor, often glass laminate armor (aka glass ballistic laminate armor) will stop them. Troops report that the EFPs would not go through the bullet proof windows, which are made of glass laminate. However, the glass laminate only works once. When an EFP strikes the glass, the glass "spiderwebs" (shatters laterally and vertically) but it stops the penetrator. Of course it only needs to work once—troops lives are saved and the stuff can be replaced.  At least one unit is experimenting with mounting field improvised brackets outside the doors of vehicles to hold the three-inch thick glass laminate armor.



Apparently the glass laminate armor is destabilizing the explosively forged projectile penetrator and redirecting its kinetic energy laterally along the glass armor laminations. This is the principle behind the M-1 tanks chobham armor (a sandwich of metal and ceramic laminates). The ceramic armor is held in a metal armor matrix. As heavy metal "long rod" penetrator or high explosive shaped charge debris streams enter these armor matrixes, they are destabilized. The kinetic energy is diverted laterally from the initial penatrator direction of attack as the ceramics shatter. A plus here is that the chobham ceramics are jostled by the penetrator's or shaped charge stream's passage and keep abrading until the attack runs out of energy. Apparently no one has, officially, tested EFP versus glass laminate ballistic armor, so no one knows, officially, if it can do the same thing.



Glass ballistic laminate is expensive – one windshield costs several thousand dollars. The lamination process has a high scrap rate: it takes several tries to create one good, large piece of the material. The silica/polycarbonate plastic sandwich is hard to heat evenly and if it is not perfectly shaped a "void" will appear in during the curing process. This creates visibility issues, and troops need to be able to see through the glass. However, scrap pieces of glass laminate might be useful as anti-EFP armor.



Could this be more battlefield rumors? Even if it is, the armor and vehicle R&D crowds need to step in and check it out.



 
Infidel-6 said:
Its a bit more than that.  Its gos a lot of detail that 1) I dont know 2) Is an OPSEC issue for those who do



But the SGM of the 2/1SFG  was killed in an IED last week near us -- so its not near 100% yet.

It never is, stay sharp and safe, it would be boring around here without you!  ;)
 
Way back when, the best deterrent to IEDs has always been a combination of good tactics and sound intelligence, supported and not replaced by all the cool kit, with an emphasis on offensively minded cordon/search/ clearance operations. I trust that this is still the case today.
 
Recent article discussing the IED threat and the low tech approach to stopping IED's by killing those that try to plant them.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-diyala18jun18,1,2857423.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

BAQUBAH, IRAQ — U.S. soldiers on patrol here recently watched a man walk into the street with a bomb and begin to dig. They killed him before he finished. Out stepped another man to finish the job, so they shot him too — then another, and another and another.

In all, five people tried to place the makeshift bundle of munitions in the same hole within an hour.

"You see what we're up against," said Adam Jacobs, a 26-year-old Army captain, after recounting the astonishing story.

Despite a major push by U.S. forces this year to retake deadly Diyala province by focusing on insurgent outposts in Baqubah, huge sections of the city have no meaningful American or Iraqi security presence.

The roads are riddled with explosives powerful enough to kill soldiers inside every vehicle at their disposal. Al Qaeda in Iraq caravans career through the streets with men openly carrying machine guns.

Many of the militants arrived in Diyala after being pressured out of portions of Baghdad by the U.S. troop buildup there. Even more were pushed out of Al Anbar province, the desert hinterland west of Baghdad, when tribal sheiks who had harbored them decided to form an alliance to expel them.

Diyala is now the primary sanctuary for the militant group, and some American officers worry that the insurgents will spread out into the country at an increasing rate. The future, they worry, will be marked by an increasingly sophisticated armed resistance to U.S. and Iraqi security forces, and the imposition of a stringent fundamentalist vision of Islam on the people within the fighters' grip.

On a per-capita basis, Diyala has proved to be the deadliest place in Iraq for American troops, although its total casualties trail those in Baghdad.

