Global Warming/Climate Change Super Thread

[Brad Sallows]

In addition to demanding energy company executives explain themselves, politicians are also upset about advertising.

I could wish these mental midget politicians and the fools who support them understood that the demand for the products originates with the people, and that the economic and lifestyle disruptions activists and bandwagon-riders are trying to bring about will create armies of angry voters who will not be long in ignorance about who f*cked things up.

 

[Quirky]

Calgary expected to hit 37deg today. Will it break past records?

36.7°C – August 10, 2018
36.2°C – June 29, 2021
36.1°C – July 1, 2021
36.1°C – July 25, 1933
36.1°C – July 15, 1919
36°C – June 30, 2021
35.6°C – July 22, 1936
35.6°C – August 3, 1914
35.3°C – July 26, 1984
35°C – August 5, 1971

EXTREME! Years ago we used to call it summer. Several of those are recent, which is proof of an global boiling emergency!

On a global scale however, we hit 13 straight months for heat records. Weather patterns and events will only get worse, hold onto your hats people, mother nature is trying to fend off this virus called humanity.

 

[QV]

Since 100 years is a mere quark in time for this planet... I'd like to see the pattern of fluctuations for at least the last 100,000 years before getting too alarmed.

 

[YZT580]

We're on the rebound...

Post-glacial rebound​

The uplift has taken place in two distinct stages. The initial uplift following deglaciation was almost immediate due to the elastic response of the crust as the ice load was removed. After this elastic phase, uplift proceeded by slow viscous flow at an exponentially decreasing rate.[citation needed] Today, typical uplift rates are of the order of 1 cm/year or less. In northern Europe, this is clearly shown by the GPS data obtained by the BIFROST GPS network;[3] for example in Finland, the total area of the country is growing by about seven square kilometers per year.[4][5] Studies suggest that rebound will continue for at least another 10,000 years. The total uplift from the end of deglaciation depends on the local ice load and could be several hundred metres near the centre of rebound.

Post-glacial rebound - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Watts up with That has an article out recently on this very issue re: North America. Seems that the west coast is on the rebound whilst areas of the east coast are subsiding. Plus there is the additional issue of

Calgary expected to hit 37deg today. Will it break past records?

36.7°C – August 10, 2018
36.2°C – June 29, 2021
36.1°C – July 1, 2021
36.1°C – July 25, 1933
36.1°C – July 15, 1919
36°C – June 30, 2021
35.6°C – July 22, 1936
35.6°C – August 3, 1914
35.3°C – July 26, 1984
35°C – August 5, 1971

EXTREME! Years ago we used to call it summer. Several of those are recent, which is proof of an global boiling emergency!

On a global scale however, we hit 13 straight months for heat records. Weather patterns and events will only get worse, hold onto your hats people, mother nature is trying to fend off this virus called humanity.

Carbon dioxide and a warming climate are not problems​

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ajes.12579
(from the abstract)
the IPCC claims that extreme weather events are worse now than in the past, however observations do not support this. Some extreme weather events, such as the land area under extreme drought (Lomborg, 2020), is decreasing, not increasing. Globally the incidence of hurricanes shows no significant trend (IPCC, 2013, p. 216; Lomborg, 2020).

Observations show no increase in damage or any danger to humanity today due to extreme weather or global warming (Crok & May, 2023, pp. 140–161; Scafetta, 2024). Climate change mitigation, according to AR6, means curtailing the use of fossil fuels, even though fossil fuels are still abundant and inexpensive. Since the current climate is arguably better than the pre-industrial climate and we have observed no increase in extreme weather or climate mortality, we conclude that we can plan to adapt to any future changes.

Every time I hear the doom and gloom about global warming I remember that it is people like our prime minister who are pushing it and I figure nah, if they say its true it must be because saying so supplies they and their friends a very solid economic future. They are also the ones investing in waterfront property. With backers like that it has to be a lie and I don't feel bad at all.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Watts up with That has an article out recently on this very issue re: North America. Seems that the west coast is on the rebound whilst areas of the east coast are subsiding. Plus there is the additional issue of

Carbon dioxide and a warming climate are not problems​

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ajes.12579
(from the abstract)
the IPCC claims that extreme weather events are worse now than in the past, however observations do not support this. Some extreme weather events, such as the land area under extreme drought (Lomborg, 2020), is decreasing, not increasing. Globally the incidence of hurricanes shows no significant trend (IPCC, 2013, p. 216; Lomborg, 2020).

