Canadian Surface Combatant RFQ

[Czech_pivo]

How does this pay compare to ours - Victoria class sub to a future Australian nuc boat? What about a US nuc boat? Seems like the Australians know how to dangle a carrot in order to drive recruitment numbers in the right direction.

Australian navy advertises nuclear submarine job with $120,000 salary and ‘no experience’ needed​

The Australian Navy is offering high school graduates “with no experience at all” up to $120,000 to become nuclear submarine officers who will eventually manage nuclear reactors and weapons systems.
The recruitment drive has been launched despite Defence not being expected to receive a Virginia-class submarine from the US as part of the Aukus deal until at least the early 2030s and amid warnings of cost blowouts and delays. - WOW, imagine being that pro-active in trying to drive up recruitment when you know that the need is not required for another 7-8yrs. Talk about foresight!
A Defence spokesperson said the hiring drive was part of a long-term strategy to ensure it had enough specialist staff to deploy the submarine once acquired.

Australian navy advertises nuclear submarine job with $120,000 salary and ‘no experience’ needed

Defence outlines long-term strategy to staff US-built Virginia-class submarines expected in 2030s as part of Aukus deal

www.theguardian.com

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Time to replace the Rum ration with the Beer ration

 

[suffolkowner]

How does this pay compare to ours - Victoria class sub to a future Australian nuc boat? What about a US nuc boat? Seems like the Australians know how to dangle a carrot in order to drive recruitment numbers in the right direction.

Australian navy advertises nuclear submarine job with $120,000 salary and ‘no experience’ needed​

The Australian Navy is offering high school graduates “with no experience at all” up to $120,000 to become nuclear submarine officers who will eventually manage nuclear reactors and weapons systems.
The recruitment drive has been launched despite Defence not being expected to receive a Virginia-class submarine from the US as part of the Aukus deal until at least the early 2030s and amid warnings of cost blowouts and delays. - WOW, imagine being that pro-active in trying to drive up recruitment when you know that the need is not required for another 7-8yrs. Talk about foresight!
A Defence spokesperson said the hiring drive was part of a long-term strategy to ensure it had enough specialist staff to deploy the submarine once acquired.

Australian navy advertises nuclear submarine job with $120,000 salary and ‘no experience’ needed

Defence outlines long-term strategy to staff US-built Virginia-class submarines expected in 2030s as part of Aukus deal

www.theguardian.com

how many of the jobs on a nuke sub are specific to a nuclear submarine and arent they short submariners already?

 

[Czech_pivo]

how many of the jobs on a nuke sub are specific to a nuclear submarine and arent they short submariners already?

No clue.
The point that I'm trying to make is that they realise that they have a problem in that they won't have the necessary sailors/skills 8yrs out from now and that they are pro-actively trying to address it with a plan.
We know that we have a problem in that we won't have the necessary sailors/skills 10yrs (20% further into the future) out from now when the first of the CSC will be available and what are we doing pro-actively to address it? I'm not talking about news articles saying that we have a plan and whoa is us. Factor in the future subs that we are going to get (thanks Donald Trump in being President for the next 4yrs) and what plan do we have in place?

Is there a plan for us to place our sailors on RN T26's over the next 3-5yrs when they start becoming available to the RN so that we can train sailors on T26's will be like a first cousin to our River class destroyers?

 

[suffolkowner]

No clue.
The point that I'm trying to make is that they realise that they have a problem in that they won't have the necessary sailors/skills 8yrs out from now and that they are pro-actively trying to address it with a plan.
We know that we have a problem in that we won't have the necessary sailors/skills 10yrs (20% further into the future) out from now when the first of the CSC will be available and what are we doing pro-actively to address it? I'm not talking about news articles saying that we have a plan and whoa is us. Factor in the future subs that we are going to get (thanks Donald Trump in being President for the next 4yrs) and what plan do we have in place?

Do we really have a problem attracting people though? Or do we have a problem attracting or keeping the right people? Was there not over 70000 applications to join the CAF?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Do we really have a problem attracting people though? Or do we have a problem attracting or keeping the right people? Was there not over 70000 applications to join the CAF?

100% true about the 70,000 applications vs actual recruits!
Maybe the Australians were in the exact same situation 1-3yrs ago - plenty of applicants but the inability to execute on making them an actual recruit. But it sounds like they have, or are in the process of having, addressed this issue.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

No clue.
The point that I'm trying to make is that they realise that they have a problem in that they won't have the necessary sailors/skills 8yrs out from now and that they are pro-actively trying to address it with a plan.
We know that we have a problem in that we won't have the necessary sailors/skills 10yrs (20% further into the future) out from now when the first of the CSC will be available and what are we doing pro-actively to address it? I'm not talking about news articles saying that we have a plan and whoa is us. Factor in the future subs that we are going to get (thanks Donald Trump in being President for the next 4yrs) and what plan do we have in place?

