DND 404 - Driver's Licence ( merged )

[Nfld Sapper]

Maybe you can answer this, as MSE in Edmonton wasn't able to and the list that accompanied the latest version of my 404s didn't list these two Specialties: Q and Z.

Also, as a side note there is no Class & Level for the Nanuk/LAV RWS - I believe it falls under a "configuration" of the LAV III.

WPN systems do not appear on 404's.

If I am not mistaken SPEC Q is HLVW Air Brake Endorsement......As I too have that speciality

 

[Timmy!]

As of today, this is what Fleet Managment System brings up for permit codes. If you got any questions on your 404's drop me a PM. I can look it up in the system for you. And try my best to answer it.

A Commercial Passenger Vehicles
A1 (SC) (SW) (C/ALL) up to 9 passenger
A10 LIMO 2008-12-31 12:00 AM
A11 Bus Mobile Recruiting
A12 Bus (with wheelchair accessibility)
A2 (SC) (SW) Carryall (CA) up to 9 passenger (deleted)
A3 (SC) (SW) (C/ALL) up to 12 passenger
A4 (SC) (SW) (C/ALL) up to 15 passenger
A5 SC,SW,C/ALL, Buses up to 28 passenger
A6 SC,SW,C/ALL, Buses up to 48 passenger
A7 SC,SW,C/ALL, all Buses
B Commercial Cargo and Recovery
B1 Vehicle (up to and including 1½ ton capacity)
B10 Light/Heavy Vehicle Recovery Commercial
B11 Vehicle (2 ton capacity)
B12 MSV (5 ton, T/T combination, ECC 148104 and 155101)
B13 Truck PLS S/C (non-HLVW)
B14 Flatbed Truck (17 ton, 20 ft, 6X6)
B15 Truck Chassis (ECC 144301 & 149301 only)
B16 Dolly Trailer (front, tandem axle, 3628 kg)
B17 Flatbed Truck (26 ft, 6x4, GVWR, up to 60,000 lbs)
B2 Vehicle (3 ton capacity)
B3 Vehicle (up to and including 5 ton capacity)
B4 Vehicle (up to and including 10 ton capacity)
B48 Zamboni 2009-11-2 12:00 AM
B5 Tractor Trailer (all combinations)
C SMP Vehicle 2003-1-1 12:00 AM
C1 Vehicle (up to and including 1¼ ton)
C10 Cougar , Grizzly
C11 Lynx
C12 Bison (All configurations)
C13 Coyote (all configurations except ambulance)
C14 LAV III
C15 HLVW Refueller (10000 litres)
C16 HLVW Refueller (7000 litres)
C17 Bison (ambulance configuration)
C18 LIGHT ARMOURED VEHICLE, MAINTENANCE AND RECOVERY  VEHICLE, WHEELED, 8X
C19 105 MM (towed)
C2 Medium Logistics Vehicle Wheeled (MLVW) TO BE DELETED
C20 M-109 (self-propelled)
C21 Leopard Tank
C22 Tank, Bridgelayer
C23 Armoured Personnel Carrier (M113)
C24 Armoured Cargo Carrier (M548)
C25 Armoured Command Post (M577)
C26 Armoured Personnel Carrier (M113) Dozer
C27 Tracked Light Armoured Vehicle (TLAV)
C28 Armoured Maintenance Vehicle (tracked M113, remote weapon system)
C29 LIGHT ARMOURED VEHICLE, BISON (LE),  COMMAND, CONTROL, COMM. AND INTELLIGENCE
C3 SMP Vehicle ( up to 5 ton, not allocated)
C30 Personnel/Cargo Carrier (BV206)
C31 Command Post Carrier (BV2061)
C32 Tow Missile Carrier (BV2063)
C33 LAV III Engineer
C4 Heavy Logistics Vehicles Wheeled (HLVW) TO BE DELETED
C40 Tractor Trailer (all combinations SMP)
C41 Armour Vehicle Mine Resistant
C42 Wrecker (5 ton)
C43 Wrecker (10 ton)
C44 Husky
C45 ARV (light tracked)
C46 ARV (heavy tracked)
C47 Remote Mine-Clearing Vehicle (Mini Flail)
C48 Armour Vehicle Mine-Clearing
C49 Heavy Engineer Support Vehicle (remote controlled)
C5 Medium Support Vehicle System MILCOTS (MSVSM) All configurations
C50 Tank Transporter
C51 LUVW
C52 LUVW MILCOTS
C53 Medium Logistics Vehicle Wheeled (MLVW)
C54 Heavy Logistics Vehicles Wheeled (HLVW)
C60 ILTIS (all configurations)
C61 CJ-7/HMMWV (¼ ton)
C62 LSVW
C63 HLVW Truck (16 ton, PLS)
C64 HLVW Medium Floating Bridge (BBE)
C65 ARMOURED ENGINEER VEH
C70 Ambulance SMP (up to including 1 ton)
C71 Ambulance LSVW 2008-10-31 12:00 AM
C72 Mine Detection Towing/Detonation vehicle and trailer.
C73 Engineer Rapid Response vehicle, cougar, 6X6
C74 Mine Investigation Vehicule, Buffalo, 6X6
C84 Trk, AHSVS, Cargo, Tarp
C85 Trk, AHSVS, Arty Gun Tr
C86 Trk, PLS, AHSVS
C87 Trk, Tractor AHSVS, 18T, All types
C88 Trk, Wrecker, AHSVS, 16T
C89 TRK, TRACTOR AHSVS 13.5 T
C90 TRK, TRACTOR AHSVS 16 T, MOBILE REPAIR TEAM
D Aircraft Support (aircraft services)
D1 Refuelling Vehicle (up to 7000 litres)
D10 Aircraft Towing Tractor (light, mule)
