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Furniture

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I was just reading this Reddit thread about "process rather than success" in the Aussie military:

I suspect it is a blight that exists in all bureaucracies, since following the process means you are protected if anything goes wrong. "I don't know why it failed, I followed all the rules."

I also am starting to suspect it has to do with the personality types that are drawn to working in bureaucracies... The sort of people who want to get things done tend to bow out, and the ones quite content to check off boxes on a spreadsheet stick around.
 

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I also am starting to suspect it has to do with the personality types that are drawn to working in bureaucracies... The sort of people who want to get things done tend to bow out, and the ones quite content to check off boxes on a spreadsheet stick around.
Maybe?

Thinking about the aviation sector, pilots are folks who generally are seen as "wanting to get things done", but the actual process of flying, from signing out the aircraft to signing it back in, is very bureaucratic. Even in the flight deck, it's all about checklist procedures.
 

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Maybe?

Thinking about the aviation sector, pilots are folks who generally are seen as "wanting to get things done", but the actual process of flying, from signing out the aircraft to signing it back in, is very bureaucratic. Even in the flight deck, it's all about checklist procedures.
There is a difference between following a procedure that leads somewhere, and following a procedure that leads to more procedure...

I could be wrong, I am a weather guy... It happens on a rare occasion. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I suspect it is a blight that exists in all bureaucracies, since following the process means you are protected if anything goes wrong. "I don't know why it failed, I followed all the rules."

I also am starting to suspect it has to do with the personality types that are drawn to working in bureaucracies... The sort of people who want to get things done tend to bow out, and the ones quite content to check off boxes on a spreadsheet stick around.

Paradoxically, a little red tape can set you free ... sometimes ;)

 

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I suspect it is a blight that exists in all bureaucracies, since following the process means you are protected if anything goes wrong. "I don't know why it failed, I followed all the rules."

I also am starting to suspect it has to do with the personality types that are drawn to working in bureaucracies... The sort of people who want to get things done tend to bow out, and the ones quite content to check off boxes on a spreadsheet stick around.
The whole environmental review thing is critically flawed. I know several cases where the proponent was willing to change a project for the better, but it would have triggered a new review, so instead they went with the reviewed one, even though a better option had been identified. Mainly as almost every case challenging a EA was based on the process and not the results. Prior to Harpers forcing them to become a real Regulatory Agency, I called the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency the "Teflon Department" , because nothing stuck to them, process was king, results were immaterial and they disappeared after the review, never to get involved again in the project. On one project in Prince Rupert they left us a frigging crapfest where we as a regulating agency had to stand up for the little guy because CEAA had ignored local issues in their review. Then we were held up as the roadblock because we would not issue a permit till that issue was resolved.
 
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