Chinese Military,Political and Social Superthread

[Weinie]

Then we better be pretty quick in setting up manufacturing facilities for the $75 billion of manufactured goods we get from there and find another market for the $25 billion of raw materials and agricultural goods we send their way.

It won't be Canada that does the reckoning.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Not enough pride

Yes. Ordinarily they would go through some charade to maintain a pretence of substance to save "face" (ie. wait a few weeks), but we know they were full of shit, they knew we knew they were full of shit, and they lack the spine to even pretend there was a matter of substance involved.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Well who didn’t see this coming.

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Now that they are out, sue to join AUKUS and a pox on their Communist house.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Meanwhile the Chinese Real Estate market (notice one them failed to come down)

 

[MilEME09]

How about we ban exporting thermal coal to China? That would hurt them and appease the environmental activists!

 

[RangerRay]

Why Terry Glavin doesn’t get more exposure is beyond me.

Terry Glavin: Justin Trudeau went all in on China a decade ago — and nothing can shake his resolve

Justin Trudeau has been singularly focused on trade with China, regardless of what the country's sadistic leadership does

nationalpost.com

 

[Good2Golf]

Maybe in 2023, enough Canadians will come to recognize Trudeau for President Xi’s puppet that he is, that we may have some slim hope of turning HMCS Pander2Dictators from its current destructive Leadmark…

 

[The Bread Guy]

... this hostage diplomacy BS needs to have consequences for China ...

No, no, no, you have it aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall wrong - here's China's take (links to archived version of article, not to Chinese site - highlights mine) .....

... Although some Western media outlets and politicians claimed the releasing of the two Canadians was an example of "hostage diplomacy," experts said Meng was indeed a "political hostage" taken by the US and Canada, noting that mounting evidence throughout the legal proceedings during Meng's fight against extradition showed she was the victim of political prosecution.

"In Spavor's case, imposing the order of deportation means he may not serve his jailtime in China but will be deported back to Canada. It leaves certain room for indictment while unleashing a gesture of goodwill," Qin Qianhong, a constitutional law professor at Wuhan University, told the Global Times.

Kovrig and Spavor were prosecuted by the Prosecutor General's Office in China for suspected crimes undermining China's national security in June 2020.

Kovrig was accused of using an ordinary passport and business visa to enter China to steal sensitive information and intelligence through contacts in China since 2017, while Spavor was accused of being a key source of intelligence for Kovrig.

Spavor was found to have taken photos and videos of Chinese military equipment on multiple occasions and illegally provided some of those photos to people outside China, which have been identified as second-tier state secrets, a source close to the matter told the Global Times on September 1 ...

Full screed also attached in case archive link doesn't work.

 

[RangerRay]

Terry Glavin: Only Chinese strongman Xi Jinping knows why the Michaels were released

Canadians have every reason to feel disgusted, embarrassed, ashamed and angry

nationalpost.com

 

[Remius]

Maybe China wanted all of this cleared up because of this:

China applies to join Pacific trade pact to boost economic clout

Japan said it would have to determine if China meets the "extremely high standards" of the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) after the world's second-biggest economy formally applied to join.

www.reuters.com

 

[daftandbarmy]

Maybe China wanted all of this cleared up because of this:

China applies to join Pacific trade pact to boost economic clout

Japan said it would have to determine if China meets the "extremely high standards" of the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) after the world's second-biggest economy formally applied to join.

www.reuters.com

I wonder if running concentration camps would disqualify a country from being able to join a trade pact?

 

[Remius]

I think they have more than just that as disqualifiers

 

[RangerRay]

Maybe China wanted all of this cleared up because of this:

China applies to join Pacific trade pact to boost economic clout

Japan said it would have to determine if China meets the "extremely high standards" of the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) after the world's second-biggest economy formally applied to join.

www.reuters.com

I thought the whole point of the TPP was to counteract Beijing?

 

[KevinB]

I thought the whole point of the TPP was to counteract Beijing?

It is -- I suspect this is just a stunt by China to portray an aggrieved party again.

 

[Remius]

It is -- I suspect this is just a stunt by China to portray an aggrieved party again.

Trying to get ahead of Taiwan applying.

 

[MilEME09]

The great Chinese layoff, the potential for 45 million unemployed, combined with the impending collapse of evergrande. The Chinese economy is in for hurt, could this lead to the demise of the ccp?

 

[dimsum]

The great Chinese layoff, the potential for 45 million unemployed, combined with the impending collapse of evergrande. The Chinese economy is in for hurt, could this lead to the demise of the ccp?

How trustworthy is China Insights as a channel? Never heard of them before.

 

[MilEME09]

How trustworthy is China Insights as a channel? Never heard of them before.

They seem to be fairly accurate, as they tend to use upen source data for the videos they make, as a result they are only as trustworthy as the data they have, but they try to show both CCP numbers and other data sources to compare.

 

[Blackadder1916]

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[Kirkhill]

No lights, no power, no water....

‘Unprecedented’ power cuts in China hits homes, factories

Northeastern China is experiencing power cuts because of coal shortages and the tightening of emissions standards.

www.aljazeera.com

China hit by power cuts and factory closures as energy crisis bites

The world’s top coal consumer implements power rationing as supplies dwindle ahead of winter

www.theguardian.com

China's energy crisis will rock the whole world

Country's power failure looms over Europe's own crisis - but there may be a silver lining

www.telegraph.co.uk

California Current Power Outages

U.K. Faces Winter Blackouts Risk After Fire Knocks Out Cable

Winter blackouts are now a real possibility after a fire took out a key cable that ships electricity to the U.K. from France.

www.bloomberg.com

Petrol shortage: Is the fuel crisis improving?

Only 127 fuel drivers from the EU have applied for the temporary visas designed to tackle the crisis.

www.bbc.com

If only we knew how to make power when we needed it. By burning stuff perhaps? Stuff we knew where it was and we could get it when we needed it?

On the other hand this has to be the answer to the conspiracy theory that Green Energy is a Chinese plot. Apparently they believe this stuff as well. Go figure.