D11 Aircraft Towing Tractor (heavy, mule)
D12 Aircraft De-Icer
D13 Aircraft Stairs Truck
D14 Aircraft Lift Platform
D15 Food Servicing Truck (van hoisting body)
D16 Airfield Crash Crane
D17 Conveyer Loader A/C (self propelled)
D2 Refuelling Vehicle (up to 18000 litres)
D3 Refuelling Vehicle (up to 36000 litres)
D4 Truck Tank Aircraft Refulling tender 36000 Litre
E Ground Maintenance
E1 Dump Truck (up to and including 4 cz)
E10 Agricultural and Industrial Tractors (with attachments)
E11 Agricultural and industrial Tractors (side plow)
E12 Agricultural and Industrial Tractor (with front-end loader)
E13 Agricultural and Industrial Tractor (with back-hoe)
E14 Truck/Tractor (6X6, DED, 50 ton, GCWR)
E2 Dump Truck (up to and including 7 cz)
E20 Runway Sweeper (towed)
E21 Snowplow
E22 Snowplow/Dump Truck (heavy duty 7.8 to 12 cz)
E23 Snowblower (all configurations)
E24 Salt, Sand and Chemical Spreader
E25 Runway Sweeper (self-propelled)
E26 Street Sweeper
E3 Dump Truck (up to and including 10 cz)
E4 Truck/Tractor (6X6, DED, 50 ton GCWR)
E5 Dump Truck (heavy duty, 6X6, tandem, 7.7 cz)
E6 Dump Truck (heavy duty, single wheel, snowplow, one way)
E9 Lawn & Grounds care Tractor 0-39 HP
F Material Handling Vehicles
F1 Warehouse Lift Platform
F10 Truck bomb lift
F11 Lift (container handling)
F12 Warehouse Tractor
F13 Stock Picker (3000 lbs, wire guided, manual, 18 and 30 feet)
F14 Forklift EE Type (3000 lbs, swing mast one side only, Drexel)
F15 Order Picker M-38 (3000 lbs, swing reach, wire guided, manual)
F16 Stacker/Crane 589 (3000 lbs, rail guided, manual, up to 60 feet)
F17 Forklift (50000 lbs, RTFL)
F18 Forklift Zoom Boom all types
F2 Warehouse Tractor
F3 Forklift (up to and including 4000 lbs)
F4 Forklift (up to and including 6000 lbs)
F5 Forklift all types (Except Zoom-Boom)
F6 Forklifts (SISU)
G Specialty Vehicles
G1 Fire Truck Pumper
G10 Motorcycle
G11 Sled (self-propelled)
G12 Truck Sewage Cleaning
G13 Servicing platforms
G14 Truck Servicing Platform
G15 Floor Scrubber
G16 Crash Ambulance
G17 SC Ambulance
G18 Light Utility Vehicles (ATV)
G19 Carrier (cargo/person, TRKD, snow travel)
G2 Crash Truck - Basic
G20 Transport cargo terra Tired articulated
G21 Truck Van 1½ ton (explosive containment system)
G22 Truck Mobile Recruiting Office
G23 Light Utility Vehicles (Type Argo and Supercat)
G24 Carrier Ambulance
G25 Carrier (dump, tracked, w/blade air droppable)
G26 Truck refuse collection (collector type)
G27 Light Utility Vehicles (Type Ranger, Gator, Kubota, Kawasaki)
G28 Airstream 2002-12-30 12:00 AM
G29 Cart Golf
G3 Crash Truck (all purpose)
G30 ATV Trail Groomer
G31 Truck FF Emergency Rescue
G32 Truck Svc Platform
G33 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Truck
G4 Range Fire Truck
G5 Fire Truck (all types)
G6 Fire Truck (range type ATV)
H00 Heavy Equipment
H10 Loader Scoop
H11 Front End Loader (with backhoe)
H12 Skid Steer Loader (bobcat style)
H13 RTCH (Rough Terrain Container Handler) Zettlmeyer
H14 Lift King, RTCH (Rough Terrain Container Handler)
H15 RT 240 (Rough Terrain Container Handler)
H19 EXCAVATOR TRKD DED, 6.4 M
H20 Dozer
H21 Excavator
H22 Grader
H23 Ditching machine (Ditch Witch)
H24 Roller (motorized)
H25 Crush/screen/wash plant
H26 Scraper Earth Moving
H27 Multi-Purpose Engineering Vehicles (MPEV)
J Crane
J1 Crane (up to and including 5 ton)
J10 Crane Truck (up to and including 5000 lbs)
J11 Crane Truck (up to and including 10 ton)
J12 Crane Truck (up to and including 55 ton)
J13 Crane Truck (56 ton and above)
J2 Crane (up to and including 10 ton)
J3 Crane (up to and including 15 ton)
J4 Crane (up to and including 20 ton)
J5 Crane (all types except aircraft crash)
T Trailer (non 5th wheel)
T1 Trailer (up to 1 ton)
T10 Airstream
T11 Roller (towed)
T12 Trailer (forward area refueller)
T13 105 MM (towed)
T14 155 MM (gun towed)
T2 Trailer (up to 1 ½ ton)
T3 Trailer (up to 5 ton)
T4 Trailer (up to 10 ton)
T5 Trailer (up to 15 ton)
T6 Trailer (exceeding 15 ton, non 5th wheel)
T7 Trailer (5th wheel)
T8 Semi-Tlr Lowbed 72T
T9 SEMI-TLR LOWBED 26 T, W/DUAL LOADING WINCH
Z1 Zamboni Operator