Observations show no increase in damage or any danger to humanity today due to extreme weather or global warming (Crok & May, 2023, pp. 140–161; Scafetta, 2024). Climate change mitigation, according to AR6, means curtailing the use of fossil fuels, even though fossil fuels are still abundant and inexpensive. Since the current climate is arguably better than the pre-industrial climate and we have observed no increase in extreme weather or climate mortality, we conclude that we can plan to adapt to any future changes.

Every time I hear the doom and gloom about global warming I remember that it is people like our prime minister who are pushing it and I figure nah, if they say its true it must be because saying so supplies they and their friends a very solid economic future. They are also the ones investing in waterfront property. With backers like that it has to be a lie and I don't feel bad at all.

And then there's the whole 'Global Cooling' thing that you'll never hear much about. More proof that it's a complex issue made 'simple' by those with hidden, or not so hidden, agendas....

We’ve been accidentally cooling the planet — and it’s about to stop​

Humans’ fossil fuel burning has cooled the planet while warming it — presenting problems for the future.

It is widely accepted that humans have been heating up the planet for over a century by burning coal, oil and gas. Earth has already warmed by almost 1.2 degrees Celsius (2.2 degrees Fahrenheit) since preindustrial times, and the planet is poised to race past the hoped-for limit of 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming.

But fewer people know that burning fossil fuels doesn’t just cause global warming — it also causes global cooling. It is one of the great ironies of climate change that air pollution, which has killed tens of millions, has also curbed some of the worst effects of a warming planet.
Tiny particles from the combustion of coal, oil and gas can reflect sunlight and spur the formation of clouds, shading the planet from the sun’s rays. Since the 1980s, those particles have offset between 40 and 80 percent of the warming caused by greenhouse gases.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/06/25/climate-aerosols-shipping-global-cooling/

 

[suffolkowner]

And then there's the whole 'Global Cooling' thing that you'll never hear much about. More proof that it's a complex issue made 'simple' by those with hidden, or not so hidden, agendas....

We’ve been accidentally cooling the planet — and it’s about to stop​

Humans’ fossil fuel burning has cooled the planet while warming it — presenting problems for the future.

It is widely accepted that humans have been heating up the planet for over a century by burning coal, oil and gas. Earth has already warmed by almost 1.2 degrees Celsius (2.2 degrees Fahrenheit) since preindustrial times, and the planet is poised to race past the hoped-for limit of 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming.

But fewer people know that burning fossil fuels doesn’t just cause global warming — it also causes global cooling. It is one of the great ironies of climate change that air pollution, which has killed tens of millions, has also curbed some of the worst effects of a warming planet.
Tiny particles from the combustion of coal, oil and gas can reflect sunlight and spur the formation of clouds, shading the planet from the sun’s rays. Since the 1980s, those particles have offset between 40 and 80 percent of the warming caused by greenhouse gases.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/06/25/climate-aerosols-shipping-global-cooling/

Aerosols haven't been a secret. We've been investigating their impact for decades. The reduction in aerosols was known to have an impact on temperature increases. We lost a dedicated satellite to aerosol tracking in one of the shuttle disasters. The solar cycle is for cooling right now as are the cumulative Milankovitch cycles

 

[YZT580]

And then there's the whole 'Global Cooling' thing that you'll never hear much about. More proof that it's a complex issue made 'simple' by those with hidden, or not so hidden, agendas....

We’ve been accidentally cooling the planet — and it’s about to stop​

Humans’ fossil fuel burning has cooled the planet while warming it — presenting problems for the future.

It is widely accepted that humans have been heating up the planet for over a century by burning coal, oil and gas. Earth has already warmed by almost 1.2 degrees Celsius (2.2 degrees Fahrenheit) since preindustrial times, and the planet is poised to race past the hoped-for limit of 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming.