The violence here also contributed to the high toll in April and May, the deadliest two-month period for Americans in Iraq since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

The situation is so desperate that U.S. forces over the last month decided to seek uncomfortable alliances with some of the groups that have killed Americans but now say they hate the group Al Qaeda in Iraq even more, and are willing to fight it.

Members of the 1920 Revolution Brigade, a Sunni resistance group that is dedicated to the expulsion of U.S. forces and takes its name from the revolt that pushed out the British occupation, are among those newly granted the right to patrol with U.S.-supplied uniforms and be exempt from AK-47 weapons seizures, said Lt. Col. James D. George, the acting American commander in the province.

Hopeful period

Just a year ago, this region appeared to be nearly pacified. Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab Zarqawi was killed just outside Baqubah, and U.S. commanders decided the province was ripe for the transfer of primary responsibility for security to Iraqi forces.

Instead, Al Qaeda quickly regained a sanctuary in the province and imposed its extremist interpretation of Islam. U.S. and Iraqi security forces scarcely venture into west Baqubah, where smoking is prohibited, as is the sale of women's clothing by men. Even placing a cucumber next to a tomato in the markets is forbidden because they have been gendered male and female.

Violators have been arrested and confined to outdoor mats in makeshift prison camps. U.S. soldiers found and freed 41 people last month in such a camp, including a 13-year-old boy who said he had been caught smoking.

As Al Qaeda assumes some of the trappings of government, the elected local government faded from view for long stretches of the last year.

The provincial governing council did not hold a single meeting for six months ending in April and spent only 2% of its $165-million budget for basic services and reconstruction projects last year.

George said things were slowly improving after a sustained effort to retake Baqubah since his brigade's arrival in October. A $228-million budget was recently sent by the provincial governing council to Baghdad for approval, and government salaries are once again flowing.

The commander credits the tenuous gains to the block-by-block effort to take back the city, beginning with a police station in the southeast section where Al Qaeda operatives had lowered the Iraqi flag and raised a black one.

"We said OK, fine, we're taking it back," George said.

But even with the recovery of the station, he acknowledged that security in the surrounding area remains poor, and the effort to add more U.S. military outposts has not reached the western half of the city.

"Obviously, we had hoped to be farther along by now. Unfortunately, the enemy has a vote," George said.

A significant hindrance to the effort has been the Iraqi security forces, he said. The Iraqi army and police proved to be ineffective and abusive, targeting Sunni Arabs for detention and holding them for 10 months or more without any access to the courts, George said.

In the meantime, U.S. forces in Diyala are looking past the Iraqi police and army for help driving Al Qaeda from the province. Dozens of militia members have been outfitted by American troops with brown T-shirts spray-painted with numbers and will soon be provided with cards identifying them as members of "the Concerned Local Nationals."

The gunmen are allowed large caches of AK-47s and ammunition, and they are promised eventual positions in the Baqubah police force.

Risky strategy

George said the group included members of the 1920 Revolution Brigade and other fighters who have engaged in violent battles with Americans, but he said no one on a "high-value target" list would be able to evade American capture.

"Since we came here, the No. 1 priority has been to drive a wedge between insurgents and terrorists, and this is one of the only ways to do that," George said.

He acknowledged that aligning with fighters whose long-term agenda remained unclear was risky, but said it was part of a countrywide strategy to jump-start efforts against the insurgency.

On a recent day, Capt. Marc Austin led a squad of soldiers from their command outpost in an abandoned women's college to visit the new partners.

Along the way, Austin passed homes demolished by Apache helicopter fire after insurgents used the dwellings to set off bombs that killed members of his company. Main thoroughfares were impassable because of bomb craters. On one narrow street, Austin's men had been ambushed by snipers on rooftops.

"On each of these streets, I've lost guys," Austin said.

Finally, at an intersection where three of his men died in a Bradley fighting vehicle when it was struck by a makeshift bomb, the soldiers entered a courtyard to find dozens of men wearing the brown T-shirts.