SPECIALTY - TITRES DE COMPÉTÉNCE SPÉCIAUX
A - Propane Operation (ATP) / Véhicule au propane
B - Air Brake / Freins à air
C - Dangerous Goods / Matieres Dangereuses
D - Ambulance Driver / Chauffeur d'ambulance
E - DDC / CCP
EI - Interactive DDC/CCP Ineteractive
F - SBC / CCPMA
G - PDIC / CPCP
H - Ramp DDC / CCPTA
J - Driver Instructor / Instructeur - Conducteur
K - Driver Examiner / Examinateur - Conducteur
L - Troop Carrying / Transport des troupes
M - Winter Driving Program /Programme de conduite en hiver
N - Forklift Operation Course / Cours dopération de chariot élévateur
O - Formal DND driver training / Formation des conducteurs MDN formel
P - Air Brake Endorsement (LAV III) / Fonctionnement des freins à air (VBL III)
RESTRICTIONS
1 - Must wear corrective lenses while driving / Doit porter des verres correcteurs pour conduire
5 - Restricted to PDL Licence / Restreint aux normes du PCP permit
QUALIFICATION SUFFIXES / SUFFIXES DE QUALIFICATION
b - DND property/trg. area only / Seulement sur la propriété du MDN incluant les secteurs dentraînement
s - Under supervision only / Ne peut conduire que sous supervision
t - Training / Entrainement
m - For maintenance purposes only / Ne peut conduire quaux fins de maintenance seulement
CLASSES OF VEHICLES/EQUIPMENT - CATÉGORIES DE VÉHICULES/ÉQUIPEMENT
A - Commercial passenger / Transport commercial de passagers
B - Commercial Cargo / Transport commercial de marchandises
C - Standard Military Pattern, Armoured vehicles / Modèle militaire régulier, véhicules blindés
D - Aircraft and Airfield Support / Support daéronefs et daérodrome
E - Ground Maintenance / Entretien terrestre
F - Material Handling / Manutention du matériel
G - Specialized vehicles / Véhicules spéciaux
H - Heavy equipment / Équipement lourd
J - Cranes / Grues
T - Trailers / Remorque

 

[Fdtrucker]

CanadianTire

NLFD Sapper was correct stating Specialty Q = HLVW Air brakes
Specialty Z = RG31 Air brakes.

There are 4 different and separate Air brakes taught in the CF:
B= Commercial and P= LAVIII Air brakes and the 2 above.

Sorry forget to mention your RWS will be on your UER and MPRR

 

[Nfld Sapper]

CanadianTire

NLFD Sapper was correct stating Specialty Q = HLVW Air brakes
Specialty Z = RG31 Air brakes.

There are 4 different and separate Air brakes taught in the CF:
B= Commercial and P= LAVIII Air brakes and the 2 above.

Sorry forget to mention your RWS will be on your UER and MPRR

FDTRUCKER is there a reason why they don't show on the extra sheet printed out with the 404's?