Is there a plan for us to place our sailors on RN T26's over the next 3-5yrs when they start becoming available to the RN so that we can train sailors on T26's will be like a first cousin to our River class destroyers?

We have various plans to get people AEGIS qualified, before the first River Class Destroyer arrives.

 

[Navy_Pete]

We have various plans to get people AEGIS qualified, before the first River Class Destroyer arrives.

Those trades are much healthier though; it's some of the core trades that are needed to sail any ship (Martech in paricular) that is in a death spiral.

I think we'll have a hard time getting people to go from AOPs and JSS to CSC, and the way we are running the CPFs into the ground is hurting retention of those trades.

 

[calculus]

A little bit of explanation here on why AN/SLQ-32(V)6 was selected over the bespoke EW system MDA was going to design.

Canada Looks to US Navy for Non-Developmental EW for CSC

www.jedonline.com

 

[Lumber]

We have various plans to get people AEGIS qualified, before the first River Class Destroyer arrives.

Various *concepts of plans.

 

[deepblue202]

Saw this looks interesting

 

[Czech_pivo]

Saw this looks interesting

54 down, 6,446 more to go for 2025.

 

[Underway]

54 down, 6,446 more to go for 2025.

We're still in 24/25 fiscal year. An PRes SIP does count to Reg F SIP. However for a PRes Unit that's really damn good. STAR's approved strength is around 250 pers...

 

[Rainbow1910]

Captain Drew Graham (Director of Naval Requirements) recently did a Speakers Event for the Naval Association of Canada and had some interesting information to put forward to the public regarding some developments on the ISTAR program and others relating to the Halifax/River class vessels going forward. All of the information and photos below are taken from his slideshow, that I will link at the bottom for anybody interested.

ISTAR Program

- Up to 12 aircraft being procured.

- 2 compliant bids received in December 2024, and are actively being evaluated with the hopes of a contract being awarded within the next couple of months.

- Will be attached to a specific ship for the duration of a tasking, the vessel receiving a pair of UAV's alongside their associated operational equipment.

- UAV's will receive some integration into CMS-330.

- Electro-optical and infrared camera plus synthetic aperture radar carried as standard.

- 8 hour endurance.

- Largely automated, "pilotless" operations.

- Starting to train UAV operators and UAV maintainers from RCN sailor stocks, working on getting airworthiness certification roles changed over from the RCAF to RCN for these aircraft eventually. Long term RCN UAV trade potentially being looked at.

- 2027 to 2031 introduction timeline.

River class UAV (RCU)

- Providing ISR alongside "defensive/offensive warfighting capability" to next generation combatants.

- Carried alongside marine helicopters.

- Concepts stage, implementation very far out.

- Currently unfunded, 2036 to 2040 introduction timeline.

 

[Kirkhill]

Good. We can partner up with Norway, and participate more in the JEF and Arctic.

Norway is looking for Frigates as well

Not sure what Norway's plan is here given that they seemingly want to grab ships that are currently being built off the shelf and operate them as is in cooperation with a partner. Given the fact much of NATO is undergoing rapid and long overdue rearmament, there is precious little excess that anybody would seemingly be willing to part with.

The Type 26 and Type 31 are desperately needed by the Royal Navy to replace their current vessels, parting with any of these vessels would be a major pain point. The Type 31 is rather empty and lacking in capability Norway likely wants while the radar fit of the Type 26 is likely not up to par for a nation currently operating SPY-1 and AEGIS.

Norway is in a position to wait as their current frigates are not that old.

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Norway, and Europe, doesn't mind getting their ships built in "foreign" yards. In Europe's case that means low wage new entrant countries like Spain, Poland and Romania.

As to the Type 31. It is not only used by the RN but also by the Danes, the originators of the design in both its AAW and CS/ASW variants just across the Skagerrak, and by the Poles at the other end of the Baltic. The Danes are also responsible for the Greenland side of the GIUK gap.

It may not be the ideal platform but apparently it is considered a workable platform.

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And in keeping with that ...

Norway in talks to buy British helicopters to combat Russian subs

Oslo considering purchase as it grapples with Moscow’s increasingly assertive navy

www.telegraph.co.uk

Norway has discussed acquiring a fleet of British-made helicopters as the Scandinavian country seeks to bolster its defences against Russian submarines.

Oslo has held talks in recent months with the UK Ministry of Defence and manufacturer Leonardo about a potential deal to acquire several AW101 aircraft, The Telegraph understands.

The helicopters, a later version of the Merlins used by the Royal Navy, are considered to be among the best submarine-hunters in the world and are made at Leonardo’s factory in Yeovil, Somerset.

That, no doubt is part of this.

UK and Norway start Arctic defense pact talks to combat Putin

As Russian threat grows, London and Oslo look to “boost our security in the High North.”

www.politico.eu

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The Merlin is operated by the Danes as a SAR and Tactical Transport.