The men said they knew where to find two newly planted improvised explosive devices in the road and agreed to dig them up for the Americans, who then detonated the devices, causing windows to crack. One of the devices blew a 6-foot-deep crater.

"Thank God we found that. It would have destroyed basically any vehicle we have," 1st Lt. Sean McCaffrey said.

Rifle turns up

But relations soured when the Americans found a sniper rifle in the home that was not covered by their agreement. When Austin insisted on seizing the weapon, some of the men's eyes began to well with tears and the leader of the group, who identified himself as Haidr, said, "We are trying to help you, but you are not trying to help us."

The Americans walked a few blocks to another abandoned home where more members of the Concerned Local Nationals were found.

Austin asked for the man he had been told led the group, but a thin man wearing a red "Seattle Sport Club" sweatsuit said he was the group's actual leader and wanted Austin to leave.

"He said he doesn't want to work with the U.S. He hates the U.S.," the American military interpreter said. "He said the neighbors say, 'You guys don't work for Iraq, you work for the U.S.'

"If he's not going to go outside and tell me where I can find these IEDs," Austin said, "what's the point of me letting him maintain AK-47s here? What are we doing if he isn't going to dig?"

Finally, one of the militia members agreed to wear a disguise and point to the place where the Americans could find an IED.

The soldiers laid some explosives on top of the spot in the road and took cover inside the home of a 78-year-old man who said he had been abandoned by his 12 children when they left for safer parts of Iraq. The old man said he had no food and wanted to die.

Outside, the explosives laid by the soldiers blew up, but there was no IED underneath.
 
The goal should be to put the bomb makers out of business. Find them and kill them. Once the bomb is made its really too late. During Vietnam US special forces regularly found weapons cache's and instead of destroying them they would sabotauge the mortar/rocket  rounds would exoplode in the tubes and grenades would explode on pulling the pin. The goal was to shake the confidence the NVA had in their weapons. In 2004 the CIA advocated the same type of plan in Iraq that would have flooded the bomb makers with booby trapped detonators that would have exploded in the bomb maker's hands but the CIA's general counsel's office said no to the plan.
 
We were to TF Troy at BIAP a number of times, using their EID/EFP 'jungle lanes'. We leanred the types of IED, and the several types of ways used to detonate them. Due to OPSEC I wo't discuss ECMs, but no matter how good your ECMs are, all the latest technolgy, etc, they will still go back to both command and victim detonation. The KISS principle 'insuregent style'. Always works.

These EIDs at times were so well camouflaged, you could barely spot them walking, so whizzing about in a convoy of LAVs at 60KPH, wearing dirty goggles, maikng one's way through the dust or mud, being bumped and banged around, while scanning your arcs and trying to stay focused. It is almost impossible unless you maybe spot a ranging marker, ( or detonating dog by chance) and by the its too late. In the past matter of weeks, Australian Forces in Iraq has lost several LAVs due to EID and EFP. We have been fortunate enough not to have anyone killed. Sure our TTPs evolve, and so do theirs to counter ours, and the cycle continues as you read this....

We had been told through out our tour that the copper warheads for the EFPs were coming out of Iran. Both military grade HE, and local HME were and are still being used on these EFPs. The IEDs are often AT/AP mines, rockets, artillery and mortar rds, or makeshift devices, which are crude but effective at close range.


Cheers,

Wes 
 
I see from the videos on line that the use of dead dogs as camouflage for IED’s is shown, also understand they use dead bodies of civilians and police. 
 
Locally, I can remember a mini-bus with 9 bodies in it. Prior to opening the door of thte bus, it was noted by the US EOD blokes, that there was wires protruding, and sure enough, the whole vehicle was rigged to blow to take out the 'rescue team' the dead, and the bus.

This was a repeated occurance, as noted in our routine INT briefs.

Never under-estimate the bad guys, they evolve all the time, just as much as we do to prevent such events. They counte everything we do, jsut as we would if we were in their shoes.

Wes
 
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