 

[Occam]

Z1 Zamboni Operator?

And I seem to be missing my G29 Cart Golf qual...may need that by this weekend.  ;D

 

[dapaterson]

Note that there's also B48 - Zamboni as well.  Leading to the question:  Do you require 500 km/year on the Zamboni to stay current?  And since there are two different Zamboni quals, does that mean you need 2x500 km/year?

Does the CF driving competiton include a Zamboni event?

 

[BDTyre]

Thanks.  I knew the RWS would be on my UER, that was more just an FYI for people reading this who may be on the course or slotted on it.

 

[Fdtrucker]

To answer some questions.

NLFD Sapper - It probably has something to do with the program itself. You can contact the FMS Web help desk on the DIN

dataperson - for most vehicle it is 500 km every 3 years unless you are a Driver Trainer/Examiner and then you require 1000 kms in 3 yrs on each veh you are qual on to keep current. For equipment it is so many hours per year, depending on the ECC. How bases have more than 1 Zamboni? CFSDC does not include Zamboni, but include classes such HLVW, Route Discipline, Bus, 5 ton and Tractor Trailer. It is open to all trades as long as each person meets the pre-reqs to enter their base or regional competitions.

 

[dapaterson]

I guess I left off the

However, Zamboni is not the correct term - they are ice resurfacers; "Zamboni" is one manufacturer of the equipment - it would be like calling the LSVW a "Western Star".

 

[Nfld Sapper]

To answer some questions.

NLFD Sapper - It probably has something to do with the program itself. You can contact the FMS Web help desk on the DIN

dataperson - for most vehicle it is 500 km every 3 years unless you are a Driver Trainer/Examiner and then you require 1000 kms in 3 yrs on each veh you are qual on to keep current. For equipment it is so many hours per year, depending on the ECC. How bases have more than 1 Zamboni? CFSDC does not include Zamboni, but include classes such HLVW, Route Discipline, Bus, 5 ton and Tractor Trailer. It is open to all trades as long as each person meets the pre-reqs to enter their base or regional competitions.

Interesting FdTrucker....everyone here from my MSE are adement (spelling?) that I get 500 KM/year on our specialty equipment (i.e. the Dump) and 24 HR/year on the Industrial Tractor....

 

[Timmy!]

In SPV World, IIRC, dump reqr 30 hours of operation before getting qualifaction.

Fdtrucker, like bugging my boss the other day?  :nod:

Take care,
TN2IC

 

[Fdtrucker]

Zamboni will now be known as  - ice resurfacers -  SEEN  :camo:

I definately can think of some other colourful names for the LSVW

 

[phat]

Does anybody know if DND 404's have to be surrendered or given up if a driver (who has 404s) is involved in an accident?

 

[PMedMoe]

Does anybody know if DND 404's have to be surrendered or given up if a driver (who has 404s) is involved in an accident?

Given up to who?  Civilian police?  No.  Unit (or Base) Transport, perhaps, depends on the accident.

 

[Navalsnpr]

Do mean surrendered your DND404's to the Police like you would with a Provincial drivers licence when pulled over in a civilian car? or do mean during the DND accident investigation?

 

[phat]

After having an accident, my unit has informed me that I will have to surrender my 404s. I don't know if that is permanent or, as you said, just during the accident investigation?

 

[George Wallace]

There are many things that can happen here.  You may have lost your 404's due to the seriousness of the accident.  You may have your 404's suspended until such time as the Accident Investigation is complete and you have been cleared of wrong doing, or you have been found at fault and your 404's revoked.  You may have had your 404's revoked until such time as you have had remedial driving lessons.  You may have your 404's revoked until you can be retrained on that particular vehicle/class. 

It is difficult for anyone on this site, who doesn't know the particulars of your accident, the frame of mind of your CoC, nor your driving abilities to give you a clear and precise answer to your question.  We can give you a multitude of scenarios, but not state which, if any, pertain to your particular situation.

 

[aesop081]

  We can give you a multitude of scenarios, but not state which, if any, pertain to your particular situation.

Theres no need to do any of that. There is only one scenario that applies here. His unit told him that he is to surrender his 404s. Whatever the reason or the end-result is neither here nor there.

 

[Navalsnpr]

Could be easily a Unit / Area or Base TPT SOP to have your 404's suspended until the investigation is complete.

 

[bLUE fOX]

Good day every one.
I thought I would post this here instead of starting a new thread.
I am looking for information about the ramp DDC endorsement for the 404. Specifically, if I don't have this endorsement, can I still operate a vehicle on the aprons and taxiways at an airbase? I would have thought that the answer would be a definite no, but I have gotten conflicting answers. I have gone so far as to ask the MP's here at 12 wing, but they weren't sure either. If anyone can tell me where I could look to find an answer, that would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.