But fewer people know that burning fossil fuels doesn’t just cause global warming — it also causes global cooling. It is one of the great ironies of climate change that air pollution, which has killed tens of millions, has also curbed some of the worst effects of a warming planet.
Tiny particles from the combustion of coal, oil and gas can reflect sunlight and spur the formation of clouds, shading the planet from the sun’s rays. Since the 1980s, those particles have offset between 40 and 80 percent of the warming caused by greenhouse gases.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/06/25/climate-aerosols-shipping-global-cooling/

Talk about covering your ass. Burning fossil fuel causes global warming. Burning fossil fuel causes global cooling. Burning fossil fuel causes the sea to rise. Burning fossil fuel causes (fill in the blank). Well here is the truth and remember you read it first from YZT580. Burning fossil fuel has enabled us to have leisure time to watch football, hockey, baseball and watch our kids grow up rather than putting them out to work at 12. It lights our houses, increases our food output and allows us to fish for pleasure instead of survival. There is no down side to burning fossil fuel that having access to fossil fuel can't give us the time to resolve.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Talk about covering your ass. Burning fossil fuel causes global warming. Burning fossil fuel causes global cooling. Burning fossil fuel causes the sea to rise. Burning fossil fuel causes (fill in the blank). Well here is the truth and remember you read it first from YZT580. Burning fossil fuel has enabled us to have leisure time to watch football, hockey, baseball and watch our kids grow up rather than putting them out to work at 12. It lights our houses, increases our food output and allows us to fish for pleasure instead of survival. There is no down side to burning fossil fuel that having access to fossil fuel can't give us the time to resolve.

Meanwhile, I'm feeling attacked by the privileged few in Ottawa...

... ironically about 95% of the constituents in her riding - Saanich-Gulf Islands - are Boomers

https://twitter.com/x/status/1811093029660381607

That's OK though, just following in the footsteps of this one. Hello pot, this is kettle

https://twitter.com/x/status/1810887530297847952

 

[SeaKingTacco]

E. May is gone from her riding, next election.

You heard it here, first.

 

[Brad Sallows]

One person's "f*cked the planet" is another person's "used technology and resources to make massive improvements in delivering calories, health care, and other QoL improvements to many of the world's most desperately impoverished people".

 

[daftandbarmy]

One person's "f*cked the planet" is another person's "used technology and resources to make massive improvements in delivering calories, health care, and other QoL improvements to many of the world's most desperately impoverished people".

Amen to that...

How the Boomers Saved Everything​

Yes, we’re spoiled rotten. We’re self-absorbed. And it seems like we’ll never shut up. But the boomers made a better world for everyone else. You’re welcome​

by P.J. O'Rourke, AARP The Magazine

How the Baby Boomers Saved Everything by P.J. O'Rourke

As the last of the boomers generation turns 50 and more retire, P. J. O'Rourke discusses this wealthy, educated, spoiled-rotten generation.

www.aarp.org

 

[dimsum]

Opinion: Don’t axe the facts

Breaking News, Sports, Manitoba, Canada

www.winnipegfreepress.com

 

[Good2Golf]

Meanwhile, I'm feeling attacked by the privileged few in Ottawa...

... ironically about 95% of the constituents in her riding - Saanich-Gulf Islands - are Boomers

https://twitter.com/x/status/1811093029660381607

She would know…she is one. Hypocrisy knows no bounds…

 

[daftandbarmy]

She would know…she is one. Hypocrisy knows no bounds…

And she's abiding in a glass house too, it seems

It’s ‘obvious’ Justin Trudeau should step down, Elizabeth May says — so why won’t she listen to her own critics?​

Following a press conference where May’s unofficial co-leader resigned, the long-time Green party leader was confronted by questions about her own leadership.

Althia Raj: It’s ‘obvious’ Justin Trudeau should step down, Elizabeth May says — so why won’t she listen to her own critics?

Following a press conference where May's unofficial co-leader resigned, the long-time Green party leader was confronted by questions about her own leadership.

www.thestar.com

 

[dimsum]

And she's abiding in a glass house too, it seems

It’s ‘obvious’ Justin Trudeau should step down, Elizabeth May says — so why won’t she listen to her own critics?​

Following a press conference where May’s unofficial co-leader resigned, the long-time Green party leader was confronted by questions about her own leadership.

Althia Raj: It’s ‘obvious’ Justin Trudeau should step down, Elizabeth May says — so why won’t she listen to her own critics?

Following a press conference where May's unofficial co-leader resigned, the long-time Green party leader was confronted by questions about her own leadership.

www.thestar.com

My take is that the Greens have so little chance of making a political impact that her job is relatively “safe” - whether she stays on or not, most Canadian voters won’t care because they won’t vote for them anyway.